SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL)

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Is the latest upgrade 2.23 my current update? I don't want to take the risk of corrupting my YiHi by connecting to PC
As far as I know that is the latest it is a test firmware upgrade and apparently they must have it corrected in the ML no one really knows because they are not going to be out till the 19th. I don't think they will give it to us. We were just guinea pigs. So I just plug along at 260-290F in NI200 mode with Ti wire. Just checked on the website and that is the latest test firmware upgrade. I check pretty much daily hoping.
 
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Have you tried your Ti on any other Temp Limiting devices 2legs? I've found the Ti wire I received from Unkamen needs to run at the same or very similar 540F - 560F on the dna 200 as well as the SXmini m, where my Ni200 is usually in the low to mid 400's. I originally thought this to be inconsistency in the algorithm of the SXmini m between Ti and Ni200 but now I'm leaning more toward it being something to do with the wire. Two different devices needing much higher temp to get a similar experience with Ti as Ni200 doesn't make sense for it to be in the software of two different devices to me. That potentially explains why some are running Ti with very similar temps as they did with Ni200 while others aren't.
 
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started making a humming noise when used. I am going to keep using it. I hope it does not explode. meanwhile looking for something else. probably vapor flask sx. don't get me wrong. it lasted plenty. no appliance lasts indefinitely. I have used it a ton. in fact it still works but I may be asking for trouble now. don't really know what other high end mods there are at this point. do not want dna200 because 18650 lasts me 10 minutes! hey, at least I am not smoking. not sure what to get to replace it. not another sxm because of the paint right now. there are plenty of mods but the big feature t me is preheat. only on 350j/2 and dna200 afaik.
 

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    started making a humming noise when used. I am going to keep using it. I hope it does not explode. meanwhile looking for something else. probably vapor flask sx. don't get me wrong. it lasted plenty. no appliance lasts indefinitely. I have used it a ton. in fact it still works but I may be asking for trouble now. don't really know what other high end mods there are at this point. do not want dna200 because 18650 lasts me 10 minutes! hey, at least I am not smoking. not sure what to get to replace it. not another sxm because of the paint right now. there are plenty of mods but the big feature t me is preheat. only on 350j/2 and dna200 afaik.

    10 minutes? Seriously? I'd think your battery is end of life if it can only hold 10min of charge.

    The iStick TC40 will fire at its full 40W until the set point is reached. 2600mAh and I doubt that you'll be able to drain its internal battery from full charge to empty in a mere 10min.
     

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    Have you tried your Ti on any other Temp Limiting devices 2legs? I've found the Ti wire I received from Unkamen needs to run at the same or very similar 540F - 560F on the DNA 200 as well as the SXmini m, where my Ni200 is usually in the low to mid 400's. I originally thought this to be inconsistency in the algorithm of the SXmini m between Ti and Ni200 but now I'm leaning more toward it being something to do with the wire. Two different devices needing much higher temp to get a similar experience with Ti as Ni200 doesn't make sense for it to be in the software of two different devices to me. That potentially explains why some are running Ti with very similar temps as they did with Ni200 while others aren't.
    Well Vlad I don't have any other TC devices but what I notice while I use the NI200 mode with the Ti is the Unk vapes good for me at 260-265F while the CW takes about 270-290F I vape the nickel at 390 I like a little cooler vape.
     

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    Have you tried your Ti on any other Temp Limiting devices 2legs? I've found the Ti wire I received from Unkamen needs to run at the same or very similar 540F - 560F on the DNA 200 as well as the SXmini m, where my Ni200 is usually in the low to mid 400's. I originally thought this to be inconsistency in the algorithm of the SXmini m between Ti and Ni200 but now I'm leaning more toward it being something to do with the wire. Two different devices needing much higher temp to get a similar experience with Ti as Ni200 doesn't make sense for it to be in the software of two different devices to me. That potentially explains why some are running Ti with very similar temps as they did with Ni200 while others aren't.

    Thanks for posting this. I thought I was going crazy! I have been experiencing the same thing with the SX Mini M, DNA200, Evic VT, IPV D4, and Koopor Mini. I vape NI at 430-450F but have to go to 480-520F with TI. Even weirder is that I need higher temps with the Unk TI than I do with the Crazy Wire from the UK. None of the mods I have with TI mode seem "accurate" as far as the temp.

