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twgbonehead

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JJ,

The MBV Whipped cream isn't bad, but IMHO the flavor doesn't last. The first vapes are great, but it tends to lose flavor quickly. and the last 1/2 of a tank tastes muddier. Not objectionable, but not like whipped cream, more like "generic smooth". It doesn't like being vaped at high power!

Never tried it in a mix (perhaps I should!). I'm really just getting started on this stuff.
 

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JJ,

The MBV Whipped cream isn't bad, but IMHO the flavor doesn't last. The first vapes are great, but it tends to lose flavor quickly. and the last 1/2 of a tank tastes muddier. Not objectionable, but not like whipped cream, more like "generic smooth". It doesn't like being vaped at high power!

Never tried it in a mix (perhaps I should!). I'm really just getting started on this stuff.

waiting on the whipped cream to come in dam i hate sundays lol no postal delieveries
 

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Secondly, if you are buying clearos (which, even though most kangers are technically called "glassomizers" due to the tank material being glass, are still clearomizers) I suggest you buy replaceable coil units (such as the t3, meaning you can install a new factory-made coil/atomizer-head unit; much different from rebuildable units that require some tech info to use safely and effectively) as the price of a pack of atomizer-heads (commonly and mistakenly called coils) can be purchased for close to the price of a single clearo. The cheaper, normally less effective and less long lasting "disposable" clearos which do not have replaceable heads simply stop working at some point and you have to buy a new complete unit which can end up being more expensive long term.

Thank you! I keep calling them heads, reasoning that the head is the whole unit, and the coil is the wire and wick thing. Every time I go to the B&M, he insists on telling me that those Kanger things I keep buying are coils not heads. He gets really insistent about it, until he gets me thinking that I'm the one who is wrong. You have just vindicated me!

Course the guy at the B&M also tried to insist that protected lithium ions were safer to use in my Coolfire than IMRs too. I passed on that one, and am still waiting to use my Coolfire until I can get those red IMRs they recommend on here instead of his unlabeled generic blue lithium ions. They still don't seem to make hybrid 18350s, so it looks like IMRs are the only option.
 

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I've had a possessed ecig before -- and yeah, it's scary!....<snip>

... and there I was, trying to look composed as I danced around, pulled it out of my pocket, slapped my leg (to make sure that I wasn't really on fire) <snip>

That is so messed up about them calling you to come get your son! I'm glad they were able to bring him to you (safely), but what the heck would they have done had you not been comfortable with having him there? (I'm quite familiar with schizophrenia/family issues so this really concerns me -- I'd expect a facility, or a group home, to have a procedure in place if this were the scenario).

LOL Erised, I thank you for the belly laugh as I imagine you 'trying to look composed' while dancing around and thinking you might be on fire!! The scary part isn't funny, but trying to look composed really truly is, bless your heart!

I was just grateful that I was in the room when the possessed firing happened -- not sure what the outcome might have been otherwise, but it couldn't be good!

As for my son and the care facility's move ... well, I can't blame them as he was on a trial visit at the time, not officially admitted yet. The poor manager guy was profusely apologetic, but being overruled by the big bosses due to the Insurance Gods issues. So I couldn't blame them, but I still wasn't going to go get him, no matter what. This was one of those times that the Rules were obviously making people have to select a bad decision. I said to him, good grief, in the last snowstorm, drug and grocery storeswere sheltering stranded people ... can't you "shelter" my son out of common sense, at least?

And talk about insurance issues, what would have happened if there had been a problem as the guy was driving my son home??? I don't even want to think about it, gahhh -- but ohh I would have been a tiger.

Luckily, my son's condition is officially called "negative schizophrenia" - in that he doesn't hear voices nor see things that aren't there. It's just that his higher-level thought processes are way off, despite his very high IQ. He is on his meds and stays on them, thank God. As he has spent time in hospitals over the years, and I have met other patients and learned more about the variations on this very complex disease, I am grateful that my son is not much much worse. It makes him much harder to treat, however. He doesn't fit readily into some of the more well-understood pigeonholes of this diagnosis.

