Cavendish is a wide spectrum. Many different kinds of cavendish. It’s a process, not a specific tobacco type.
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Just got this through customs (it's a BIG deal when one slips through) Tobacco Reviews | Sutliff Tobacco Company - Stoved Virginia #507-S
I'm hoping it extracts well. I can use it by itself, or in a mix (hopefully another RY4). I like the sound of caramel(ish) sweetness in the reviews.
I'm hoping it extracts well. I can use it by itself, or in a mix (hopefully another RY4). I like the sound of caramel(ish) sweetness in the reviews.
The process to make cavendish is designed to bring out the sweeter notes of a tobacco.
Virginia can vary. Yellow, or blond, Virginia is sweet and "grassy" or "earthy". Red Virginia is still sweet, but not as grassy. Dark Virginia is not quite as sweet but richer. Virginia tobacco has a natural sugar that grows into the leafs, thus they are sweet. It is mostly Flue Cured, although sometimes it is Fire Cured to add a smokey texture. HHV Huntsman was a Virginia extract, and pipe tobaccos like C&D Briar Fox and Yorktown are a couple of examples. McClellan Stoved Virginia (no longer available) was an excellent Fire Cured Virginia.
Burley is grown specifically to not have natural sugars. This makes the leaves lighter in color. Many claim that Burley has a "nutty" taste. White Burley is vary mild, and is used as a mixer with Virginia tobaccos, while stronger Burley is often referred to as "old codger Burley". Like Virginia tobaccos, Burley is mostly Flue Cured but occasionally Fire Cured. @Bronze has extracted Fire Cured Kentucky Burley, while C&D Crooner and Haunted Bookshop are considered to be "Burley first" blends.
Cavendish is a process where Virginia and/or Burley tobaccos are pressed into a cake, then steamed to enhance the natural sweetness of the tobacco. Sometimes the tobacco is treated with a top note before pressing, making it a Cherry, Vanilla, Butterscotch, Caramel, or whatever flavor is desired mild and sweet tobacco for blending.
Perique is a white tobacco grown on the Delta Plain of Louisiana. Carefully harvested, then pressed until the air is removed and left to ferment for a year. It comes out dark, wet and spicy. H&H Louisiana Red and Anniversary Cake are Virginia/ Perique, or VaPer, blends.
Turkish, or Oriental, tobacco is a name given to a small leaf variety of tobacco grown in the Middle East. It is normally sun cured, and is used extensively in cigarette production. Peter Stokkebye's 84 Turkish is a Virginia/ Turkish blend, while Roll-Your-Own (RYO) cigarette tobaccos like Ryan and Daughters, and OHM Turkish blends, feature these small leaf sun-cured tobaccos.
Latakia tobacco is a Turkish tobacco that is partially sun cured, then hung in barns over selected smoldering wood and herbs. It is a very strong and distinctive taste that is usually added in small quantities as a 'condiment' flavor to a tobacco blend. English Blends such as Sutliff's Voodoo Queen, and Dunhill's Early Morning and Nightcap are Latakia blends. Though I tend to stay away from the stronger English blends, H&H Midtown Chestnut has a small condiment of Latakia that is noticeable as a 'black licorice' taste on the exhale.
Just my observations and tastes. When you start adding cigar tobaccos like Maduro and Connecticut Leaf, the options grow exponentially.
Burley is grown specifically to not have natural sugars. This makes the leaves lighter in color. Many claim that Burley has a "nutty" taste. White Burley is vary mild, and is used as a mixer with Virginia tobaccos, while stronger Burley is often referred to as "old codger Burley". Like Virginia tobaccos, Burley is mostly Flue Cured but occasionally Fire Cured. @Bronze has extracted Fire Cured Kentucky Burley, while C&D Crooner and Haunted Bookshop are considered to be "Burley first" blends.
Cavendish is a process where Virginia and/or Burley tobaccos are pressed into a cake, then steamed to enhance the natural sweetness of the tobacco. Sometimes the tobacco is treated with a top note before pressing, making it a Cherry, Vanilla, Butterscotch, Caramel, or whatever flavor is desired mild and sweet tobacco for blending.
Perique is a white tobacco grown on the Delta Plain of Louisiana. Carefully harvested, then pressed until the air is removed and left to ferment for a year. It comes out dark, wet and spicy. H&H Louisiana Red and Anniversary Cake are Virginia/ Perique, or VaPer, blends.
Turkish, or Oriental, tobacco is a name given to a small leaf variety of tobacco grown in the Middle East. It is normally sun cured, and is used extensively in cigarette production. Peter Stokkebye's 84 Turkish is a Virginia/ Turkish blend, while Roll-Your-Own (RYO) cigarette tobaccos like Ryan and Daughters, and OHM Turkish blends, feature these small leaf sun-cured tobaccos.
Latakia tobacco is a Turkish tobacco that is partially sun cured, then hung in barns over selected smoldering wood and herbs. It is a very strong and distinctive taste that is usually added in small quantities as a 'condiment' flavor to a tobacco blend. English Blends such as Sutliff's Voodoo Queen, and Dunhill's Early Morning and Nightcap are Latakia blends. Though I tend to stay away from the stronger English blends, H&H Midtown Chestnut has a small condiment of Latakia that is noticeable as a 'black licorice' taste on the exhale.
Just my observations and tastes. When you start adding cigar tobaccos like Maduro and Connecticut Leaf, the options grow exponentially.
