The goblin mini looking pretty flavorful

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Nope. I honestly don't know what could be missing from it. An insulator? All I did was remove 3 O rings, (1 from deck, 1 from chimney, 1 from top piece) but I put them all back on and either way, I don't think they would have anything to do with the atomizer not reading. I feel like its probably something really small and simple but I have no idea what it is. I don't want to have to send it back.

Ok dumb question... am I supposed to use one of the middle holes on the deck and one of the side ones? Right now I'm using both middle holes. I seem to get a reading whenever my screwdriver is touching some part of the base. I've never worked on a deck that has 4 coil holes soo.. I'm probably messing something up. Although, from the pics, it looks like everyone is using the middle holes only??
 
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Nope. I honestly don't know what could be missing from it. An insulator? All I did was remove 3 O rings, (1 from deck, 1 from chimney, 1 from top piece) but I put them all back on and either way, I don't think they would have anything to do with the atomizer not reading. I feel like its probably something really small and simple but I have no idea what it is. I don't want to have to send it back.

Ok dumb question... am I supposed to use one of the middle holes on the deck and one of the side ones? Right now I'm using both middle holes. I seem to get a reading whenever my screwdriver is touching some part of the base. I've never worked on a deck that has 4 coil holes soo.. I'm probably messing something up. Although, from the pics, it looks like everyone is using the middle holes only??

That's the Problem.

Use One Center Hole and One hole on an Outer Pin.

NOT BOTH Center Holes.
 

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Ah.. thanks lol. It looked like everyone was using just the 2 in the middle.. which I assumed would be okay for a single coil build. I guess the coils are just spaced to be in the middle area? Argh.. now I have to make another coil since I messed mine up. Oh well, at least I know my tank isn't defective.
 

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Ah.. thanks lol. It looked like everyone was using just the 2 in the middle.. which I assumed would be okay for a single coil build. I guess the coils are just spaced to be in the middle area? Argh.. now I have to make another coil since I messed mine up. Oh well, at least I know my tank isn't defective.

Good to Hear you're Back in Business.

Yeah... Try to Space the Coils so they are Centered over the Deck Air Hole(s).
 
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Ok I got mine up and running finally. Jeez, darn thing gave me some trouble. First a cut on my finger and then the coil nonsense, and then I had trouble getting the top cap on. All my own fault though lol. 8 wrap, 27 gauge, reading about 1.1 ohms, using KGD cotton. Its hitting pretty nice, although I know for my next build, I will use the drip tip adapter instead of the glass tips. It's just too short and wide for my taste. I have my airhole almost completely closed as I prefer a mouth to lung.

As for the wicks, is it better to have them all in the juice channels or resting above it? I think I may have put too much wick in there, although I'm not sure of the proper amount. Seems to be a consistent issue with me in my builds.

Other than that, really nice little tank. We'll see if I get lucky and dump a bunch of liquid on my mod.
 

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As for the wicks, is it better to have them all in the juice channels or resting above it? I think I may have put too much wick in there, although I'm not sure of the proper amount. Seems to be a consistent issue with me in my builds.
My wics are pretty tight in there. I haven't had a leak, sat overnight, and no dry hit. Ill try to get a picture it my phone will take a good one.
 
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Not a great pic but I think it shows enough to answer the question.

Not sure why it came out sideways when I held my phone vertically...
 

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How did yall get a 3mm coil in here? The 24 gauge 2.5 barely fits and restricts airflow a lot. I'm thinking my next coil will be a 2mm 26 build and see if that helps the restricted draw. To me it's tighter than the mutation x v4 with the side air completely blocked off when I don't think it should due to the size of the bottom airflow.

Mild complaint aside, it has great flavor and a bit more airflow then my drop did before I drilled the air holes bigger.
 
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picked mine up locally @Dashvapes today...cleaned up with qtip, soaked with soap and boiling water etc...no alcohol or any fancy UV cleaning tools... just built a 0.4ohm dual coil (will try single coil cause juice just disappears with dual, but i like my 0.4ohms ; <) about 8 wraps on a 2.5mm bit with 26guage... gotta wick it and will try it in an hour or so ; > exciting!

it was bit more expensive then i thought it would be (39.99 CDN with conversion it's still about 8 bucks more then the US) but i saved on shipping since i walked to pick it up..
 