He worked successfully for IBM for over 10 years, and when he got really sick with this about 3 years ago (we had to have him involuntarily committed), he was put onto disability with a functional income from that. It was the difficulty of 'pigeonholing' him that caused him to be thrown off of disability after 2 years. At which time he went completely off the skids. Insurance companies and disability-deciding professionals are not well equipped to recognize that someone who is coping well WHILE being on disability, so that their meds and living expenses are covered, are NOT going to do well if thrown off it. He could not function well enough to put his life back together after being supported in that way.

The cost of his medications, without insurance, is over $1600/month. The status of mental health care in this country is not good -- not good at all. In recent years, mental health hospitals, services, and care facilities have shut down, one after another. This has put many many people who are truly ill out on the streets. And so many of those folks do NOT have any family around, or what family they have is not in any position to shelter them. As you point out so well, depending upon a patient's situation, a schizophrenic can easily and quickly overcome the ability of any non-professional to live with or contend with them.
 

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Who in the world would be tempted by Monkey Fart as a juice flavor they want to taste. JJ, you ain't right. lol :D

New flavors coming in on monday
Dark Chocolate
Fuzzy Navel
Jungle Juice
Monkey Fart
Spearmint
Red Licorice
Fruit Stripe Gum
Vanilla Cup Cake
Whipped Cream
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Thank you! I keep calling them heads, reasoning that the head is the whole unit, and the coil is the wire and wick thing. Every time I go to the B&M, he insists on telling me that those Kanger things I keep buying are coils not heads. He gets really insistent about it, until he gets me thinking that I'm the one who is wrong. You have just vindicated me!

Course the guy at the B&M also tried to insist that protected lithium ions were safer to use in my Coolfire than IMRs too. I passed on that one, and am still waiting to use my Coolfire until I can get those red IMRs they recommend on here instead of his unlabeled generic blue lithium ions. They still don't seem to make hybrid 18350s, so it looks like IMRs are the only option.

Dang, for some reason I seem to be the argumentative one tonight.

Technically, heads are the whole thing that goes on top of the battery. Look at a post that mentions heads, and hover over the word heads.

While it might not be accurate to call the replacement parts "coils", that is the common parlance, (or at least "coil heads") i.e.:
https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10004996/1394501-x10-protank-atomizer-coil-heads-10-pack
 

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Who in the world would be tempted by Monkey Fart as a juice flavor they want to taste. JJ, you ain't right. lol :D

its strawberry/banana with PB looks tasty i like pictures and it looked good lol nevermind the name but it is funny
 

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I've vaped juice that was 4 years old ... still worked (nic was still there, and obviously it didn't kill me) -- the biggest difference seemed to be that the flavor faded. Well, except for the nasty tasting juices-- those were still just as nasty as day one!

I'm still using some juice that I've had that long too! It doesn't taste any different now than t did then.
 

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Good on the bank stuff, and I think good on the doggie. My kitty had a real raw chin that would not heal. Vet gave her lots of blood work tests and she is healthy so we think allergies? So a big shot of steroids so we are now dealing with a 12lb 'starving' kitty. Poor thing. She had us both feeding her twice a day for almost a week until we figured out she was playing mommy against daddy and getting double food. Now she is on a diet. Chin is better than it was but still a ways to go.

Hope those antibiotics knock out whatever it is. It is so hard when they aren't feeling right.

It's so hard when our fur babies are sick. I hope she feels better very soon.
 

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top,

Looking back, I COMPLETELY misread this:

cut down your post just so its not to long to scroll through..

I thought you were saying "You should cut down your post....."

Realized later you were saying "I cut down your post...."

I am a ...... And this is my wife. She's frosting a cake with a paper knife.

Edit: Guess I can't say NOROM unless I spell it backwards....
 

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Well, I'm happy to report that during the down-time with all the canceled appointments etc during snow-ice-mageddon around here, I have made huge progress into vape liquid experimentation and true joy!

I finally realized, as I pawed through my drawers of stored-and-steeping juices, that I had quite a few that ought to be ready to vape. Sooo.... I have been vaping my happy head off for days and days! And finally made a little spreadsheet/table whereupon to note my ratings, woohoo!

