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I have a lot of flavors in the 8ml bottles. I'm getting 4oz bottles today for my ADV flavorings.

My ADV is a Black Pom clone I found here. I always use Pomegranate Deluxe for it. Is there really a huge difference in regular and deluxe flavorings? Regular Pomegranate is $6, Deluxe is $8.75. (for 4 oz)
Have not used either myself, but in reading the website about the flavors, it said this:

"This flavor was a special request, and is a different take on pomegranate. "

So, they are two different flavorings, or takes, on pomegranate. You'd probably have to try both see which you preferred. She does also say:

"(I happen to like this one better, but that's just me)."

Hopefully, someone else will chime in with actual experience with both flavors. Good luck!
 

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I have used MFS wholesale, and still do for nicotine in bulk. I usually buy a 2 year supply at a time. I currently have a 3 year supply, though I'll use that up quicker if I make juices for others (private label).

Bill, would you share how you store the nic solution? I'm buying mine from MFS, too. I've just been keeping it cool and dark, but my latest purchase will last a long time. Does this stuff spoil?

Thank you!

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Bill, would you share how you store the nic solution? I'm buying mine from MFS, too. I've just been keeping it cool and dark, but my latest purchase will last a long time. Does this stuff spoil?

Thank you!

Tim
I keep my nicotine in a cool dark place, but I have not refrigerated it, or frozen it, though I do understand that many do. Nicotine does have a shelf life. My understanding from reading about it over the last couple of years, and from several sources is that it retains its potency for about 18 months, and then can begin some chemical alteration, i.e., become less potent. Even though I say I have a two year supply, that means that if I don't make any juice for anyone else, I'm good for two years. However, these supplies have been lasting me about 6 months lately due to production runs. I have two quarts of 10% Nic in VG, and one quart of Nic in PG, at the moment. If I did believe that I needed it to last more than a year or so, I would probably freeze it. Thus far, it hasnt' been necessary, and I've noticed no issues. My oldest Nic is now 11 months old, and is just as potent as it was when I got it as far as I can tell. I have not chemically tested it, though. All I can say at this point.

TFA is quick to ship, and ships with Priority Mail, so you can generally have packages in two to four days from shipping. If I order on the weekend or Monday, I'll generally have by Friday or sooner, as an example. TFA has consistently shipped my orders the day after the order date. I've had no problems at all with them.
 

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I keep my nicotine in a cool dark place, but I have not refrigerated it, or frozen it, though I do understand that many do. Nicotine does have a shelf life. My understanding from reading about it over the last couple of years, and from several sources is that it retains its potency for about 18 months, and then can begin some chemical alteration, i.e., become less potent. Even though I say I have a two year supply, that means that if I don't make any juice for anyone else, I'm good for two years. However, these supplies have been lasting me about 6 months lately due to production runs. I have two quarts of 10% Nic in VG, and one quart of Nic in PG, at the moment. If I did believe that I needed it to last more than a year or so, I would probably freeze it. Thus far, it hasnt' been necessary, and I've noticed no issues. My oldest Nic is now 11 months old, and is just as potent as it was when I got it as far as I can tell. I have not chemically tested it, though. All I can say at this point.

TFA is quick to ship, and ships with Priority Mail, so you can generally have packages in two to four days from shipping. If I order on the weekend or Monday, I'll generally have by Friday or sooner, as an example. TFA has consistently shipped my orders the day after the order date. I've had no problems at all with them.

Okay. That helps me. Thanks, Bill. I bought 100mg 50/50 from MFS during their sale. Tremendous deal = $50.00 for a quart (1000 ml). It will take me a while to use it so in 6 months I may freeze whatever is left in smaller bottles.

Perfumer's Apprentice/Flavor Apprentice routinely ships for me on the day that I order. I'm mid-continent. I don't know if that makes a difference. I usually order in the morning. I generally receive my order the second day after the day I ordered. So, three days. This is consistent with me. Order Monday, get it Thursday.

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Okay. That helps me. Thanks, Bill. I bought 100mg 50/50 from MFS during their sale. Tremendous deal = $50.00 for a quart (1000 ml). It will take me a while to use it so in 6 months I may freeze whatever is left in smaller bottles.

Perfumer's Apprentice/Flavor Apprentice routinely ships for me on the day that I order. I'm mid-continent. I don't know if that makes a difference. I usually order in the morning. I generally receive my order the second day after the day I ordered. So, three days. This is consistent with me. Order Monday, get it Thursday.

