Tired of waiting for this thing to drop. I want one!
I pinged 'em again on their FB page. Keep the pressure up, I say. (Yeah, like that's really going to push the ship date forward.They've been awfully quiet.
True, but it's still interesting, and with the proper medium to contain the liquid, it might be possible to use it with e-liquids.
Lucky .......! I didn't keep up with this thread enough and missed out.I am on the list ;0
I've found that there's just about always a way to refill it no matter what the manufacturer intends.The Ploom is an interesting product, that's for sure, but it seems to be even more expensive than analogs. $35 for the unit is fine, but $6 for 12 pods when each one only lasts for 5-10 minutes makes it a very costly. If those pods are user-refillable, however, that changes everything!
Good question. Tea and caffine in general vaprizes at a higher temperature than tobacco, 100F higher or more. Before discovering e-cigs I experimented with vaporizing tobacco, and liked blending in other herbs; like a tobacco/tea mix for a morning wakeup, and a tobacco/chamomile mix to send me to sleep. It was always tricky to get the right temp to vaporize both without burning either.Does the Model One vape at a high enough temperature to get the benefits of vaporizing tea(caffeine) or is that just a flavoring?
I almost love you for your "crispy" comment, but no, not all of us in S.F. are hippy-dippy, crispy, new-agey, woo-believers.I'm having a hard time believing that many people in oh-so-cool San Francisco still actually smoke. Cigarettes. I mean really. I picture people deciding to do this because it's so cool, not because they want to quit smoking. Or maybe they will be mainly using it to vape chamomille tea or some such crispy foolishness. Who are these people, anyway?
You know, there are regular people in SF, too! There are even... Republicans!Good point made earlier in the thread -- someone wondering how many people actually still smoke in ever-so-hip-and-healthy San Francisco. I'd have thought that by now, any remaining smoker in S.F. would have been sent packing to a re-education camp in some undisclosed location. (Egad, imagine how much worse it must be in Berkeley or Santa Cruz. They probably just execute 'em on the streets. "Unhealthy creep! Poisoning The People! Hurting The Children with second-hand vapor! Waste him!"
It was $300 when I tried it, and while it might have worked for tobacco, it didn't for the real, but unadvertised, purpose. I haven't yet gotten around to experimenting with it for e-liquids, but I'm sure it would work with the right carrying medium.After reading thru this thread to me this Ploom thing sounds like a special
purpose (smaller and cheaper) Iolite-
Iolite while initially more expensive (just paid $200 on amazon w/free shipping)
I like your thinking, and while that's a good argument, I doubt it would fly legally. Logically valid, but not likely legally valid, if you see what I mean.Hrm....this is pretty neat and may help our cause.
The FDA certainly would not ban those devices as they are merely handheld versions of products that have existed for many years AND proven to be a safer way to use tobacco.
That device is right between where we are at and analogs. Its not so difficult to make a distinction between analogs and vaping as we know it. But, if you introduce that device the line becomes very blurry. How could the FDA approve that device (if they were to embrace it as a viable tobacco product) and not ours when the main difference is that device uses tobacco and ours uses basically an extract in a safe base solution. Our devices are even safe for those around us, as all indications tell us. I think it would put the FDA in a bit of a predicament. I dunno...prolly shouldn't be posting at 2 am but it seems like there could be some benefit to this product going on the market.
Yeah, that sounds about right. At least that sounds like what the FDA would probably argue if it came down to it.Actually, they are not using e-liquid or something like that, by the info in their websites, looks like it is in fact tobacco mixed with PG and VG, they are not extracting nicotine from tobacco, also the device can use any kind of herbs, so no drug/device combo and the intended purpose could be just vaporize any kind of plant material, while the FDA said the e-cigs are only for one main purpose: Use liquid nicotine in them, so that makes e-cigs according to the FDA a drug/device combo.
Yep, like I said, the trick is finding a medium for the liquid. Something absorbative anough to hold it without dripping or dribbling liquid into the works, that wouldn't melt or burn.Look at the possibilities of this device, maybe it is BT, maybe not, but at the end, you can get a small, reliable personal vaporizer that maybe with some modifications you can use with e-liquids and in an emergency you can use it with tobacco for $35, no batteries and no atomizers.
No, not entirely true. Smoke or not, tobacco itself contains carcinogens and other harmful chemicals. Plus, all but the very best vaporizers at least char some of the material, so there's almost always at least a tiny amount of smoke. Still, vaporized tobacco IS much, much better than smoked tobacco. But our vaporized liquids are much, much better still.I know a lot of people want to stay away from tobacco, but tobacco is not the problem, the problem is the smoke, vaporizing tobacco is a very good way to reduce harm.
Tired of waiting for this thing to drop. I want one!
$5.95 for a pack of 12 pods that last "5 to 10 minutes each, depending" etc.....
Yah. Just what I needed. Something that costs more than smoking analogs. Each pod is probably 1 cig worth of vapor, so to speak- at that price, you'd have to be rich- or just nuts.
I received a "Verify Your Subscription" email this morning.
They didn't send me one, and I'm sitting here ready to order but can't since I didn't receive the "invitation"
I signed up for "the list" in August.
They didn't send me one, and I'm sitting here ready to order but can't since I didn't receive the "invitation"
I signed up for "the list" in August.