Titanium wire, vaping and safety
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I'm using Spider Silk, but mainly just because that was one of the first US vendors I found and I had seen Twisted420 using it. I agree it's pricey, and plan to order from Unkamen next. Spider Silk is also kind of limiting since it's only 26g.
As far as a warmer vape, I might be putting my foot in my mouth, but temperature is temperature. The only difference would be in whatever TCR/curve/whateveryouwanttocallit the mod used for Ni vs. Ti. I haven't used any mods that actually have a Ti mode, so I can't really speak to that.
For me I noticed that 26awg nickel built to around.07 was warmer then I like but that is just me I used 28awg nickel for that reason with Ti I use 26awg at around .27 and get about the same heat I did with the 28awg Ni. I'm not really into a warm to hot vape. I get my Ti here.
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Not really true. Even for the same coil diameter/wraps with same guage wire, the coil masses will be different for Ti and Ni200, heat capacity is different, resistivity is different. Ramp time is different etc etc. In fact they are really not comparable in any useful way. If you build a Ti and Ni coil of same resistance and set the same temperature, the vape will feel different (in this case, the wraps and guage etc will be different). So there is a big effect from how the heat from a coil at any given temp is delivered, if you like, to the juice!
that was ordered prior to me using 10m in 8 weeks of 26
and prior to @tchavei declaring his long life zivipf coils
yes it was nuts them forgetting to post and not being able to supply tracking as I paid extra for recorded delivery ..... never again
Oh jeez that sucks, sorry! They do sometimes give off the air of being a bit disorganised. So far as I can tell, it's basically one manager - Chris, the guy I spoke to re Titanium and have talked to a couple of times since - leading a bunch of junior/apprentice guys who operate the machines. I believe Chris does absolutely everything besides actually cutting the wire, so perhaps oversight/procedure can slip a bit sometimes.
Chris still hasn't put the Titanium tech specs online. When I emailed him 9 or so days ago, he said he "just hadn't had time" to put it on the site, but would do so "soon". Then on Friday they sent out their usual weekly promotional emails, mentioning their new Titanium gauges, and it said "Please contact us if you want a data sheet." So I sent him another email on Friday afternoon, saying I understood if he was too busy to do the site but could he just send me the data sheet as mentioned in the email. Haven't heard back as yet, though I did send it near end of business Friday. Perhaps I'll hear back Monday.
I also think they make lives harder for themselves, and customers, by having so many separate and unconnected websites. There's the main Crazy Wire, which is the general site with all sorts of sections including Vaping. But then there's also the separate sites - one for mesh, one for crafts, and the vaping site Vape Atomizer Mesh site. Each of those sites specialises, providing a separate site equivalent to one category of the main site. That's fine, except each niche site is completely separate to the point of have slightly different products, and separate stock levels to the main site. Spools can be in stock at one site but out at the other. I understand having different sites to appeal to different markets, but not why they operate four different sets of stock and stock levels. It would appear they have no centralisation on the sites, so they have to manually update each site individually, and don't do the best job of keeping them in sync. It's frustrating placing an order at one site and finding things out of stock, then realising later they were in stock at the other - especially as placing two orders would involve two delivery charges.
And there's some obvious errors in their descriptions which have gone uncorrected for months - for example, they describe SS317L 0.45mm wire as 17G instead of 25G, and it's been like that since they first listed it in April or May. It's a simple typo, but they just don't seem to keep an eye on and fix such things.
I wonder if their business has grown hugely and they've been slow on taking on new staff to cope. I hope they buck up their operations, because they have a huge range of good wire at excellent prices. But they need to be able to provide the service to match.
All that said, I do think you got very unlucky. I've placed six orders from them over the course of a few months - four from Crazy Wire, two from Vape Atomizer Mesh - and I think four arrived next day, one took two days, and the sixth took three days. I placed my seventh order on Friday - one of the new Titanium spools, some Ni200, 304 Stainless Steel and a spool of 17G Kanthal for high power testing. So I'll see how this one goes.
I'm in the process of comparing my new Stealth Vape spools with Crazy Wire. So far I have to say I cannot find any significant difference at all. They both require a little cleaning and I find them almost identically springy (I coiled a few micro coils and measured their resulting ID.) The only difference I've found is that where Stealth Vape's 26G/0.40mm is precisely 0.40mm, Crazy Wire's is 0.39mm.
I'll post a detailed comparison of all wires once I've received the 3FVape and the Unkamen (sp?) samples that @Madnapali has kindly sent me. By that point I'll have Titanium from Zivipf, Crazy Wire, Stealth Vape, 3FVape and Unkamen. Germany, UK (x2), China and US all represented!
Chris still hasn't put the Titanium tech specs online. When I emailed him 9 or so days ago, he said he "just hadn't had time" to put it on the site, but would do so "soon". Then on Friday they sent out their usual weekly promotional emails, mentioning their new Titanium gauges, and it said "Please contact us if you want a data sheet." So I sent him another email on Friday afternoon, saying I understood if he was too busy to do the site but could he just send me the data sheet as mentioned in the email. Haven't heard back as yet, though I did send it near end of business Friday. Perhaps I'll hear back Monday.