    I had a WTF moment when I got the DNA200 loaded up with the TI settings from steamengine and low and behold it was basically just like the SX Mini in TI mode needing a much higher temp! I agree it is the wire or some other variable.

    Still like TI better even if the set temp is higher that what it is probably producing.
     

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    Thanks for posting this. I thought I was going crazy! I have been experiencing the same thing with the SX Mini M, DNA200, Evic VT, IPV D4, and Koopor Mini. I vape NI at 430-450F but have to go to 480-520F with TI. Even weirder is that I need higher temps with the Unk TI than I do with the Crazy Wire from the UK. None of the mods I have with TI mode seem "accurate" as far as the temp.

    I had a ... moment when I got the DNA200 loaded up with the TI settings from steamengine and low and behold it was basically just like the SX Mini in TI mode needing a much higher temp! I agree it is the wire or some other variable.

    Still like TI better even if the set temp is higher that what it is probably producing.

    I'm trying SS now without much success other than the pre-built coils that come with the Uwell Crown. Love the pre-builts coils, but with my builds on the RBA deck I haven't been able to build anything that does't feel like it's turning on and off during the draw, power feels very erratic to me.
     
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    I'm trying SS now without much success other than the pre-built coils that come with the Uwell Crown. Love the pre-builts coils, but with my builds on the RBA deck I haven't been able to build anything that does't feel like it's turning on and off during the draw, power feels very erratic to me.
    What mode are you running the SS in


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    yeah. either my batteries are gone or the sx mini is. I have used these batteries with the sx mini for a very long time. something is gone. I am looking for a new mod now. may get a custom mod and just use kanthal. I am not really sure about tc anymore. does nothing special for me. never got a dry hit with kanthal. I see all the issues others are having too. oddly I have this triton coil way higher joules than recommended to get a good vape. at 400f. tc is strange to say the least. I think it is just not perfected yet. in the future I am sure we wil see advancements. or tc disappears altogether. I just need a new mod. not really the fault of yihi other than the paint. I used it up already. like I said no appliance lasts forever. if you use a blowdryer it will eventually diminish in heat and speed for instance. a fridge will get warmer etc. you guys have to realize how much use I got out of this. I am not upset with yihi in the least. I am just not sure I want the ml if they have not fixed the paint. vapor shark said they fixed the finish too. yeah right. they need to anodize these things period.
     

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    I very much doubt TC will disappear.

    There are many people out there without issues using TC, me included.

    For stealthvape's Ti :

    Dna 200 = 0.0035 tcr = 235C = perfect

    Dna 40 = ni curve = 180C-185C = perfect

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    What mode are you running the SS in


    Sent from my iPhone

    Well I'm not presently. All my devices have Ni200 or Ti in them currently. But the Uwell Crown comes with SS prebuilt coils which can be run in either Power mode or in Temp mode if the device has a TCR loaded for it.
     
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    I very much doubt TC will disappear.

    There are many people out there without issues using TC, me included.

    For stealthvape's Ti :

    Dna 200 = 0.0035 tcr = 235C = perfect

    Dna 40 = ni curve = 180C-185C = perfect

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    Tony- Awesome help! I just plugged in a TCR of .0035 with the default curve instead of the one from Steam Engine, and voila....450F on TI seems spot on compared to NI at the same temp. Very new to DNA200 but this is the first thing that really impressed me about it!

    I hope YIHI doens't abbandon updates for the SX350J especially the with the number of other modders using them now. Hopefully we could see a TCR adjustment which seems much more useful than modes. One can wish ;)
     
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    Tony- Awesome help! I just plugged in a TCR of .0035 with the default curve instead of the one from Steam Engine, and voila....450F on TI seems spot on compared to NI at the same temp. Very new to DNA200 but this is the first thing that really impressed me about it!

    I hope YIHI doens't abbandon updates for the SX350J especially the with the number of other modders using them now. Hopefully we could see a TCR adjustment which seems much more useful than modes. One can wish ;)

    While YiHi made a decent chip+mod earlier this year however at this point in time some months later the market has moved/changed and other players are making some nice advances. Case in point: Friday a newfangled "Apollo Reliant" was in my mailbox, $100, TCR adjustment, VW/TC and "Mech" modes. It appears to have an anodized aluminum body, nice large an bright display AND has the temperature control on the up/down buttons rather than being buried in a sub-menu.

    I still like my SXminiM for what it is however with others supporting multiple (or almost any) wire types at 1/2 the cost YiHi really needs to step up their game to remain competitive.
     
