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I use so cheap b&m brand. I only tried to clean it once....and broke it lol. It's called an aspire bdc but it's not the one that comes up with Google search. Go figure
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That's unfortunate. When I dry burn my coils they work and taste like new. Have you tried dry burning with a much lower voltage? It takes longer, but is less likely to pop the coils. I've had coils last me well over a month.
I haven't yet. I will try that tom ! This coil is only a few days old but already catching the sugar. I like zeus but it seems they use suraclose or whatever Lol and it gunks my coils quick
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Aspire has at least 5-6 different products going right now, the least expensive, is a bottom coil clear tube that comes in colors, that is the type I have now. I only soak mine is vodka overnight, rinse well and let dry, refill, I do not dry burn and mine last a long time as well. I am afraid to pop the coil. the most important thing is to clean them whichever way you choose, once per week.
It's a step up from a generic ce5. BDC is bottom dual coil, bottom fed and dual coil. I got a few of them but prefer the iclear16 because they just work better for me. It's the same general shape, about the same price but 2.3 ohm coils instead of the Aspire 1.8 ohm coils
To clean mine I just get a bowl of very warm water (some suggest vodka) , put the whole thing in it, let it sit a couple minutes, take it out and steep it like a tea bag a bunch of times. Remove and shake excess water out. I then let it dry for a couple of hours, removing the inhale tip, put it back on, do a dry burn by treating it as if it has juice for a couple of puffs, then remove it, fill it with juice, put the inhale tip back on, roll it around on its side for about a minute then put it back on the battery and do a draw without touching the battery button to do what they told me in the shop would help prime the wicks. I like to keep my setups on their side so using wicked clearomizers works just fine for me. Being on their side helps keep the wicks soaked and when vaping it helps keep them soaked by holding it horizontally, like a cigarette, instead of vertically, like a ..... By vaping like a cigarette I can get just about every drop caped before needing to refill without getting the yuk taste of dry hits.
Hope that helps.
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For any newcomers, here's my history. Sort of a "Reader's Digest" of my time on ECF, which started on March 31. Quitting with vaping was easy, or so I thought. I apologize for the length, but it's been a long haul for me.
I started vaping at the end of March last year. Since then, it has been a struggle:
First I thought it was a depression/chemical imbalance thing that I kept really NEEDING to smoke.
I was able to get a handle on it for a while, then some major stress affected my ability to keep off them:
Then I started having what I thought were allergic reactions of some kind:
After a while, I was able to quit again, but never really discovered what was causing the reactions. I was able to keep them at bay by rotating juice, ALOT, and taking Benadryl.
I started vaping at the end of March last year. Since then, it has been a struggle:
First I thought it was a depression/chemical imbalance thing that I kept really NEEDING to smoke.
I was able to get a handle on it for a while, then some major stress affected my ability to keep off them:
Then I started having what I thought were allergic reactions of some kind:
After a while, I was able to quit again, but never really discovered what was causing the reactions. I was able to keep them at bay by rotating juice, ALOT, and taking Benadryl.
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Thanks, Alisa. It was like reliving your progression all over again. You were really down and out there for a while, and it's so wonderful that you were able to figure it out and get the relief you needed. Yours was a very tough journey, but you proved to be tougher. Thanks for sharing with all the newcomers and reminding us how far you've come.
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Thanks, Alisa. It was like reliving your progression all over again. You were really down and out there for a while, and it's so wonderful that you were able to figure it out and get the relief you needed. Yours was a very tough journey, but you proved to be tougher. Thanks for sharing with all the newcomers and reminding us how far you've come.
Bravo!!!
Going through and finding all those posts was really like a life review. I didn't realize how many people have come and gone, I hope the ones who left have reached their goal--
It was kind of hard to relive that. You guys truly are very awesome people!!
Marlboro man died, complications COPD, very sad
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These attys I gave the link for are disposable 510 attys. No building, no dry burning if you do not want to, no soaking in vodka. All I do is blow out the atty from the connector end into a paper towel when I change flavors or every couple of days. If you are switching to a similar or compatible flavor, just do it. Sometimes I will vape a little straight vg to clear the atty and my palate. Put them away with a drop of vg in them; do not store dry. No muss, no fuss. When they die I toss it in the garbage. Ta Da! Can't do it cheaper than $2 each for name brand. Mr.Mann turned me on to these when I first started vaping. Several of the long time drippers use these. They are talked about a lot in that thread I gave the link to.
Mark, your mountain bike story read like a nail biter novel. Glad you were able to get through that in one piece. And it does show that you have the fortitude to follow through to success in your undertakings. Good for you. You will put down the cigarettes for good when the time is right. Some people have a more difficult path to follow than others. There is more involved in quitting smoking than just saying no and starting to vape.