Tim

Yeppers, Tim. I bought two liters on their last sale myself, and yes, it was a tremendous deal. I had a full liter left at the time, but how can you pass up that deal, right? Like, you, I too, have had no problems with TFA, and they do ship fast, particularly if you order early. I am usually ordering on the weekends, and it goes out usually on Mondays. Seems like I get it on Thursday, most days. I'm in Las Vegas. Priority Mail, though is often two days, never more than four days for me,. Best!
 

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when ordering directly from TFA, how are the liquids bottles? I will need larger bottles eventually but I'm kind of liking the little glass samplers from WL especially when using the glass droppers.

That being said, when my long pipettes cone in I'm sure I'll prefer drawing from something larger and more stable...
 

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when ordering directly from TFA, how are the liquids bottles? I will need larger bottles eventually but I'm kind of liking the little glass samplers from WL especially when using the glass droppers.

That being said, when my long pipettes cone in I'm sure I'll prefer drawing from something larger and more stable...

Every time I have ordered from them it has came in glass for the smaller sizes, once you get up to 4oz then it is plastic bottles

Edit: I haven't ordered the 1oz size(it's pointless, just get the 4oz) so I am unsure on that one, I also haven't ordered larger than 4oz so I don't know about those.
 
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Curious, what is the correct website to order TFA flavors direct from TFA? Ive googled a few times and it seemed like a couple sites were them but I dont think they were. Ignorant question im sure but just curious incase I decide I need a whole .... load of flavor

The Perfumer's Apprentice:

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TFA flavorings come in 1 oz clear glass bottles with caps, 4 oz plastic bottles with caps, and 16 oz plastic bottles with caps. The tank killer flavorings come in a special plastic bottles for 4 oz. I haven't seen them in larger bottles yet, but one can easily distinguish them by their different plastic packaging.
 

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Thanks! Oh, and I read somewhere in this thread about pineapple killing plastic syringes. Just to back that up again, yes destroys them is correct. I measured all my other flavors first and "went real quick" with the pineapple to reduce the amount of melted rubber in my vape and in just a microsecond it made it hard to plunge the syringe. So far, with 1% in a plastic kayfun I dont see any noticeable issues but yes plastic syringes seem to dislike it greatly
 

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Thanks! Oh, and I read somewhere in this thread about pineapple killing plastic syringes. Just to back that up again, yes destroys them is correct. I measured all my other flavors first and "went real quick" with the pineapple to reduce the amount of melted rubber in my vape and in just a microsecond it made it hard to plunge the syringe. So far, with 1% in a plastic kayfun I dont see any noticeable issues but yes plastic syringes seem to dislike it greatly

Yes, pineapple is one of those flavors that comes in the special plastic container. I will either use graduated cylinders or glass syringes with these tank killing flavorings.
 

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Although I'm a bit of a ways off from ordering 4oz+ bottles (building up the list of flavors I want to get in larger quantities) I'm anticipating some difficulties getting the syringe down to the bottom and filling efficiently. I think I'm glad I have glass pipettes on the way to work with my pipette pump as well as graduated cylinders...
 

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Although I'm a bit of a ways off from ordering 4oz+ bottles (building up the list of flavors I want to get in larger quantities) I'm anticipating some difficulties getting the syringe down to the bottom and filling efficiently. I think I'm glad I have glass pipettes on the way to work with my pipette pump as well as graduated cylinders...

With the 4oz bottles and larger, what I do once it starts getting hard to reach the flavoring is just pour the rest into a smaller glass bottle and label it. Easy as pie. Mmmm pie. Now I am hungry.
Curious, what is the correct website to order TFA flavors direct from TFA? Ive googled a few times and it seemed like a couple sites were them but I dont think they were. Ignorant question im sure but just curious incase I decide I need a whole .... load of flavor

http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/

Go there and click the tab for Flavor Apprentice. The tab for perfumers apprentice is for their perfume line instead of flavorings. They make both so just make sure you are on the right tab.
 
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Does anyone have a suggested starting point for TFA Cranberry? I'm going to be trying for cranapple, but I'd like to try each flavor on its own first. Thanks.

Anybody know the answer to this? It is getting closer to the cranberry season after all, though not sure if that is good news or not. TIA
 
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