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    While YiHi made a decent chip+mod earlier this year however at this point in time some months later the market has moved/changed and other players are making some nice advances. Case in point: Friday a newfangled "Apollo Reliant" was in my mailbox, $100, TCR adjustment, VW/TC and "Mech" modes. It appears to have an anodized aluminum body, nice large an bright display AND has the temperature control on the up/down buttons rather than being buried in a sub-menu.

    I still like my SXminiM for what it is however with others supporting multiple (or almost any) wire types at 1/2 the cost YiHi really needs to step up their game to remain competitive.

    I agree there are more and more devices coming out with more support for other coil materials but it's yet to bee seen how accurate, durable, consistent, reliable they are etc.. SXmini m has been top of the list for 6-7 months now that in itself is remarkable in my mind in this fast changing market. I'm fairly certain in a year or two time these devices will be all but forgotten as I'm certain the manufactures are always working on the next best thing.

    And looking at the device you referenced it's a 60 watt max where the SXmini m is 150 watt max so comparing the two at 1/2 the cost would be about right in my book provided it had all the features as the SX and was as accurate and reliable etc..
     

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    I agree there are more and more devices coming out with more support for other coil materials but it's yet to bee seen how accurate, durable, consistent, reliable they are etc..

    This is it in a nutshell. I am a gear buyer anyhow but I have spent way too much money on trying every TC device that sounded positive. Most of them DO NOT do temp control properly at all, even many models from the best known names in vaping. I'm lucky that my first temp control mod was a SX Mini so I learned how good it could be.

    I see so many people writing that they don't like temp control or don't see the advantages and almost everytime it turns out that they're using a mod that advertises TC but can't pull it off accurately.

    I got a VS DNA200 a couple of weeks ago and am cautiously optimistic. It's giving me consistently good hits but it took a fair amount of time in escribe playing with the settings. One interesting thing is that the temp and wattage are way different from any of my SX Minis. I don't have access to accurate test equipment so I'm curious as to whether Yihi or Evolv is the accurate one.
     
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    And looking at the device you referenced it's a 60 watt max where the SXmini m is 150 watt max so comparing the two at 1/2 the cost would be about right in my book provided it had all the features as the SX and was as accurate and reliable etc..

    The SXminiM is only 150W *IF* a very ugly and obnoxious 2nd 18650 is added to the bottom of the unit.

    (forgetting of course a P4U IPV4S can do 150W out of the box without a unsightly accessory and at a fraction of the cost)

    Sadly I hate to report that my SXminiM decided this AM it would divide all resistances by 100 and therefore not fire anymore. (sigh) I think I bought it in May or June (can't recall). On the other hand the PAINT looks just like it did brand new out of the box - not a chip/scratch or flaw in it.

    Edit: it appears it lasted an almost perfect 3mos, I just emailed the vendor I purchased it from and will see if they will remedy the situation. I may own a dozen or more mods but the SX surely is one of my favorites.

    And the other half wondered why I have so many mods - "backups" I tell her. ;)
     
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    Tony- Awesome help! I just plugged in a TCR of .0035 with the default curve instead of the one from Steam Engine, and voila....450F on TI seems spot on compared to NI at the same temp. Very new to DNA200 but this is the first thing that really impressed me about it!

    I hope YIHI doens't abbandon updates for the SX350J especially the with the number of other modders using them now. Hopefully we could see a TCR adjustment which seems much more useful than modes. One can wish ;)

    Kind of bizarre, I played around a bit with the TCR and had to go to .0047 to get a similar vape at 450F. When using .0035 TCR was only slightly, very slightly less anemic than the using steam engine's table at 450F. Which is correct I have no idea but I have to assume the .0035 is closer to what it should be since it's almost exactly the same as what steam engines curve was.
     

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    I think that the Dani Extreme V2 is going to be something. It is not available in the US but I think it is in Europe and UK not sure about that. Have seen some videos on it. The one thing I don't like about it is it is a one button tube type mod. Check it out on You Tube and what they have to say on this thread.https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...herm-nife30-coefficient-of-resistance.676506/ It seems as though it is pretty accurate with any wire there is available. Oh and also the Dicodes 2380. The 2380 is available at 230 pounds UK Store. It ain't cheap. The Extreme V2 is not available yet but I think the 2380 does everything the other does. That's 350 bucks.
     
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