TC beyond Ni200: Nickel Purity, Dicodes; Ti, SS, Resistherm NiFe30; Coefficient of Resistance

[Quantum Mech]

And therein lays my mistake. I was trying to pulse it in TC mode. You know, just enough to know if I had hot spots, my coils would work.

So now i see I pulse in power/wattage mode. Yes, that might get a better reaction than what I was doing it in. lol
debate - not a good idea to pulse at all? I'd like to know how they ensure their coils work perfectly?

thanks - yes I understand temp limits - mistake was pulsing in SS on lowest TC/Wattage. This is not dna im using - might partly be the problem, cheap mod. Thx

I always poke my wire in the mains socket to get that even glow prior to wrapping

240vac L - N lights them up a treat

 

[BigEgo]

Just ordered me a cheap Chinese digital thermometer with a type K thermocouple. Now, I can do my own temp testing. Anyone else have a thermocouple you use for this?

 

[GeorgeS]

Just ordered me a cheap Chinese digital thermometer with a type K thermocouple. Now, I can do my own temp testing. Anyone else have a thermocouple you use for this?

Personally I go all ghetto and use both the water and dry cotton tests. I figure two data points are enough to decide if a TCR value is good enough for the wire type I'm using.

 

[cigatron]

I always poke my wire in the mains socket to get that even glow prior to wrapping

240vac L - N lights them up a treat

LMAO. It only properly oxidizes the wire when you do it bare handed though.

 

[cigatron]

OBS Crius with 25g NiFe52 alloy 2.9mm Duals. TCR .0040. Wicked with rayon, of course. apparently the Crius has about .02 static res as SE shows .07 ohms for this build.

 

[pevinsghost]

And therein lays my mistake. I was trying to pulse it in TC mode. You know, just enough to know if I had hot spots, my coils would work.

So now i see I pulse in power/wattage mode. Yes, that might get a better reaction than what I was doing it in. lol
debate - not a good idea to pulse at all? I'd like to know how they ensure their coils work perfectly?

thanks - yes I understand temp limits - mistake was pulsing in SS on lowest TC/Wattage. This is not DNA im using - might partly be the problem, cheap mod. Thx

You can get oxidation and enough heat to manipulate coils at temps the mods will do in tc mode, but they won't glow and would take longer.

There's no studies on if glowing coils produce anything dangerous, so it's glow at your own risk. I'll venture a guess that it's less harmful than sucking tar sticks though.

 

[Gazoo2You]

430 SS Only found at Unkamen? Never noticed it before-selling everywhere and Im blind or only there?

 

[aldenf]

430 SS Only found at Unkamen? Never noticed it before-selling everywhere and Im blind or only there?

That's the only SS430 vendor here in the States that I'm aware of. Been looking for some SS410 too. It seems that U.S. vape vendors are not jumping on the wire bandwagon. Not sure why but perhaps the "deeming" is affecting their willingness to invest in stock? A U.S. vendor for NiFe would be nice too...

 

[cigatron]

That's the only SS430 vendor here in the States that I'm aware of. Been looking for some SS410 too. It seems that U.S. vape vendors are not jumping on the wire bandwagon. Not sure why but perhaps the "deeming" is affecting their willingness to invest in stock? A U.S. vendor for NiFe would be nice too...

That would be nice. @Landman gave me some 25g 430ss and 25g NiFe wire in trade for some juice, otherwise I'd still be vaping Ti; not that there's anything wrong with Ti.

 

[WileE]

There are now several US vendors for NiFe 52, but nothing thicker then 26ga as of yet. Now there is an ECF vendor carrying it. Error Notice
Or from here includes shipping for $13 Reactor Wire

The US NiFe 52 (Reactor Wire) has a little more resistance then the Zivipf NiFe 48
Seems to be about 1 wrap less for same resistance on any given build.

 

[Mactavish]

It would be nice if Mod Manufacturers changed
Temperature Protection message to
Set Temperature Reached or Achieved.

When the desired Temperature is set in a TC Mod,
it tries to reach that temperature and once reached...
it tries not to exceed the coil temperature above the set temperature.

It is similar in operation to how we set the Temperature in Air Conditioners
through Thermostats.

I started a thread on the Evolv forum that covers your thought, in October. James from Evolv responded as well as to the "warnings" original intention.

Temperature Proteted WARNING message confusion? - DNA 200 Early Adopters Forum

 

[aldenf]

There are now several US vendors for NiFe 52, but nothing thicker then 26ga as of yet. Now there is an ECF vendor carrying it. Error Notice
Or from here includes shipping for $13 Reactor Wire

The US NiFe 52 (Reactor Wire) has a little more resistance then the Zivipf NiFe 48
Seems to be about 1 wrap less for same resistance on any given build.

At $1.25/foot do they wind the coils for you too?

 

[aldenf]

I started a thread on the Evolv forum that covers your thought, in October. James from Evolv responded as well as to the "warnings" original intention.

Temperature Proteted WARNING message confusion? - DNA 200 Early Adopters Forum

That is an excellent explanation...

 

[JimScotty0]

There are now several US vendors for NiFe 52, but nothing thicker then 26ga as of yet. Now there is an ECF vendor carrying it. Error Notice
Or from here includes shipping for $13 Reactor Wire

The US NiFe 52 (Reactor Wire) has a little more resistance then the Zivipf NiFe 48
Seems to be about 1 wrap less for same resistance on any given build.

I have always wanted to try the Reactor Wire but it is on the expensive side so maybe a treat one day.

 

[Gazoo2You]

Those of you using this 430 SS. May I enquire as to the mods you are using to accomplish this with well? DNA mainly, or..?

 

[Quantum Mech]

Those of you using this 430 SS. May I enquire as to the mods you are using to accomplish this with well? DNA mainly, or..?

I'm not posh enough to own a dna200

Have tried mine with good success in TP Mode on

SXK VaporFlask 60w

SXK VaporShark 60w

Evic VTC Mini

SX Mini M Class

& also

RX200 in wattage mode

Mechs too with a strange sort of vape that hits quite hard then mellows out as the resistance rises

All in all I quite like it but its only a holiday stop gap for me, back to Ti for my daily work builds

 

[Shigura]

Those of you using this 430 SS. May I enquire as to the mods you are using to accomplish this with well? DNA mainly, or..?

Also weighing in on SS430 for you as well
DNA200s (Reuleaux and DX200)
SX350j-V1 (non sx mini m class)
Tugboat 80w clone(just in today been playing with the Nickel Purity and SS430)

 

[f1vefour]

Those of you using this 430 SS. May I enquire as to the mods you are using to accomplish this with well? DNA mainly, or..?

You should be able to use it on any device that does Ti TC.

I exclusively run SS430 on all my stuff, two mechanicals, a cloupor mini plus (Ti mode @ 230-250F), and an Apollo Reliant (adjustable TCR set to 14 @ 420-450F).

I like it.

 

[BigEgo]

There are now several US vendors for NiFe 52, but nothing thicker then 26ga as of yet. Now there is an ECF vendor carrying it. Error Notice
Or from here includes shipping for $13 Reactor Wire

The US NiFe 52 (Reactor Wire) has a little more resistance then the Zivipf NiFe 48
Seems to be about 1 wrap less for same resistance on any given build.

I am sure there's plenty of places in the U.S. that can and do manufacture all of these alloys as wire. Problem is getting them to sell it in anything smaller than a semi-truck load.

 

[pevinsghost]

Those of you using this 430 SS. May I enquire as to the mods you are using to accomplish this with well? DNA mainly, or..?

I use it on an xcube ii mostly myself.