The rare legitimate question for provari owners.

[EddardinWinter]

Saving really I am. Not for a Provari but for a Gi2. Those things are $300 but I think it's the future of vaping. For us sub-ohm builders anyway.
https://bevapehappy.com/shop/preorder-gi2-70-watt-mod-by-grand-innovations/

I cannot see building a coil that can support 100 Watts...but that mod is pretty cool!

I am truly hoping ProVari V3 will step the power limits up to 30 watts or so, but of course if they did, I might abandon my mechs...and that would be shame.

 

[FearTX]

I cannot see building a coil that can support 100 Watts...but that mod is pretty cool!

I am truly hoping ProVari V3 will step the power limits up to 30 watts or so, but of course if they did, I might abandon my mechs...and that would be shame.

There would be a sad rack of Gus, MM, Atmizoo, some USA stuff, etc. But yeah, probably at least till that damn shiny bug bit me again.

 

[beckdg]

It's a more accurate test than any other device does. The DNA30 chipset basically makes an educated guess at remaining battery charge time. How many times have you checked your battery on the ProVari and seen it appear as, say, 3.6v, then drop to 3.4v as it tested under load? I have, lots of times.

i see what you're saying. and for some people, i'm sure that gives them more of a real time estimate of when their battery is going to hit low voltage cutoff under load. but electrically speaking, it's just not an accurate test of either load state.

for me, personally, since i have an electronics background from a hobby perspective, i'm very comfortable estimating remaining charge state from either end of the load state. but somewhere in the middle leaves me personally guessing whether the battery is going to drop further during a 4 to 6 second mouth to lung or lung hit.

i'm sure i'll get used to it over time and learn to estimate when my battery is going to die very well. for now, though, i have quite a few different ways to test a batteries voltage and all of them test at resting voltage or under full charge or discharge load in real time. i can read one and it tells the whole story or understand that the other needs compensation for a .2V or .3V drop under load and compensate.

when the provari starts @ 3.9V and drops to 3.7V under load test, i'm not sure it's not going to drop to 3.6V during a hit. for me, that doesn't help at all. leaves me guesstimating and questioning.

though, really it doesn't affect the function of the mod at all. it's just a point that was brought up in the discussion. i'm still in love with my prothingy... and especially the wifes. security is a function when it comes to finances... and hopefully she doesn't divide by zero and somehow break it. she's got talent at times.

 

[Gato del Jugo]

Yeah.

I just don't see $159 for a quality mod to be that expensive.

Apparently the Innokin 134 Mini recently debuted at $160...

Sure, it comes with a X.1 clearo.. and sure, it will eventually drop a few bucks as time marches on


But for the same price as a base-model ProVari??

All set with that...

 

[DebbyHolda]

People who post threads like this about the Provari often remind me of the story from Aesop's Fables about the fox and the grape. From Wikipedia this is basically the moral of the story:

"Driven by hunger, a fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on the vine but was unable to, although he leaped with all his strength. As he went away, the fox remarked 'Oh, you aren't even ripe yet! I don't need any sour grapes.' People who speak disparagingly of things that they cannot attain would do well to apply this story to themselves."

 

[p.opus]

Apparently the Innokin 134 Mini recently debuted at $160...

Sure, it comes with a X.1 clearo.. and sure, it will eventually drop a few bucks as time marches on


But for the same price as a base-model ProVari??

All set with that...

I almost bought one. Then I saw two reviews that slaughtered the threads between the control head and the battery tubes. They said it's a real pain to go from 18350 to 18500 mode.

Also I prefer the ability to use 18650's with a standard ProVari....

But yeah. $159.00 is not all that expensive any more and I just have think that all the "it's to expensive" hate is just troll bait.

 

[p.opus]

for the record, i highly, highly doubt it's the battery sagging under load in the MVP II. just like the provari performs better than the chinese mods with the same battery installed, it's the chip that can't handle the load configuration. that battery can certainly handle the load which is evidenced by the fact that 2 days after the performance on the unit lacks, the battery still fires the atty. at this time the batteries internal resistance would be doubled or tripled by the very nature of a battery whose charge state is severely depleted.

