Titanium wire, vaping and safety

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I also wondered about trying solder - drop some lengths of solder down the hole, heat until they melt up to the right level. It's a pretty permanent solution of course. And would require that either the positive doesn't use a plastic/rubber insulator, or that it can be removed first. (Or I suppose some PEEK insulators might be able to withstand 200°C or so, just enough to get the solder melted.) But a rod is probably a lot easier!

That's what I was thinking, a blob of solder in the hole. They make a silver based solder for high-end audio equipment. It's super conductive and seems to have a lower melting point compared with regular solder.
 
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That's what I was thinking, a blob of solder in the hole. They make a silver based solder for high-end audio equipment. It's super conductive and seems to have a lower melting point compared with regular solder.
I wonder how pure it is and what's in there besides silver. Pure silver doesn't have a lower melting point than solder I think?

It's however an splendid idea to use in my next build. I wonder how better the resistance reading will be using silver solder on the connections between a board (like the dna 200) and a 510 connector.

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I wonder how pure it is and what's in there besides silver. Pure silver doesn't have a lower melting point than solder I think?

It's however an splendid idea to use in my next build. I wonder how better the resistance reading will be using silver solder on the connections between a board (like the dna 200) and a 510 connector.

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I was mistaken about the melting point of silver solder vs regular solder. Looking at this UK vendor Cup Alloys - Low Temp Silver Solder - www.cupalloys.co.uk ,
it appears that "low temp" silver solder has a lower melt pt. vis-a-vis other types of silver solder, not regular solder.

I only used it once to help a friend replace a resistor in his hi-end audio amp. He insisted that we needed to use this expensive silver solder which felt much softer than regular solder. Those audio nuts are really over the top. Speaker wires 2 inches thick, iron bricks to "soak up stray RF radiation", etc.
 
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I wonder how pure it is and what's in there besides silver. Pure silver doesn't have a lower melting point than solder I think?

It's however an splendid idea to use in my next build. I wonder how better the resistance reading will be using silver solder on the connections between a board (like the dna 200) and a 510 connector.

Yeah it'd be interesting if it made a measurable difference. Though one nice thing about the DNA 200 is that it doesn't matter - through eScribe you can enter the 'mod resistance', so whatever the resistance of the wiring/510, you can program it into the chip such that it's automatically removed from all resistance readings/TC calculations.

A nice feature. But it did make me wonder if all self-built DNA 40 and SX350J mods are automatically slightly less accurate than the pre-built professional mods using the same chips, because hopefully manufacturers were able to enter the static mod resistance into the chip (or at least pass the figure to the chip company to enter it for them), where end users were not. I don't know about Yihi, but it sounds like the sort of thing that Evolv would have enabled for their big customers, evidenced by them having the feature exposed in the 200.

Actually it'll also be an interesting way to see how thorough a DNA 200 manufacturer is - if one buys a pre-built 200, check if they entered a mod resistance value in eScribe. If they didn't, they suck :)
 
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If you're going to use solder to fill post holes I'd suggest using plumbing style solder. At least is it "safe" in terms of its' chemistry. It does have a higher melting point which actually isn't a bad thing although vaping occurs at temps lower than most solder melt points anyway.
 

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If you're going to use solder to fill post holes I'd suggest using plumbing style solder. At least is it "safe" in terms of its' chemistry. It does have a higher melting point which actually isn't a bad thing although vaping occurs at temps lower than most solder melt points anyway.

By plumbing style solder do you mean standard 60/40 Tin/Lead? Or is there something different for plumbing?

At the moment I have multi-core 60/40 Loctite solder in 0.5m, and some no-brand multi-core 60/40 in 1mm.
 

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I just received my first Ti wire and I have a couple of questions.

I have Spider Silk. It says it's specially cleaned. Does that mean I don't need to clean it with alcohol before use?

More importantly, can Ti be tension wound? I use an artistic coil winding gizmo for my kanthal coils. Should I bother using it for the Ti or will it just snap it?
 

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I just received my first Ti wire and I have a couple of questions.

I have Spider Silk. It says it's specially cleaned. Does that mean I don't need to clean it with alcohol before use?

More importantly, can Ti be tension wound? I use an artistic coil winding gizmo for my kanthal coils. Should I bother using it for the Ti or will it just snap it?
I tension wrap my Ti coils but mostly just from habit. I tension wrapped Ni coils too because they seemed to handle being fit on the atty better than non tension coils. When I moved to Ti, I just went straight to the gizmo and didn't try anything else. I've convinced myself they'll hold up better to vigorous cleaning this way but I have no proof as I've not tested it.
 

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Oh wow, that thing looks hardcore :)

So what does count as tension winding? I mean isn't any winding 'tension'? We hold the wire tight while pulling out around a drill bit or whatever else. Is there a way of putting lots more tension on it than that?

I suppose that actually my Kuro doesn't really put that much tension on, certainly not as much as I could by hand pulling the wire tight. But it doesn't seem to make any difference to the resulting diameter of a Titanium coil, so I stick with the Kuro.
 

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Oh wow, that thing looks hardcore :)

So what does count as tension winding? I mean isn't any winding 'tension'? We hold the wire tight while pulling out around a drill bit or whatever else. Is there a way of putting lots more tension on it than that?

I suppose that actually my Kuro doesn't really put that much tension on, certainly not as much as I could by hand pulling the wire tight. But it doesn't seem to make any difference to the resulting diameter of a Titanium coil, so I stick with the Kuro.
I've heard some discussion of "tension coils" but I'll be damned if I can understand what's magic about them. Is the benefit only related to contact coils? I could use some education that's for sure.

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Oh wow, that thing looks hardcore :)

So what does count as tension winding? I mean isn't any winding 'tension'? We hold the wire tight while pulling out around a drill bit or whatever else. Is there a way of putting lots more tension on it than that?

I suppose that actually my Kuro doesn't really put that much tension on, certainly not as much as I could by hand pulling the wire tight. But it doesn't seem to make any difference to the resulting diameter of a Titanium coil, so I stick with the Kuro.

Bloke, I don't think that gadget could put much tension on anything. It's a gadget for making jewelry.

I've heard some discussion of "tension coils" but I'll be damned if I can understand what's magic about them. Is the benefit only related to contact coils? I could use some education that's for sure.
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I don't know what they are trying to accomplish either Duane, the only thing I can see that it might do is overcome the tendency of un-annealed wire to spring open to a larger diameter than the mandrel.

But if you hold on to the dog end with the tool that Bloke uses I could see that putting a fair amount of stretch to the wire i.e. tension at least enough to deal with the lack of annealing.
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