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filled and vaped... pretty good.. i decided i don't like the glass tip cause the condensation doesn't look nice after i vaped it... so i put on the adapter.. the flavor is what i expected on par with the regular goblin if not slightly better... the airflow seems a tad less then the original goblin, i was surprised as the holes look huge... but maybe the opening being narrow and close to the mod might have a different pull force (if that's a real thing)... i don't know, maybe it's me... but overall pretty good... now i'm scared to put this thing anywhere, but it looks nice ; > and that o ring included on the fill screw... awesome...
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Been using mine for a couple days, definitely enjoying it. The smaller size deck style of this and the Billow 2 can be a PITA to work on, have had more than my fair share of rage inducing, coil warping, leg snapping shorts, but once built up properly it's been great. Flavor is very good, airflow options are very good though it can be tricky to adjust on some (most) mods without a paperclip or something, capacity is better than expected for the size, as far as that goes looks are deceiving(this thing is truly MINI), it's much smaller in person than it looks in pictures but holds a fair amount of juice. You really cant beat 3 mL for a tank this size.


I'm using 28 and 30 gauge kanthal twisted together, flavor is fantastic and about the same between single and dual coil, the flavor is a hair fuller and more 'moist' with duals, though juice consumption is drastically increased, so I'll probably mostly be using it in single coil mode. Now that I really think about it, its hard to say which mode has better flavor, as the single coil plug also inadvertently acts as a chamber reducer. I'll have to go through a few more tanks with different juices to reach a final verdict on single vs dual flavor, but either way in either mode flavor is above average to excellent and holds it own against my other flavor RTA's and even drippers.

Aesthetically, the piece itself looks VERY nice, but out of place on some mods. It looked plain stupid on my IPV Mini II IMO(that could be due to the wrap on it though, its a 'busy' design, but oddly enough I think it just might work looks wise on the IPV 3, but that's reserved for drippers and bigger tanks). However, it looks right at home on my black Evic VT, and that combo is an oddly pleasing compact set up. A nickle build is therefore inevitable :). Also looked pretty nice on my Skeleton Key, though too bottom heavy in 18650 mode to convince me to want to switch out the Lemo Drop I usually run on it (mainly for the 23mm size) Would probably look amazing with an 18500, but that's the nature of that particular mech anyway. (which reminds me, I have actually never used any other batteries besides 18 and 26 650s, I rotate 10 Samsungs, 2 MNKEs, and 4 Sonys, but have never owned or fired anything else, anyone care to point me towards a write up/thread on the smaller batteries' safety and the types of builds appropriate for them? I can figure out the amp draw and everything and find a range that would be safe if I do go ahead and try them out, but seeing real world examples is always better than just doing the math for me. Thanks!)

Leakage has been surprisingly non existent. When I first got the tank apart to check out the deck and saw straight through the airflow I thought for sure it was going to be a major major issue. However, it hasn't been at all, and I wicked slightly heavy on single coil build 1 and slightly light on dual coil build 2 with no particular attention given to getting the wick perfect to sort of test out leak potential. Nothing more than the usual condensation, much less than what would be in the base of an OG Lemo when going for a refill. Lack of leakage could be due to a sort of muscle memory from wicking the similar Billow 2 this past month, YMMV. The Lemo, that brings me to the biggest con I have so far, the bottom fill and the way it's implemented. Bottom fill I can deal with, and flat head screws I can deal with, but flat head bottom fill screw? Hell. No. I suppose it looks great, nice and flush, absolute nightmare to use. Quarter turn-driver slips-quarter turn-driver slips-quarter turn-driver slips annnd the screwdriver is tossed at the wall. Filling as a whole could have been implemented much better on this tank, either by a chimney with 2 separate thread sections ala EVERY OTHER RTA I use for an easier time at 'unoffical' top fill, a dedicated top fill like Youde apparently was claiming, or something similar to the Lemo's silicon plug. Anything really, with the different colored glass sections available it seems Youde is going for customization on this tank, I'm just really hoping spare parts etc become available, specifically Philips fill screws or a silicon plug. That single coil plug and the fill screw for that matter will inevitably find their way into the depths of the post screw and o ring black hole, so I hope that piece will eventually be available as a separate purchase as well for those that do end up losing it. They did GREAT with that deck plug, so I know they have it in them to come out with something better for the fill port. Most likely wishful thinking, as all that is A LOT of support to ask of a $30 Chinese tank. While I'm fantasizing on extra parts, a chimney that isn't one big female thread would be nice as well, and hell let's throw a reverse drop kit on that list as well. Could look really nice, a 5 or 6 mL tank with minimal steel, though it would become somewhat of an at home show piece for likelihood of breakage at that point.