Actually that's what I meant. I'm sure the battery is fine. But the regulation circuitry can't keep up with a continuous load.

 

[Sirius]

I almost bought one. Then I saw two reviews that slaughtered the threads between the control head and the battery tubes. They said it's a real pain to go from 18350 to 18500 mode.

Also I prefer the ability to use 18650's with a standard ProVari....

But yeah. $159.00 is not all that expensive any more and I just have think that all the "it's to expensive" hate is just troll bait.

Like I said, if I had a disposable income to just try one. Provari just doesn't fit my criteria for what I use a mod for. Sub ohms and low ohms. I'm about to fork over that much for a mechanical bottom feeder that does fit my needs. Not really a lot to pay if it's something I can use, but to just try one out? Way to much imo.

 

[ENAUD]

Troll threads were definitely an influence in my deciding to get a Provari. ( I read through them and actually learned quite a bit about the device that I was previously unaware of.)
Today my wife ordered it actually, she really wants me to keep vaping
I actually held and vaped my neighbors at a Christmas party. My first impression was, meh, not really impressed with the menu button. I've got my Lavatube V2.5 and two MVP's presently, and a couple of mechs. After reading through a few of these threads, I started to become aware of the fact that all they did was reinforce the values of what I wanted in a device, mainly reliability. I can build a coil that will vape just fine on my Altoids box mod if I want to, but VV is great for fine tuning a flavor.
I started DIY'in, and have ample supply for quite a while, but I need a device that I can hopefully count on for the long run. As variable devices go, I have only read overwhelming support for Provape products by a bunch of different folks.
So yes, I was influenced by threads like this, and months of doing homework to decide if it was a good "fit" for me.

PS, one of my devices is the third one under warranty, and another has a funky center pin issue, and one of my mech mod clones the threads are crap and worn out after about 4 months. I am tired of buying disposable stuff.

 

[p.opus]

Troll threads were definitely an influence in my deciding to get a Provari. ( I read through them and actually learned quite a bit about the device that I was previously unaware of.)
Today my wife ordered it actually, she really wants me to keep vaping
I actually held and vaped my neighbors at a Christmas party. My first impression was, meh, not really impressed with the menu button. I've got my Lavatube V2.5....

Kind of interested in the Lavatube....Not because I want one. But I'm interested in why they get almost ignored here. Did you have issues with yours. Is there something going on with them that prevents widespread adoption? I'm just interested because it is one of the few chinese made products where you get a full year warranty and it seems ignored....curious.

 

[ENAUD]

Kind of interested in the Lavatube....Not because I want one. But I'm interested in why they get almost ignored here. Did you have issues with yours. Is there something going on with them that prevents widespread adoption? I'm just interested because it is one of the few chinese made products where you get a full year warranty and it seems ignored....curious.

I really like mine. Original was the V2.0, two of those went haywire on me. The V2.5 has VV and VW, and also includes a VRMS mode
( spelling) that reduces the rattlesnake quite a bit! 80$ with a one year warranty, and they are great at exchanging them if it goes bad. Also toggle up/down buttons for adjustment and checks( batt V, ohms/res) nice flat easy to press button. I am liking the V2.5

 

[ENAUD]

Opus, I also have a brick and mortar only 25 miles drive, so on that note I feel pretty lucky...( no down time)

 

[p.opus]

South Florida is loaded with them, but you pay....

$25.00 for a ProTank 2,
$80 for a zmax v3.
$70 for an MVP2.

Not cheap.

I even have factory authorized ProVari vendors near by. I stay out of those. I'm up to three ProVari's in a month. Don't need to spend any more.....

 

[Gato del Jugo]

I'm up to three ProVari's in a month. Don't need to spend any more -- until next month, when I get my 4th.....

