The Pyrex SS hybrid Wick

[dsy5]

Thanks dsy5 I also spent a bit of time looking, and was hoping someone had better luck. Well we could always get some 24 or 26 gauge and take some hammers to it.

I did find some nichrome ribbon here

I found that, too. I was hoping to find something around 8Ω/ft. Due to newer developments, the tube may need to be shorter than originally planned, so a wrap or so may need to be eliminated.


I'm not privy to the material, Kanthal or NiChrome, either one will do. NiChrome is slightly higher in resistance than Kanthal, but not enough to matter, for me.

Edit: As pointed out by mre777, NiChrome is lower in resistance. (Gotta preview before hitting that save button)

 

[bstedh]

Breaktru and Craig will probably be all over that. lol

I can see it now, tubed wick with a ring of diodes around it producing a volcano of vapor! Should reduce the stress on the glass also as most of the heat should be directly transfered to the wick.

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[dsy5]

The tubing use has re-sparked an idea I had a while back. Now that we have a good target we may want to start looking at laser diodes instead of coils....

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Would they even produce any heat? They don't in themselves have a focused beam of light, without some sort of lens. Even the large lasers with big wattage numbers, although they get hot enough to burn skin, may not get hot enough to vaporize liquid.

 

[perlionsmitnick]

I can see it now, tubed wick with a ring of diodes around it producing a volcano of vapor! Should reduce the stress on the glass also as most of the heat should be directly transfered to the wick.

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Nice idea but I keep thinking darkening of the tube unless the light rays zap the walls clean.

 

[mre777]

I found that, too. I was hoping to find something around 8Ω/ft. Due to newer developments, the tube may need to be shorter than originally planned, so a wrap or so may need to be eliminated.


I'm not privy to the material, Kanthal or NiChrome, either one will do. NiChrome is slightly higher in resistance than Kanthal, but not enough to matter, for me.

I thought nichrome was a lower resistance than kanthal.

 

[BJ43]

I found that, too. I was hoping to find something around 8Ω/ft. Due to newer developments, the tube may need to be shorter than originally planned, so a wrap or so may need to be eliminated.


I'm not privy to the material, Kanthal or NiChrome, either one will do. NiChrome is slightly higher in resistance than Kanthal, but not enough to matter, for me.

RIBBON .020x.004" 10' (.5x.1mm 3m) HEATING FLAT WIRE | eBay

 

[mre777]

RIBBON .020x.004" 10' (.5x.1mm 3m) HEATING FLAT WIRE | eBay

That looks promising!

 

[VaporMizer]

The tubing use has re-sparked an idea I had a while back. Now that we have a good target we may want to start looking at laser diodes instead of coils....

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Woah! Laser Atomizer!! I think it should powered with Dilithium Crystals....or Anti Matter....or BOTH!! We're gonna need more blinky lights and stuff...

 

[dsy5]

I can see it now...

"New AGA-T, now with laser LED coil!"

 

[Oly6t1]

I'm very intrigued by the concept.
Even with the risk of the 3mm O.D.Pyrex subject to being superseded by these great minds at work.
I placed a order and went with Wale Apparatus preferred shipping suggestion of a jaw dropping $18.71
Now I have a good reason to replace my diamond wheel blade.

Looking forward to some experiments with the many different sized wire I have, or even some Silica Wick as well.

Many thanks Dan

Oly

 

[mre777]

I'm very intrigued by the concept.
Even with the risk of the 3mm O.D.Pyrex subject to being superseded by these great minds at work.
I placed a order and went with Wale Apparatus preferred shipping suggestion of a jaw dropping $18.71
Now I have a good reason to replace my diamond wheel blade.

Looking forward to some experiments with the many different sized wire I have, or even some Silica Wick as well.

Many thanks Dan

Oly

Yes I would also like to say thanks to Dan for sparking this R&D department for the betterment of vapers everywhere. Loads of info and lots of people working on this idea. When the mail man finally gets done with his rounds the results will be pouring in and ideas will be exchanged for refinement so thanks to Dan and here is to the innovation of the ScubaQu system!

 

[dsy5]

That looks promising!

That could work, but it is only slightly over 1/64" wide - resistance is better though. However, would only be able to get 3 or 4 wraps @ 2Ω (off the top of my head); not a lot of coverage at 1/64". I would like to find some at around .040" or 1/32" at around 8Ω, a bit more coverage.

Edit: Actually calculated this stuff: It apears that to get 2Ω, it would take about 6 or seven wraps. That may be good; 7 wraps would span approx. 6.5mm - 7mm if the wraps were spaced 1/64" apart. Still fairly small width stuff. though

Disclaimer: YMWV

 

[speedemon]

I'm very interested in trying this any one gonna do a group buy on the tubes.

 

[BJ43]

That could work, but it is only slightly over 1/64" wide - resistance is better though. However, would only be able to get 3 or 4 wraps @ 2Ω (off the top of my head); not a lot of coverage at 1/64". I would like to find some at around .040" or 1/32" at around 8Ω, a bit more coverage.

Let us know if you find some...

 

[dsy5]

Let us know if you find some...

See my OP edit on this.

Someone posted at one point a link to a supplier that had 1/32" @ somewhere around 8Ω; I did not bookmark it and I'll be damned if I can find it again! All I can remember is that the site had a black background to it (yeah, I know; that's a lot of help). I'm going to try to track this down - I don't remember if it was posted in this thread or not (old age is catching up).

 

[BJ43]

See my OP edit on this.

I ordered some a few days ago so will post when I try it, still waiting for my tubing to get here also.

 

[dsy5]

That could work, but it is only slightly over 1/64" wide - resistance is better though. However, would only be able to get 3 or 4 wraps @ 2Ω (off the top of my head); not a lot of coverage at 1/64". I would like to find some at around .040" or 1/32" at around 8Ω, a bit more coverage.

Edit: Actually calculated this stuff: It apears that to get 2Ω, it would take about 6 or seven wraps. That may be good; 7 wraps would span approx. 6.5mm - 7mm if the wraps were spaced 1/64" apart. Still fairly small width stuff. though

These calculations are crude; it assumes the circumference of a 3mm tube and based on the Ω/mm. It doesn't take into acount the diagonal position that wire takes while wrapping down a length of wick/tube. The results can only be proven by an actual wrap. Since I don't have the tubing nor the resistance ribbon to accurately report this, your mileage will vary!

Hopefully, when BJ43 gets his supplies, he can give us a more accurate measurement.

 

[gdeal]

These calculations are crude; it assumes the circumference of a 3mm tube and based on the Ω/mm. It doesn't take into acount the diagonal position that wire takes while wrapping down a length of wick/tube. The results can only be proven by an actual wrap. Since I don't have the tubing nor the resistance ribbon to accurately report this, your mileage will vary!

Hopefully, when BJ43 gets his supplies, he can give us a more accurate measurement.

Try: PV Web Apps

 

[dsy5]

I thought nichrome was a lower resistance than kanthal.

You are absolutely right; my bad there. Need to read what I'm typing before posting.

 

[dsy5]

Try: PV Web Apps

Thanks for that link; good stuff there. Not sure if the wire calculator will accurately compute ribbon wire, due to the physical differences, maybe if it took into account the cross-sectional area or width instead of diameter or you had a choice for ribbon...

I would think that only a real-world wrap can confirm this.