Alisa, you have had quite a ride on your journey. It is kind of scary going back and reading it all, it is almost like reliving it. As I sit here typing it seems so long ago. Last night when I was going through my posts I was remembering conversations we had that seem like yesterday. I am still trying to select the right posts to copy over. That is difficult for me since I am so prolific. I think I am going to just put a few pieces here and there and maybe copy a particularly decent rant over if the topic comes up in discussion. Still thinking on it.
You really have come a long way. I am so very happy to see that you have been able to find a way that lets you vape more comfortably. I think when you go through a real hard time finding how to make it work for you, you appreciate it more. I know I do.
That period I had with the reaction to the custard and cinnamon juices was a scary nightmare for me that lasted over two weeks. I do not remember if I ever mentioned that my tastebuds were still screwed up until about a month or so ago. I am now able to taste more subtle flavors again. Eating food was fine, but vaping was a mess for me for a long time. I still get the equivalent of a bad case of Vaper's Tongue every couple of weeks but the frequency is getting less often now.
You really have come a long way. I am so very happy to see that you have been able to find a way that lets you vape more comfortably. I think when you go through a real hard time finding how to make it work for you, you appreciate it more. I know I do.
That period I had with the reaction to the custard and cinnamon juices was a scary nightmare for me that lasted over two weeks. I do not remember if I ever mentioned that my tastebuds were still screwed up until about a month or so ago. I am now able to taste more subtle flavors again. Eating food was fine, but vaping was a mess for me for a long time. I still get the equivalent of a bad case of Vaper's Tongue every couple of weeks but the frequency is getting less often now.
I went back through my posts and this is my vaping journey. I joined ECF the first week of March, 2013 but continued to smoke for another 4 months. I quit smoking exactly 1 month after joining this thread.
6/2/2013
I've spent several days reading each and every post in this thread and I see myself in most of them. It's nice to know I'm not the only one here that didn't quit "accidentally". I don't post a lot in the forum, probably because I feel like a fraud. I've been a smoker for 42 years and worked my way up to a 3-4 pad habit. Each time I tried (and failed) to quit I would end up smoking more than when I tried to quit. I guess I was making up for all the smokes I'd missed.
This is my third time trying ecigs since 2009. The first time, I used a cigalike and went a week with no cigs before gradually working my way back to smoking only. The second time, the Ego was all the rage, and I spent too much money on juice trying to find one I enjoyed enough to keep me off cigarettes. No luck.
Finally, after being laid off for 2 years and smoking around 4 packs a day of roll-your-own almost non-stop, I was wheezing like crazy and coughing up nasty stuff. I decided to try ecigs again, but all my juice had turned nasty. Again I had to spend too much money to get back into it, but with more determination than I had previously.
I have cut down quite a bit, going from 3+ packs a day to 1, so that's a win. I can go for hours at home just using my PV, but at work I'm surrounded by smokers and find myself mostly smoking there. After smoking half a pack at work, it's hard to go back to just my PV once I get home and I end up smoking the rest of the pack at home along with vaping almost constantly.
I now have 2 mods and more juice that still isn't cutting it. I am also of the mindset that each new purchase and each new juice order will be just what I need to stop smoking. Yeah, right.
Good news, though. I have yet another mod and juice order on the way and I'm sure this time I'm gonna quit for sure! (but don't hold your breath. I know I won't) Thanks for listening.
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I work in a small group home for physically and mentally disabled adults. There's a lot of down time and we can smoke whenever we want to just by stepping out the side door. Out of a total of 10 staff, only 2 are non-smokers, and I rarely, if ever, work with them since they're on a different shift. I seem to smoke more out of habit than actual craving anyway.
It's great to see a thread with people who understand how hard it is to quit, even with the help of vaping. I could never have cut down as much as I have without it. Lord knows I've tried enough times over the years.
6/10/2013
I started having serious juice issues.
I seem to be smoking more and more every day. I'm trying to vape as much as possible, but I simply can't find a juice flavor that makes me want to do it as much as I want to. I'm sick of the juices I have. They seem to be getting more and more tasteless every day, but not in a vapor's tongue kind of way.
I've tried mixing some flavors and they taste even worse. I've ordered more juice, but each order has been disappointing so far. I've had some steeping for 11 days now and it still tastes awful. I got some more today, but obviously it needs to steep as well.
At this rate I'll have smoked at least a pack and a half by tonight, maybe more.
I think I've had enough cheese with my 'whine'.