All in all, I do highly enjoy this tank and am overall very happy with my purchase. I would not recommend it as someone's first RTA, but for those who have some experience with rebuildable tanks you really cant go wrong if you have a mod it will match up nicely with. Flavor, vapor production, airflow and looks are all top notch. Single coil mode on a 4 post tank is a fantastic option to have for those of us who prefer single coils and I suspect will make nickle builds much easier than perfecting a dual nickle setup. Filling can definitely be improved and the airflow adjustment is neither bad nor exceptional. It gets points for the unique design but can be a bit of a pain to adjust without a tool or long fingernails. I definitely recommend this tank to RTA users, it wouldn't be great as someone's only RTA but makes a very worthy addition to a lineup of tanks. All in all, it has its place amongst RTA's, and it fills its spot well.
 

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So I got super lucky my first time with the wic. I decided I wanted to redo it this morning and it turned into a near hour long thing trying to get it to work. After all that I am still not sure it is even as good as my first try. I tell myself this every time but and I still do it and I know I will do it again but don't mess with a good setup.
 
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The Goblins shine @ .25-.30, but man do they go through the juice, seems like you can watch the juice empty with a good lung hit.....:)

You would think by now they could have designed a good top fill method...but they certainly are flavor machines for the money....:thumb:
I hear yah... everytime i take a hit i see the bubbles coming up from the channels... juice is starting to get expensive!
The juice i am using in the tank (picture above) is the Halcyon Dragon'Chi and it's almost 17.99 a bottle (30ml) i just recently bought a 120ml for about $70... not cheap! the same as a carton of analogs...

next build will be single coil to see if the juice consumption reduces...
 

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Well I went to a 2mm dual coil that's 8 wraps of 26 gauge. Airflow increased by a large amount, overall heat went down, but lost a bit of flavor which could be due to the fresh build.Overall I am pleased with this setup for now but will give it a day and see how I like it.

I also think I figured out the wicking after watching grimmgreens video on the zephyrus again. The method he showed seems fairly reliable as it has worked the 3 times I have tried it.
 
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Love this thing on my SX Mini M Class. Tried to check it out on my wife's iStick TC 40w and it didn't sit flush on the 510 connector and ended up collapsing the pin, so it's now non self-adjusting [emoji44]

But the form factor on it is crazy small!

Side note, anyone know a fix for the iStick 510 pin? Lol...


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I just did my first dual coil build just now, and this thing is blowing my socks off! Double wrapped 30 gauge Ti at .12 Ohms, 30 Joules and 450 degrees F.

Mind. Blown.


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Well I went to a 2mm dual coil that's 8 wraps of 26 gauge. Airflow increased by a large amount, overall heat went down, but lost a bit of flavor which could be due to the fresh build.Overall I am pleased with this setup for now but will give it a day and see how I like it.

I also think I figured out the wicking after watching grimmgreens video on the zephyrus again. The method he showed seems fairly reliable as it has worked the 3 times I have tried it.
Interesting but makes sense. It didn't occur to me that a smaller diameter would increase airflow. I am used to dippers and bottom feeders. The goblin mini is the first tank that I have liked.

My king of all is the Veritas. I enjoy that it's not a moist feeling vapor. My Goblin is close but still feels a little moist. I wonder if a smaller diameter will change that.
 

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Interesting but makes sense. It didn't occur to me that a smaller diameter would increase airflow. I am used to dippers and bottom feeders. The goblin mini is the first tank that I have liked.

My king of all is the Veritas. I enjoy that it's not a moist feeling vapor. My Goblin is close but still feels a little moist. I wonder if a smaller diameter will change that.
Smaller coil doesn't take up as much room in the barrel and over the airflow as a larger coil would so more air can pass. A similar effect can occur in a dripper if you make a large coil and place it very close to the airflow holes, did that in my infinite clt to see if I could increase flavor.

I think that the moist feeling is less on the 2mm than the 2.5mm I had in there before. I actually like a moist vape, I love my mutation x v4 because of it even if my poor habits make it a leaky SOB.

On the subject of airflow again, my next build is going to be vertical coil. I saw this done on a goblin and they said it increased both airflow and flavor. Only reason I haven't done it is because the build in there right now has been working so well I haven't wanted to mess with it.
 
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