J/K


Yeah, 2 is good.. Even 3 is fine...

I really don't understand why people have 4 or more (for 1 person)... I saw a photo here at ECF from somebody who had NINE!


Even if I had the money, I don't see the reasoning or desire for 4+ ProVarii...

At some point, it's like, okay, enough.. Time to list a few on the classies & pick up something different like a nice mech or DNA or something

No?

 

[RIMP]

First off, I'm not going to ask you to justify your purchase (like most/all provari threads seem to). If you are happy with your pv, I'm happy for you. I'm not here to poke you with a stick, but I will admit that part of the purpose of this thread is to see if someone else actually needs to be poked with a stick.

I want you to ask yourself something... How many of you bought your provari about the same time as one of those "why did you trade your firstborn child for a provari" threads. How many bought one after a few provari owners essentially either told someone "buy a provari, you'll eventually do it anyway", "it's no more 'just a battery tube', than a Porsche is just a car" or something else along those lines.

I'm not speculating that any of the provari owners around here are witting shills, or stating that provape is manipuating ecf members in a slick distributed ad campaign that conditions you to be their deployed marketing team (but, if they are... it's devious enough that Palpatine would be jealous). I'm not even going to point a finger at a reseller... I just want you to consider how many people actually buy provaris as a direct result of those threads, as I note at least one or two posters saying they just ordered within those threads that I have read (ostensibly as a direct result of multitudes of fervently loyal provari owners coming out of the woodwork, to provide passionate testimonials).

I'm not saying you've been hoodwinked, or that you have been consciously hoodwinking others... I'm not saying that the provari is a bad purchase, either. I'm not debating the relative value of the provari, as that goes outside of the scope of this thread.

But, with this being the largest ecig forum... In conjunction with the startling regularity of those threads... It has to be doing wonders for their branding awareness, and as a result sales.

I'm more interested in exploring if it is merely trolls yanking your chain, or merchants tugging at your (and other's) collective wallets.

I felt the same way as you.......till I bought one
I have 2 of them.....ALWAYS have backup

 

[Criticalmass]

I cannot see building a coil that can support 100 Watts...but that mod is pretty cool!

I am truly hoping ProVari V3 will step the power limits up to 30 watts or so, but of course if they did, I might abandon my mechs...and that would be shame.

Like I said before, at 100 watts you might as well dump juice on your head and stick your finger in a light socket.

sent from my Limited Edition Monkey Island Talking Voodoo Doll Head named Murray

 

[DPLongo22]

Like I said before, at 100 watts you might as well dump juice on your head and stick your finger in a light socket.

sent from my Limited Edition Monkey Island Talking Voodoo Doll Head named Murray

Hmmm? Have you got a coupon code for that?

 

[FearTX]

Like I said before, at 100 watts you might as well dump juice on your head and stick your finger in a light socket.

sent from my Limited Edition Monkey Island Talking Voodoo Doll Head named Murray

I just pour juice on my chest and connect battery cables to my piercings. Talk about clouds......

 

[ENAUD]

South Florida is loaded with them, but you pay....

$25.00 for a ProTank 2,
$80 for a zmax v3.
$70 for an MVP2.

Not cheap.

I even have factory authorized ProVari vendors near by. I stay out of those. I'm up to three ProVari's in a month. Don't need to spend any more.....

As per the prices, I chalk it up to the retail overhead. As to your original question, I have wondered the same about why no love for the Lavatube?
I've only found two B&M nearby, and neither stocks Provape products. One is Valcano, the other an independent with innoken and smoke tech heavy in their offerings. The one year warranty was the big selling point for me, at 80$ that's only $1.53 per week for a regulated mod...

 

[Nermal]

If my Provari gets struck by lightning, I hope it's on the picnic table while I'm cutting grass or doing something far away. If not, would I really care?

Eeyeah. If it happened to be in your shirt pocket, warranty coverage sounds somewhat irrelevant.