Thought I had Heard It All

[twgbonehead]

About the same as you can draw *through* a car battery.

Yet if you inhale the air *around* it you can feel the smell.

I hope you realize that the type of battery in your picture is called a "Lead-Acid" battery for a good reason, right?
That's because it's made of lead plates, suspended in a bath of hydrochloric acid. You know, "Battery Acid" which is the stuff gangsters throw in their enemies' girlfriends' faces.

It's got absolutely no relevance whatsoever to the batteries used in PV's, any more than the combustion products of a coal plant relate to the output of a nuclear reactor.

ETA: "Feel the smell"?????

 

[sub4me]

Lol.

 

[Rat2chat2]

The medical profession sure is well informed when it is accompanied with a pharmaceutical kickback but does not take the time to offer reliable information on a healthier alternative to smoking. Just makes me

. It took 40 some years and a puff of water vapor to convince me to quit smoking. I will be gone by the time today's claim are substantiated. I just hope vaping or whatever comes out next is there for our grandchildren's kiddos and that one day cigarettes will be as hard to find and a honest politician.

 

[Bernard Marx]

I loved those little suckers, but now I prefer vaping, or at least not killing myself quite so quickly. I can't imagine what one would taste like now after a year. When I pass by a smoker I smell and am actually horrified at the idea of that slippery smoke creeping into my body. I must have been quite a masochist. Seep, seep. choke, cough seep, choke. cough. But what a nice bell head for a minute or two. Then stink, cough, stink, stink, cough ...two more hours to the next break!

 

[WattWick]

Don't vape using lead/acid batteries, folks!

Not vaping related, really... it is about doctors, tho. Had a visit to one a few years ago for some chest pains. He checked my breathing and simply told me I should consider smoking less. Needless to say I've never visited that doctor again. Turned out it wasn't more serious than two bruised ribs. Which I never figured how I got.

 

[catalinaflyer]

I'm so lucky, my Dr vaped herself so not much argument from her when I used vaping to quit smoking. I knew she had been a smoker but she never smelled liked it. Of course when I was smoking I didn't smell like it either, or at least that's what I tell myself.

Anyway last July I went in for my 6 month physical (yes I have to get one every 6 months for work) and she remarked how much better my lungs sound and asked if I had quit smoking. I said "sort of" and pulled a VTR with a carto tank out of my pocket. She smiled and excused herself for a minute and came back in with an eGo and iclear 16. We then discussed where we get juice and flavors, nic (she was at 3mg, I was at 12). She has since quit and I'm at 3mg. She admitted that not smoking, vaping or inhaling anything is the best for health but she's all about using anything other than Chantix to quit smoking.

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[Hulamoon]

Nah, don't worry about it. Our microwave ovens boiled our brains years ago. Battery acid and radiation? No problem.

Sucking in battery acid from vaporizer and radiation to the brain from my cellphone is not looking good for my long term health. LOL

 

[Hulamoon]

What do you call the useless medical student who graduated dead last in his class?




"Doctor"


There are a few good'uns............... and a whole barrel full of nitwits.

Don't vape using lead/acid batteries, folks!

Not vaping related, really... it is about doctors, tho. Had a visit to one a few years ago for some chest pains. He checked my breathing and simply told me I should consider smoking less. Needless to say I've never visited that doctor again. Turned out it wasn't more serious than two bruised ribs. Which I never figured how I got.

 

[caramel]

I hope you realize that the type of battery in your picture is called a "Lead-Acid" battery for a good reason, right?

It's also called "sealed" and obviously it's not perfect.

There's no such thing as a perfectly sealed battery.

 

[rurwin]

That's because it's made of lead plates, suspended in a bath of hydrochloric acid.

Sulphuric acid, actually. Not that it makes any difference, except that blue stuff in the picture is probably copper sulphate.

 

[ian-field]

I think it's like when you're talking to a 3 year old, trying to get them to stop doing something. Jack Frost isn't really going to come and get them if they don't go to bed, but the literal truth isn't important. Some doctors really do think they are that much smarter than their patients.

The lady I was talking to didn't have enough technical savvy to understand how ridiculous the battery acid thing was.

My doc thinks it's great that I stopped smoking. He didn't say what he thought about ecigs.

Same here - I was heartily congratulated for making the switch to e-cigs.

There seems to be a growing consensus among the medical profession that vaping is saving millions of lives.

Any downsides they know of are too trivial to risk ruining a good thing.

 

[AndriaD]

Same here - I was heartily congratulated for making the switch to e-cigs.

There seems to be a growing consensus among the medical profession that vaping is saving millions of lives.

Any downsides they know of are too trivial to risk ruining a good thing.

