the end of vapeing as we know it??

[Myrany]

That cigarette buzz is lack of oxygen to the brain. Smoking constricts the blood vessels. I'm thinking that those who are very sensitive to nic might experience that constriction?

You might be right.

As a smoker I smoked Ultra Lights. My First cig of the morning (after 6-8 hours without while I slept) I always got a headspin/headrush sensation. After the first one not again unless I went 6-8 hours without a smoke.

When I first started vaping I went with a 12 mg nic FRUIT flavored juice. And got the exact same headspin/headrush with every puff. I immediately dropped to 9 mg and have not had that since.

 

[Myk]

Well, one of the possible side effects (under both "severe" and "minor" side effects) listed for some NRT products is dizziness, so obviously nicotine has been reported to cause dizziness/light-headedness in at least some people. But that doesn't explain people who got dizzy/light-headed from that first cigarette of the day but don't get it from vaping. Logically, something other than the nicotine in cigarette smoke was causing it or the nicotine in e-cigarettes would have the same effect on them, as well?

Freebase cigarettes send the nicotine faster don't they?

When I was first switching and having problems not having that morning cigarette I started using 18mg in the morning. I had to count my puffs or else it would end up being too much and I would feel as bad as if I didn't have my morning cigarette (half a cigarette at that point). I'd have to lay down and the process would start all over when I got back up.
I don't remember if it was dizzy but I imagine it would've fit in with light headed.

Funny thing, now that I worked up to 18mg figuring 11mg wasn't enough to keep UC at bay (since it didn't) I can vape 18mg a lot without a problem or I can go without and have to remind myself I need some nicotine. And when I do something like go nuts on a new flavor or trying wattages on a new flavor I get a little head spin and it goes away quickly.
It's not the same as when I first started smoking and definitely doesn't last like it did when I first started vaping.

 

[mad maori]

ironic- they say their looking out for our health and impose bans and restrictions on e-cigs- but approve another brand of cancer sticks to be sold!!!! w.t.f???
U.S. approves two new Newport cigarettes in first use of new powers

 

[The Ocelot]

ironic- they say their looking out for our health and impose bans and restrictions on e-cigs- but approve another brand of cancer sticks to be sold!!!! w.t.f???
U.S. approves two new Newport cigarettes in first use of new powers

It looks like Lorillard is trying to cover all the bases, considering they own Blu.

 

[DaveP]

I didn't remember the product name but 3 seconds into that commercial I remembered seeing that. My friends and I laughed at it. I'm old but not as old as you by a bit I guess, lol.

Seeing the video over again made me remember it. I had to laugh, too. I recall thinking that my childhood candy cigarettes used to produce no vapor just like that one.

I like thick clouds of PG based vapor.

 

[Hotwire]

ironic- they say their looking out for our health and impose bans and restrictions on e-cigs- but approve another brand of cancer sticks to be sold!!!! w.t.f???
U.S. approves two new Newport cigarettes in first use of new powers

Because cigs 'are not' drug delivery devices, eherm, eherm.... even though they are essentially freebase nicotine and full of excellerants (can't spell that) and all sorts of other chemicals to make the alkoids hit your brain faster and harder.

Nope, no drug delivery devices there, or even harmful drugs, no siree!

The corruption is enough to make one's head spin.

 

[Hotwire]

I got a major buzz of the gum too fwiw, more than from vaping, made me feel actually like vommiting.

 

[DaveP]

Because cigs 'are not' drug delivery devices, eherm, eherm.... even though they are essentially freebase nicotine and full of excellerants (can't spell that) and all sorts of other chemicals to make the alkoids hit your brain faster and harder.

Nope, no drug delivery devices there, or even harmful drugs, no siree!

The corruption is enough to make one's head spin.

Ammonia is supposed to be one of the additives that freebases the nicotine in cigarettes. Ammonia is some pretty dangerous stuff to be inhaling in any quantity, IMO. Add in the glue that binds the paper and the chemical that makes it go out if you don't puff, plus the other additives and you have a pretty harmful package. I don't really expect ecigs to be proven to have anywhere near the toxicity of commercial tobacco.

Still, we wait and the lack of sufficient published testing results is disappointing. If there were significant health hazards involved the big tobacco companies wouldn't be touting the advantages of their new flagship ecig products that work just like ours. I think they've seen the future and it isn't tobacco rolled in paper.

 

[Hotwire]

I am eagerly awaiting the July reviews of RJ Reynold's new product and the Marlboro one when they come out. Not because I want to buy them right now, I'm much happier with my ego and cheap Dekang juice, but IF it is the future, interesting to see how they perform IF they are all we'll be stuck with....

 

[gusibon]

BT should be required to list all their chemical additives.

 

[kristin]

The ANTZ have really controlled the dialog about ammoniated tobacco. Read the "story" of ammoniated tobacco (by anti-tobacco researchers) here: The SECRET and SOUL of Marlboro and see whether you agree that ammonia is so "insidious" as they would have us believe

Important to note:
1) Ammonia occurs naturally in tobacco, sometimes in far greater amounts than the tobacco companies added.
2) There is no evidence ammoniated tobacco is more harmful than non-ammoniated tobacco.
3) There is no evidence ammoniated tobacco is more "addictive" than non-ammoniated tobacco.
4) Ammonia is used to remove/lower nicotine in tobacco - something the ANTZ are calling for.
5) Ammonia is used to remove/lower carcinogens in tobacco - something ANTZ are calling for.
6) Before the free-nicotine aspect was discovered, ammonia was used primarily as a flavor enhancer, in reconstituted tobacco and in low-tar/low-yield tobacco.
7) Ammonia is used in the processing of beef, canned goods, baked goods, straw for cattle, fertilizer for produce and grains we eat.
8) Even though ammonia increased the effective delivery of nicotine per cigarette, it did not increase the total amount of nicotine delivered. Even with ammoniation, only about 10% of the nicotine in a tobacco cigarette is actually absorbed by the human body.
9) Ammonia is used as a way to extract nicotine from tobacco - possibly the same nicotine in our e-liquid, g

While the ANTZ like to scare people with the words "toxic ammonia" and "freebase," claiming that it may make such cigarettes "more addictive," at the very same time they claim that "organic" and "additive-free" cigarettes are not less hazardous or less addictive than cigarettes with additives. If that is the case, then ammoniated or cigarettes with "additives" cannot be "more addictive" or "more hazardous." It's like claiming the fat in sugar and ice cream is bad for us, but also claiming that non-fat, non-sugar ice cream isn't any less fattening. If non-fat, non-sugar ice cream is just as fattening as regular ice cream, then it can't be the fat and sugar in regular ice cream that is fattening!

 

[pamdis]

If there were significant health hazards involved the big tobacco companies wouldn't be touting the advantages of their new flagship ecig products that work just like ours.

Riiiiight....

 

[mad maori]

the answer has been here in front of us all time, o ye of little vape and small egos!!!
power to the battery, the mod, and the holy vape!!!!!
Brainstorming Some Guerilla Activism for Vaping Rights |

 

[mad maori]

the orthodox RY4 church? the bobas buddha's ? church of vanilla vapeoligy?

 

[mad maori]

well- RTS now... who is next to get raided- thin edge of the wedge???