6/13/2013
I've been rolling my own for the last 7 or 8 years. Really cheap....around $1 a pack, so I'm spending a lot more on vaping. I know part of the problem is I have my tobacco, tubes and rolling machine an arm's length away, so I can roll one, or 100, anytime I want. I don't even have to go to the store to buy a pack.
I'm still way too nervous to go to work without a pack of smokes with me, and I end up smoking at work instead of vaping. I think it's mostly out of habit, and seeing my co-workers smoking, too.
The good part is that I mostly vape at home, so I've gone down from 3+ PAD to 1+. That's a big difference, but not nearly what I'd hoped for. I'm soooo weak!
6/14/2013
I keep my PV in the glass on my desk that I used to keep my cigarettes in so I'm comfortable using it mostly during the day where I'm almost always on my computer. My biggest problem is at work and I always take a full pack along with me even though I usually only smoke half of it. The thought of going to work without cigarettes and forcing myself to only vape scares the crap outta me! I've thought about only taking a few, but even that panics me. I can smoke as much as I want while there, but once I get there I can't leave to get any even if I was desperate.
I'm thinking about gradually taking fewer and fewer with me, forcing me to vape more. But not tonight. I have to work a double and won't get off til 7am tomorrow.
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I've been thinking that maybe using an automatic cigalike at work might be a way to get the feel of a real cigarette in the place where I'm more conditioned to that particular habit. I love my Zmax telescope and use it a lot at home. It would seem kind of like a downgrade from where I am, but it might help with making it feel more like I'm smoking a real cigarette. I would still use my APV at home but I hesitate to spend even more money than I have already. Has anyone tried this?
Alisa suggested I try an eRoll.
6/18/2013
Hello everyone and welcome to the thread, Shari! I just got home from 2 days of jury duty on a case involving controlled drugs and guns...Yikes! It was interesting to say the least.
I couldn't take my cell phone or PV with me (they don't allow batteries inside the courthouse), or even a lighter for real cigs. We got pretty regular breaks and they even provided lighters to smokers when they went out for a break. Needless to say, I've been smoking instead of vaping mostly for the last 2 days.
I must say it's hard to get back into the vaping habit once you've been only smoking all day. But tonight I'm getting back on the wagon and planning to do the vaping thing as much as possible. I got a couple of new juices, but of course they need to steep.
6/21/2013
I love my APVs, but I'm seriously considering getting an eRoll for work where I smoke the most. I seem to need the real cig feeling of holding it between my fingers and not having to push a button to get a hit. I'm not looking forward to shelling out more money on this, but who knows, it just might help. And boy, I need all the help I can get.
6/24/2013
Worse juice issues.
I'm having fun trying out my newest juice purchases. They've been steeping for between 2 weeks and 1 month so far. The problem is I can't decide which one to go with. It's a toss up between Sweaty Socks, Smelly Underwear and Soap. Decisions, decisions.
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I'm currently smoking only my 4th cigarette of the day, since 9:30am. It's the best I've done in a long while, especially considering my juices really suck today. (Sweaty Socks is starting to grow on me, but Soap is still yuck)
6/27/2013
I smoked 8 cigs at work tonight and 2 more since I got home. I'm on a roll.
6/29/2013
I fell off the vaping wagon again working my double shift yesterday. I smoked nearly a pack while still vaping. I think I'm more convinced that I need the tactile experience of a cigalike at work. I'm pretty sure I'll be ordering an eRoll very soon, but I'm afraid if even that doesn't work I'll be deemed a lost cause for sure.
I know I can do it, as evidenced by the fact that I only had 3 smokes at work the day before without a problem. For me, it seems the mindset going in has much to do with how much I smoke. I must continuously tell myself that I don't really need that cigarette to keep me from smoking it. I don't really "crave" the cig, but if I don't nag myself, I simply do it. Sometimes I'm just too bored or too tired to keep up that internal dialogue.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
I ordered my eRoll that night.
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7/3/2013
I spent 45 minutes each way driving to my S/O's doctor appointment this morning, 2 solid hours in the waiting room and got home 1/2 hour before I had to be at work. We stopped to get my juice vapemail and lo and behold, my eRoll had arrived. I didn't have time to charge it or anything, so I took the whole kit and kaboodle to work with me to set it up. It's even smaller than I thought it would be...and I love it!
Remember I said this morning that I hadn't had a cigarette since those 4 I had yesterday morning? Well.............I made through the long drive, the doctor's office wait and 8 hours of work without a single cigarette!!!!!
