Hangsen USA red is ashy. A good quality if your looking for a USA cigarette flavor.
Yeah, I was just talking within the four I had mentioned. I know that ashy flavor in USA red, but I don't like it very much. Actually, I have noticed that if you order Dekang or Hangsen (I've tried a few premade including red) that they are often inconsistent on how much "ash" flavor there will be, and even in which flavors they seem to add it to. I've ordered from LiteCig and it seems to be in everything, and once I ordered a Virginnia flavor from somewhere else where it was so strong it literally tasted like a bucket of water with cigarette butts floating in it (I'm sure everyone has smelled something like that before.) It's almost like vendors keep a bottle of ash on the side, and just add as much as they feel like. But more likely there is just a lot of inconsistency coming from the manufactures, which may even explain the differences some people detect in getting Hangsen flavors from different vendors.
Let us know how the 7% works out on the RY1. I agree that the flavor is a bit light with that one, but I've yet to go as high as 7.
I've tried it now, but I think I will stick to 5%. RY1 is subtle and it makes you want to turn it up, but to me it seems when you do, it brings out things that are not so good. It's like it's good precisely because it's subtle. It seems that Indian is similar in that respect as well. Though 7% might be good if you're using a lot of VG, I'm using a 70/30.
As far as steeping goes, I'm one of those people who don't believe too much in it. More specifically, I think everything does need a few days to taste right, but usually after that the flavor just gets worse to me. I find some variation to this when using lots of different flavorings, and particularly natural tobacco flavors, they might benefit after a week or so. This is what I've determined mostly from ordering premade juices, but also from when I would occasionally mix them, they definitely need a few days to blend together, but after that I seem to prefer freshness.
This is just my tastes, and I am a newb at DIY, so maybe these Hangsen flavors will change my mind. I doubt it, but I do have 50mls of four different flavors mixed up, so they should all be pretty well steeped before I finish them.