I've found some new ones that I cannot live without -- (all are 50pg/50vg 12 nic) - or as close to that as I can get w/ the vendor

** Good Life - Deadly Sin (as others have so rightly pointed out!)
** NLV (Nite Lite Vapor) - Gold (total deliciousness)
** Vapor Chef - PB Nomnoms (peanut butter cookie - can chain vape it with no ill effects)
** ePipe Mods Pipe Sauce - Shire Malt - tobaccoey delicious
** Vapor Girl - Pink Moo (a strawberry/banana smoothie-ish flavor)

I still can't get much of a fave with the fruit flavors, nor the fruity dessert flavors -- I dunno what's wrong with me. I'm trying juices from various vendors along the lines of Blueberry Muffin, Strawberry Cheesecake etc. Just haven't found one I like yet.

And all the straight fruit flavors, like a Pomegranate or a Strawberry or a Kiwi, etc like that, again from a variety of vendors -- all leaving me flat even with extra sweetener or flavor shots.

I'm working on those, and will give a full report if I find anything!

p.s. total agreement re: MBV Vanilla Butternut -- it can make almost any flavor good. It's YUMMY!
 
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You know that Monday is also a holiday (President's Day), right?

Sorry I just can't resist kicking someone when they're down. (Actually, I hate doing it. But I can't help myself.)

I hate all these Monday holidays that aren't really holidays unless you work at a bank or for the government. It always seems like they always fall on days when I would have gotten something if it wasn't a holiday!
 

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My getting started in vaping costs are kind of backwards from a lot of people. I spent over $100 on juices before I even got my first ecig kit. I bought a Blu diposable and then Googled ecigs and found ECF. The next 3 or so weeks was spent reading the whole info section and most of New Members posts for like forever. Asked a bunch of questions, found this thread and was kind of adopted/taken pity on by the wonderful folks here. They steered me right in my decision to get a couple of Vision Spinners 1300mah and Evods and a Joye 510 atty.

I still love my Spinners and the original ones are still alive 7 months later. I have purchased 2 1300mah Winders and I like the Spinners better; I can read the dial at night and the hand feel is better for me. I recently bought 4 more because statistically my original ones should be on death's door. Got an MVP2 back in October and love it for its battery life but find I am not nuts over the box shape. Bought a Provari Mini Christmas night and love it the most. Changing lots of batteries.

The Evods are only used occasionally and since dripping I find very reduced flavor. I love dripping on my Joye 510 attys, best flavor and as long as you do not mind being chained to a bottle of juice and atty, can't beat the flavor for the price and convenience. Nothing to adjust or change. Drip, vape and throw away when dead in a few weeks. Almost perfect. No good watching movies in the dark or driving or stealth. It is hands on, and I think a major reason I could quit cigarettes as quckly and fairly easily as I did. It kept my mind and hands busy. I think a tank or clearo would have had me struggling longer.

So a big cost for me was all the extra cartons of cigarettes I chain smoked while I did my research of several weeks to buy my first kit. I think that counts like buying several first mods for other people. And I bought well over 100 different juices in the first two or three months. So my costs were a little different, but the dollar amount is similar.

I have found several all day vape juices.
NiteLiteVapor Gold, a maply tobacco

Ahlusion - Smooth Criminal, a bakeryish tobacco; Caramel Pear Black Tea, just like its name; Boba Tea, a milky tea with hints of tapioca;
Caramel Wildwood, a caramel tobacco; Sweet Cherry Something, a Michigan cherry and vanilla milkshake; and a few others

The Plume Room - Banana Pudding; Honey Fig Tobacco; Candied Cavendish, a sweet tobacco

Alien Visions - Boba's Bounty, a complex tobacco, not sure what it is

For me, having several juices that I can vape for several days without changing flavors was and is key to my not smoking. I seem to need that consistency. I do change juices more frequently now. Now I will vape several flavors in a day. But those first few months all I vaped was NLV Gold. I refuse to count how many 130ml jugs of it I went through. And if I did not have it nothing else satisfied me and I craved a cigarette.
 

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I hope she feels better soon too. But I am starting to have nightmares about her hunger because of the steroids. It makes me sad to see her act and look like she is starving and I know she is not. Vet says a week or two and her appetite should go back to normal. I am hoping.

It's so hard when our fur babies are sick. I hope she feels better very soon.
 
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