I'm so proud of myself! Whenever my co-worker stepped out for a smoke I grabbed my eRoll and joined her. I could actually smell her smoke. And when I got home and came inside, I could smell the stale smoke smell in the house. I've never noticed it before. The strange part is that I haven't really had any serious cravings. I even took cigs to work with me, but didn't have the irresistible urge to smoke one. I don't know how long it'll last, since I'm weak on willpower when it comes to smoking, but I'm enjoying it for now.
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Thank you, Alisa! I'm sure my eRoll helped tremendously. I normally smoke 10 cigarettes just at work. The eRoll seems to help with the feeling that you're missing with a large APV and having to push a button to vape. You can hold it between your fingers like a cigarette, even vape it hands free if need be, and all without pushing a button!
I haven't had a cigarette since. I've also found a few juices that I actually like! The wonderful caring people in this thread gave me the encouragement and support I needed to be able to accomplish what I'd been unable to do for many years. They could never know how much I appreciate all of them.
6/2/2013
I've spent several days reading each and every post in this thread and I see myself in most of them. It's nice to know I'm not the only one here that didn't quit "accidentally". I don't post a lot in the forum, probably because I feel like a fraud. I've been a smoker for 42 years and worked my way up to a 3-4 pad habit. Each time I tried (and failed) to quit I would end up smoking more than when I tried to quit. I guess I was making up for all the smokes I'd missed.
This is my third time trying ecigs since 2009. The first time, I used a cigalike and went a week with no cigs before gradually working my way back to smoking only. The second time, the Ego was all the rage, and I spent too much money on juice trying to find one I enjoyed enough to keep me off cigarettes. No luck.
Finally, after being laid off for 2 years and smoking around 4 packs a day of roll-your-own almost non-stop, I was wheezing like crazy and coughing up nasty stuff. I decided to try ecigs again, but all my juice had turned nasty. Again I had to spend too much money to get back into it, but with more determination than I had previously.
I have cut down quite a bit, going from 3+ packs a day to 1, so that's a win. I can go for hours at home just using my PV, but at work I'm surrounded by smokers and find myself mostly smoking there. After smoking half a pack at work, it's hard to go back to just my PV once I get home and I end up smoking the rest of the pack at home along with vaping almost constantly.
I now have 2 mods and more juice that still isn't cutting it. I am also of the mindset that each new purchase and each new juice order will be just what I need to stop smoking. Yeah, right.
Good news, though. I have yet another mod and juice order on the way and I'm sure this time I'm gonna quit for sure! (but don't hold your breath. I know I won't) Thanks for listening.
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I work in a small group home for physically and mentally disabled adults. There's a lot of down time and we can smoke whenever we want to just by stepping out the side door. Out of a total of 10 staff, only 2 are non-smokers, and I rarely, if ever, work with them since they're on a different shift. I seem to smoke more out of habit than actual craving anyway.
It's great to see a thread with people who understand how hard it is to quit, even with the help of vaping. I could never have cut down as much as I have without it. Lord knows I've tried enough times over the years.
6/10/2013
I started having serious juice issues.
I seem to be smoking more and more every day. I'm trying to vape as much as possible, but I simply can't find a juice flavor that makes me want to do it as much as I want to. I'm sick of the juices I have. They seem to be getting more and more tasteless every day, but not in a vapor's tongue kind of way.
I've tried mixing some flavors and they taste even worse. I've ordered more juice, but each order has been disappointing so far. I've had some steeping for 11 days now and it still tastes awful. I got some more today, but obviously it needs to steep as well.
At this rate I'll have smoked at least a pack and a half by tonight, maybe more.
I think I've had enough cheese with my 'whine'.
6/13/2013
I've been rolling my own for the last 7 or 8 years. Really cheap....around $1 a pack, so I'm spending a lot more on vaping. I know part of the problem is I have my tobacco, tubes and rolling machine an arm's length away, so I can roll one, or 100, anytime I want. I don't even have to go to the store to buy a pack.
I'm still way too nervous to go to work without a pack of smokes with me, and I end up smoking at work instead of vaping. I think it's mostly out of habit, and seeing my co-workers smoking, too.
The good part is that I mostly vape at home, so I've gone down from 3+ PAD to 1+. That's a big difference, but not nearly what I'd hoped for. I'm soooo weak!
6/14/2013
I keep my PV in the glass on my desk that I used to keep my cigarettes in so I'm comfortable using it mostly during the day where I'm almost always on my computer. My biggest problem is at work and I always take a full pack along with me even though I usually only smoke half of it. The thought of going to work without cigarettes and forcing myself to only vape scares the crap outta me! I've thought about only taking a few, but even that panics me. I can smoke as much as I want while there, but once I get there I can't leave to get any even if I was desperate.