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You're quite the tobacco expert Brett. I had no idea on any of that.
Hearth & Home Signature Frenchy's Sunza.....es - Pipes and Cigars
Extracted (Cold Maceration) - Winter of 2021
Mixed at 10% (30/70 w/10mg nicotine) - June 6, 2021
FLAVOR ! This one will never be mistaken for 'mild' or 'subtle'. The Burley (most likely dark Burley) jumps out hand and hand with the spicy Perique. Together they share the center of the stage, but they are not alone. There is a sweetness added from the blended Virginias and maybe some Black Cavendish, but they are more condiment than flavors. There is an ever-so-slight dark 'zing' hidden within the blend from the "Bourbon", although it only tickles beneath the blend. Think of Haunted Bookshop or Three Friars, also Va/Bur/Per blends, only sweet and a little tangy. This is a delightful blend with a good amount of body and the nuances of it's intricacies. This could be an All-Day vape, or an After Dinner treat. Well worth the effort of the extraction process, even if the ECF likes to 'censure' the name of the FSOB.
Extracted (Cold Maceration) - Winter of 2021
Mixed at 10% (30/70 w/10mg nicotine) - June 6, 2021
FLAVOR ! This one will never be mistaken for 'mild' or 'subtle'. The Burley (most likely dark Burley) jumps out hand and hand with the spicy Perique. Together they share the center of the stage, but they are not alone. There is a sweetness added from the blended Virginias and maybe some Black Cavendish, but they are more condiment than flavors. There is an ever-so-slight dark 'zing' hidden within the blend from the "Bourbon", although it only tickles beneath the blend. Think of Haunted Bookshop or Three Friars, also Va/Bur/Per blends, only sweet and a little tangy. This is a delightful blend with a good amount of body and the nuances of it's intricacies. This could be an All-Day vape, or an After Dinner treat. Well worth the effort of the extraction process, even if the ECF likes to 'censure' the name of the FSOB.
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Well i'm not good at reviews, but I have to say something about this tobacco mix that i'm thoroughly enjoying...
Peter Stokkebye: NORWEGIAN PIPE TOBACCO - 4Noggins.com
It's a burley, virginia and oriental mix that plays wonderfully together. I can make out the sweet, nutty and spicy elements both individually, and in the way they are balanced ... just wonderful.
Peter Stokkebye: NORWEGIAN PIPE TOBACCO - 4Noggins.com
It's a burley, virginia and oriental mix that plays wonderfully together. I can make out the sweet, nutty and spicy elements both individually, and in the way they are balanced ... just wonderful.
I have this one now Hearth & Home Signature Anniversary Kake - Pipes and Cigars
I'm a fan of Perique to begin with and I do like this. It's very smooth and I don't find it too sweet. I really enjoy this one.
I'm a fan of Perique to begin with and I do like this. It's very smooth and I don't find it too sweet. I really enjoy this one.
I haven't moved on from the brigadier and the meat candy yet. I am liking the brigadier a little better.
Anniversary Kake (from Papaw's care package)
My reviews here will not be as detailed as most here are, my knowledge of different tobaccos is well, I used to smoke it, and I either like something or I don't.
My first impression of this one last night was that all I could taste was smoke, and where exactly was this flavor when I first started vaping and was looking for a smoke flavor, not a chemical one? As I continued with it however, there's just a mild sweetness to it, the smoke is no longer overpowering and I'm quite enjoying it. It pairs nicely with a cup of coffee. I can see this being one that I'd like to keep on hand.
Thanks for letting me try this, Papaw, and for getting me started on yet another rabbit hole.
My reviews here will not be as detailed as most here are, my knowledge of different tobaccos is well, I used to smoke it, and I either like something or I don't.
My first impression of this one last night was that all I could taste was smoke, and where exactly was this flavor when I first started vaping and was looking for a smoke flavor, not a chemical one? As I continued with it however, there's just a mild sweetness to it, the smoke is no longer overpowering and I'm quite enjoying it. It pairs nicely with a cup of coffee. I can see this being one that I'd like to keep on hand.
Thanks for letting me try this, Papaw, and for getting me started on yet another rabbit hole.
I liked the Anniversary Kake also.
I have Bayou Morning now . Very smooth and tasty. Not a huge fan of Virginias but the Perique pairs nicely in this mix. I like it.
I have Bayou Morning now . Very smooth and tasty. Not a huge fan of Virginias but the Perique pairs nicely in this mix. I like it.
Vaping never produced a cigarette experience that came close IMO. Pipes and cigars are a different story. Vapes can come fairly close.
Glad you are enjoying this. My opinion - and nothing more - there is NO comparison between Natural Tobacco flavors and synthetic tobacco flavors. The 'Smoke' flavor you described is the natural tobacco flavor, and cannot be duplicated by mixing pepper and anise.
Much of my so-called "knowledge" of tobacco flavors can be attributed to my days of pipe smoking, and nights joining the discussion on the old "Natural Tobaccos" thread. Started by @luceblueboy, and sharing information with @Mr.Mann , @Dusty_D , @Jerms , @scarface , @johni , @Bronze and others, I was able to explore the various tobacco flavors. Once I found the Types of Tobacco Flavors I enjoyed, it was just trial and error from there.
Keep trying, and keep the 'rabbit hole' going. It's worth it.
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I’m trying the 84 Turkish tonight. Not a fan so far. It keeps reminding me of green grass or some kind of green leaf. I guess I prefer the sweet Nets.
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