I also think they make lives harder for themselves, and customers, by having so many separate and unconnected websites. There's the main Crazy Wire, which is the general site with all sorts of sections including Vaping. But then there's also the separate sites - one for mesh, one for crafts, and the vaping site Vape Atomizer Mesh site. Each of those sites specialises, providing a separate site equivalent to one category of the main site. That's fine, except each niche site is completely separate to the point of have slightly different products, and separate stock levels to the main site. Spools can be in stock at one site but out at the other. I understand having different sites to appeal to different markets, but not why they operate four different sets of stock and stock levels. It would appear they have no centralisation on the sites, so they have to manually update each site individually, and don't do the best job of keeping them in sync. It's frustrating placing an order at one site and finding things out of stock, then realising later they were in stock at the other - especially as placing two orders would involve two delivery charges.
And there's some obvious errors in their descriptions which have gone uncorrected for months - for example, they describe SS317L 0.45mm wire as 17G instead of 25G, and it's been like that since they first listed it in April or May. It's a simple typo, but they just don't seem to keep an eye on and fix such things.
I wonder if their business has grown hugely and they've been slow on taking on new staff to cope. I hope they buck up their operations, because they have a huge range of good wire at excellent prices. But they need to be able to provide the service to match.
All that said, I do think you got very unlucky. I've placed six orders from them over the course of a few months - four from Crazy Wire, two from Vape Atomizer Mesh - and I think four arrived next day, one took two days, and the sixth took three days. I placed my seventh order on Friday - one of the new Titanium spools, some Ni200, 304 Stainless Steel and a spool of 17G Kanthal for high power testing. So I'll see how this one goes.
I'm in the process of comparing my new Stealth Vape spools with Crazy Wire. So far I have to say I cannot find any significant difference at all. They both require a little cleaning and I find them almost identically springy (I coiled a few micro coils and measured their resulting ID.) The only difference I've found is that where Stealth Vape's 26G/0.40mm is precisely 0.40mm, Crazy Wire's is 0.39mm.
I'll post a detailed comparison of all wires once I've received the 3FVape and the Unkamen (sp?) samples that @Madnapali has kindly sent me. By that point I'll have Titanium from Zivipf, Crazy Wire, Stealth Vape, 3FVape and Unkamen. Germany, UK (x2), China and US all represented!
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That's a very good point, you will have to adjust the build to get your desired vape. My point was more that you should be able to get your desired vape from either (though obviously, most of us here are going to prefer Ti). 400F is the same as 400F as far as the ACTUAL temperature. Obviously, we know the temperature that's being read by the mod is not necessarily going to be the ACTUAL temperature.
Then again I never really got a successful vape from Ni200, though I'm pretty sure that was due to my wicking and not as much of a fault of the wire.
Well they were talking about Ni vs Ti wire about how hard it is to use Ti. Thought I'd do an experiment since I haven't been using nickel for a while. Well my 1 month old Ti coil that has been rewicked and cleaned tasted everybit as good as the new nickel. I use the same sort of coil Ti 26awg 5 wraps spaced 3mm Ni 28awg 5 wraps spaced 3mm. Ti .275 Ni .075. I was kindo wondering if it was making my shortness of breath worse but I don't think thats it.
I will keep using the Ni till it needs rewicking and cleaning and see if it makes any diff since I put my fave flavor in it and use it the most.
The IPV4S is not a bad device. It fixed most problems of the original IPV4. Now the firmware includes a Ti setting .
I have been using my Ti builds often in the Ni setting with the temp reduced 100f or so and find that i get a much more satisfactory vape than on the Ti setting on an Evic.. Using the X-Cube II for which I do not yet have the software that will provide a Ti curve I have been running my Velocity and other RDA's on the Ni setting and the performance is fabulous, Temp protection still will kick in to prevent burnt hits so I am satisfied that this is a very good compremize to achieve a nice warm flavorful vape with titanium. I have left nickel and not satisfactory for my RDA's and now mainly use NI only in coil heads on a couple of tanks. I have an Evic, an IPV4S and the X-Cube II and they are all great in TC. I rarely use watts mode or Kanthal anymore. Your experiences may differ but this has been my personal explorations over the past several months since I got the Evic, my first TC device, in early May.
And me thinking that 2 and a half weeks was a long time, from the UK to Italy..that was ordered prior to me using 10m in 8 weeks of 26
and prior to @tchavei declaring his long life zivipf coils
yes it was nuts them forgetting to post and not being able to supply tracking as I paid extra for recorded delivery ..... never again
Also in my case I had to keep on hammering on them because the 'package sent' notification was nowhere to be seen, some 3 working days after the order.. Never received the tracking number I did pay for, but after some 17 days I've eventually received the goods anyway. Hell, one piece (out of 2) was wrong. F**k it, I just kept it as it was.
It will take a huge leap of faith (or dire need) for me to order again from them.. Sorry about the rant, but it may save someone else some discomfort.
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If I was to wrap a coil of NI200 to equal the resistance of Ti it would be about 40 wraps.
That is crazy, I ordered the same stuff from Vape Mesh and got it in the States in a week and a half. Didn't have the fancy lableling it was written with a felt pen but it was fast.
Of course. It's comparing apples and oranges. My point was that the vape can feel very different depending on the build!
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