I'm thinking about gradually taking fewer and fewer with me, forcing me to vape more. But not tonight. I have to work a double and won't get off til 7am tomorrow.
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I've been thinking that maybe using an automatic cigalike at work might be a way to get the feel of a real cigarette in the place where I'm more conditioned to that particular habit. I love my Zmax telescope and use it a lot at home. It would seem kind of like a downgrade from where I am, but it might help with making it feel more like I'm smoking a real cigarette. I would still use my APV at home but I hesitate to spend even more money than I have already. Has anyone tried this?
Alisa suggested I try an eRoll.
6/18/2013
Hello everyone and welcome to the thread, Shari! I just got home from 2 days of jury duty on a case involving controlled drugs and guns...Yikes! It was interesting to say the least.
I couldn't take my cell phone or PV with me (they don't allow batteries inside the courthouse), or even a lighter for real cigs. We got pretty regular breaks and they even provided lighters to smokers when they went out for a break. Needless to say, I've been smoking instead of vaping mostly for the last 2 days.
I must say it's hard to get back into the vaping habit once you've been only smoking all day. But tonight I'm getting back on the wagon and planning to do the vaping thing as much as possible. I got a couple of new juices, but of course they need to steep.
6/21/2013
I love my APVs, but I'm seriously considering getting an eRoll for work where I smoke the most. I seem to need the real cig feeling of holding it between my fingers and not having to push a button to get a hit. I'm not looking forward to shelling out more money on this, but who knows, it just might help. And boy, I need all the help I can get.
6/24/2013
Worse juice issues.
I'm having fun trying out my newest juice purchases. They've been steeping for between 2 weeks and 1 month so far. The problem is I can't decide which one to go with. It's a toss up between Sweaty Socks, Smelly Underwear and Soap. Decisions, decisions.
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I'm currently smoking only my 4th cigarette of the day, since 9:30am. It's the best I've done in a long while, especially considering my juices really suck today. (Sweaty Socks is starting to grow on me, but Soap is still yuck)
6/27/2013
I smoked 8 cigs at work tonight and 2 more since I got home. I'm on a roll.
6/29/2013
I fell off the vaping wagon again working my double shift yesterday. I smoked nearly a pack while still vaping. I think I'm more convinced that I need the tactile experience of a cigalike at work. I'm pretty sure I'll be ordering an eRoll very soon, but I'm afraid if even that doesn't work I'll be deemed a lost cause for sure.
I know I can do it, as evidenced by the fact that I only had 3 smokes at work the day before without a problem. For me, it seems the mindset going in has much to do with how much I smoke. I must continuously tell myself that I don't really need that cigarette to keep me from smoking it. I don't really "crave" the cig, but if I don't nag myself, I simply do it. Sometimes I'm just too bored or too tired to keep up that internal dialogue.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
I ordered my eRoll that night.
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7/3/2013
I spent 45 minutes each way driving to my S/O's doctor appointment this morning, 2 solid hours in the waiting room and got home 1/2 hour before I had to be at work. We stopped to get my juice vapemail and lo and behold, my eRoll had arrived. I didn't have time to charge it or anything, so I took the whole kit and kaboodle to work with me to set it up. It's even smaller than I thought it would be...and I love it!
Remember I said this morning that I hadn't had a cigarette since those 4 I had yesterday morning? Well.............I made through the long drive, the doctor's office wait and 8 hours of work without a single cigarette!!!!!
I'm so proud of myself! Whenever my co-worker stepped out for a smoke I grabbed my eRoll and joined her. I could actually smell her smoke. And when I got home and came inside, I could smell the stale smoke smell in the house. I've never noticed it before. The strange part is that I haven't really had any serious cravings. I even took cigs to work with me, but didn't have the irresistible urge to smoke one. I don't know how long it'll last, since I'm weak on willpower when it comes to smoking, but I'm enjoying it for now.
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Thank you, Alisa! I'm sure my eRoll helped tremendously. I normally smoke 10 cigarettes just at work. The eRoll seems to help with the feeling that you're missing with a large APV and having to push a button to vape. You can hold it between your fingers like a cigarette, even vape it hands free if need be, and all without pushing a button!
I haven't had a cigarette since. I've also found a few juices that I actually like! The wonderful caring people in this thread gave me the encouragement and support I needed to be able to accomplish what I'd been unable to do for many years. They could never know how much I appreciate all of them.
I've noticed if I have a cigarette every now and then my throat oddly feels better long enough to smoke all day. But the taste is awful haha. I literally am gagging it down
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