Yeah, among the intelligent questions my doc asked me was, is it like NRT, where you do it for a while and then stop? I told him that some do, some dont, because it's actually a direct replacement, and considering that I smoked for 3/4 of my life (39 yrs out of 53) I was in no hurry to give them up. He nodded and agreed that that was probably wise.

Andria

 

[Rizzyking]

After over thirty years of tobacco twenty with my currant gp he nearly did cart wheels when I said I had switched to ecigs and congratulated me for sticking with it and most vapers I talk too in the UK have had similar reactions from their gp. We do have our idiot gp's but they are mainly the lazy type who can't be bothered to read up on this new fangled thing that came after the wheel. A friend who lived in the US for a longtime said the advice you'll get on some issues from doctors has more to do with the financial support they or their clinic\hospital receive rather then what's best for the patient I don't know if it's true or if he was spouting air but some of what I read about US doctors does make me wonder.

 

[BuddJohnson]

It's unfortunate to see our medical profession co-opted by the greedy pharmaceutical companies. The profession has morphed and alot of Doctors have become pharmaceutical drug dealers... and we know ecigs stand in the way of pharmaceutical company profits, so expect more gibberish to be spread from their pulpits.
If you need further convincing on the state of the profession, I would highly suggest you view this one hour lecture from Marcia Angell, M.D. former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDbQNBla6aU

In my local experiences, every person I have talked to in medical fields agrees that ecigs are safer than cigarettes, but as we are seeing, the ca-ca is beginning to flow downwards.

 

[englishmick]

After over thirty years of tobacco twenty with my currant gp he nearly did cart wheels when I said I had switched to ecigs and congratulated me for sticking with it and most vapers I talk too in the UK have had similar reactions from their gp. We do have our idiot gp's but they are mainly the lazy type who can't be bothered to read up on this new fangled thing that came after the wheel. A friend who lived in the US for a longtime said the advice you'll get on some issues from doctors has more to do with the financial support they or their clinic\hospital receive rather then what's best for the patient I don't know if it's true or if he was spouting air but some of what I read about US doctors does make me wonder.

The health care system in America is beyond the comprehension of anyone not born here. Like baseball.

 

[AndriaD]

After over thirty years of tobacco twenty with my currant gp he nearly did cart wheels when I said I had switched to ecigs and congratulated me for sticking with it and most vapers I talk too in the UK have had similar reactions from their gp. We do have our idiot gp's but they are mainly the lazy type who can't be bothered to read up on this new fangled thing that came after the wheel. A friend who lived in the US for a longtime said the advice you'll get on some issues from doctors has more to do with the financial support they or their clinic\hospital receive rather then what's best for the patient I don't know if it's true or if he was spouting air but some of what I read about US doctors does make me wonder.

In many case it's true; doctors will push pills that they're getting a kickback on. Or, in today's world, tell people that vaping is worse than smoking, because BP wants them to push useless NRT instead of vaping.

But some doctors can't be bought -- I'm thinking older docs are better, because they've finished paying off their student loans.

Andria

 

[wheelie]

My doc's all on board with it..he reads the current literature about it, and while he's aware we just don't know and are learning, it's way better than smoking. My dentist too, he gave me a resounding "good for you" when I told him, seems it's way healthier on the gums and teeth too.

print him out some info and educate him, unless he's one of those "arrogant I know it all" ones..and then I just leave those alone, my grandma always told me "never argue with a fence post baby" and she was never wrong. *lol*

What that? Sounds like a pet Rooster. LOL

 

[rurwin]

If you need further convincing on the state of the profession, I would highly suggest you view this one hour lecture from Marcia Angell, M.D. former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDbQNBla6aU

This Book is also eye-opening
Bad Pharma: How Medicine is Broken, And How We Can Fix It -- Ben Goldacre

 

[ian-field]

In many case it's true; doctors will push pills that they're getting a kickback on. Or, in today's world, tell people that vaping is worse than smoking, because BP wants them to push useless NRT instead of vaping.

But some doctors can't be bought -- I'm thinking older docs are better, because they've finished paying off their student loans.

Andria

I wouldn't say NRT is useless - the Quickmist oral spray works well but its very expensive and there's a strict time limit on the government sponsored quit scheme.

 

[Amraann]

In many case it's true; doctors will push pills that they're getting a kickback on. Or, in today's world, tell people that vaping is worse than smoking, because BP wants them to push useless NRT instead of vaping.

But some doctors can't be bought -- I'm thinking older docs are better, because they've finished paying off their student loans.

Andria

Although I agree with what you posted I think it is not alwys about kickbacks. I think the majority of the time Dr's get their information from a Pharmacutical rep who visits their office and leaves samples, telling the Dr how their latest greatest new drug will cure whatever better than the other Pharmacutical companies medication.