Titanium wire, vaping and safety
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OK that sound a lot better and should be working just fine. Did you prime you wicks real well? If not it can take quite a while for them to juice up on their own especially with rayon. One you pre-wet them they wick exceedingly well.
To me it sounds like you total resistance should be approx. 0.2 ohms and with the kind of power you were applying it should be knocking your socks off if not giving you burnt/dry puffs.
I'll have graphs on all this hopefully in a couple of days.
It's getting quite complicated because the results of a dry coil test - the simplest test to do, akin to a cotton burn test but with probes - are not necessarily representative of a real vaping scenario. And it varies greatly by mod as to how representative they are. On the DNA 40 it's actually pretty close, so the one Titanium dry coil graph I did already is still a good guide. Doing the same test with a wet coil and in simulated vaping scenarios shows the temp is often lower than the setting, and it jumps about a bit. At least it does with Ni200, so I assume the same with Titanium.
On the others there can be a big difference between a protracted dry coil test and a protracted wet coil test and a simulated vaping test (the last one being arguably the only one that's actually important.) So I'm doing six sets of graphs for every device type - dry coil, wet coil, vaping coil, each for both Nickel and Titanium.
I should have updated graphs for the DNA 40 tonight and the rest - SX Mini M; IPV4; Rayn board DNA 40 clones (Waidea, Kangxin, etc); SXK board DNA 40 clones; VT; Dicodes coming over the next couple of days. Titanium mode on SX Mini M and VT, Titanium TCR on SXK and Dicodes, Nickel/normal mode on the others. IPV4 should have FW updated soon as well.
Or you could set NP to 40 and set the temp you actually want
It wasn't, no burnt hits, but not even CLOSE to sock knocking off, of any nature. Also soaked in juice before used. I'm using cotton, is that getting me? And yes, just over .2 ohms, good call.
Thor,
No the cotton should be just fine. So far I am at a loss to give you any suggestions.
I will ask what kind of atty are you using and how high does the Mod claim the temperature is going?
Troll RDA, and I don't know what exactly you mean by what the mod says, I set it everywhere from 250F to 435F, and everywhere from 20J to 50J. At 435 it was ok, but not impressive. It's mainly a density issue, the vape is there, just light.
You can't tell on your IPV4 unfortunately, @Thor Cloudchaser
@HolmanGT the IPV4 (and IPV3 Li) sadly don't have the live temperature display of the SX Mini M / SX350J (and pretty much every other TC mod.)
I guess that's one of the things Yihi (arbitrarily) removed for the second, cheaper tier of chips. Differentiation to 'justify' the higher price of the SX350J
To be fair, it's the only important thing missing versus the SX350J. But it's a shame it had to be that, it really is very useful.
@HolmanGT the IPV4 (and IPV3 Li) sadly don't have the live temperature display of the SX Mini M / SX350J (and pretty much every other TC mod.)
I guess that's one of the things Yihi (arbitrarily) removed for the second, cheaper tier of chips. Differentiation to 'justify' the higher price of the SX350J
To be fair, it's the only important thing missing versus the SX350J. But it's a shame it had to be that, it really is very useful.
Well the mod while firing show the temperature the coil is reaching. With the wicks wet you should be able to just fire it and watch the screen and see what is say the temperature is climbing to.
With a dripper it is almost impossible for it not to work i.e. not wicking properly. This is going to sound silly but wimpy vapor is kind of subjective. If you are expecting clouds like Rip Tripper gets remember that he is using almost pure VG to produce those big clouds.
If you are using some 70 PG 30 VG it should produce a good cloud but nothing like you see on YouTube. A 50/50 juice should give you good flavor and good clouds albeit you will really have to turn it up to get clouds like Rip gets. Also remember that they are using camera lighting to enhance the look of their clouds.
Other than that I can't think of any reason you shouldn't be getting a great vape out of your setup.
You can't tell on your IPV4 unfortunately, @Thor Cloudchaser
@HolmanGT the IPV4 (and IPV3 Li) sadly don't have the live temperature display of the SX Mini M / SX350J (and pretty much every other TC mod.)
I guess that's one of the things Yihi (arbitrarily) removed for the second, cheaper tier of chips. Differentiation to 'justify' the higher price of the SX350J
To be fair, it's the only important thing missing versus the SX350J. But it's a shame it had to be that, it really is very useful.
Bloke,
Thanks for setting me straight on that. I thought the IPV4 was supposed to be at least as good as the SXM. That will teach me to assume. Anyway if you have been reading the mail on this problem Thor is having do you have any ideas what might be causing a Wimpy Cloud. Most drippers I have used just work... you really have to go out of your way to make one not work.
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I don't expect the same clouds I get out of my ridiculous kanthal set ups, hell I can't even accurately describe my current setup, let's just say lots of 24g kanthal. I only use "max vg" and have for some time, but also good thinking on the problem. My troll kills it with kanthal, and nickel is USELESS for dual coils. Hell, even single coil nickel on the troll is kind of a joke, I'm beginning to think it's an airflow issue, will try to rebuild tomorrow with the airflow choked off and see how that goes. Until then, vape on and live in peace my friends.
I only use "max vg" and have for some time, but also good thinking on the problem. My troll kills it with kanthal, and nickel is USELESS for dual coils. Hell, even single coil nickel on the troll is kind of a joke, I'm beginning to think it's an airflow issue, will try to rebuild tomorrow with the airflow choked off and see how that goes. Until then, vape on and live in peace my friends.
I don't expect the same clouds I get out of my ridiculous kanthal set ups, hell I can't even accurately describe my current setup, let's just say lots of 24g kanthal.
Sorry I didn't have the Magic answer for you. Sometimes this stuff is black magic.
Ouch
I have yet to try Ti. That is why I follow this thread. Part of my homework
But this is a bad news that Ti Claptons don't really work
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I use Ti Claptons pretty much exclusively for all my TC builds and have one hybrid twisted Clapton that just ROCKS. Never any TC issues or problems setting up vs a regular Kanthal build. Just my experience as with anything YMMV.
I use 38ga Kanthal around 28ga TI almost exclusively right now with great results myself
Or you could set NP to 40 and set the temp you actually want
Finding it easier to just change the temp setting (pushing two buttons instead of three
), plus the temp setting is right there on the screen so I can see if I'm in "titanium mode" or not easily (I use both ti and ni200 coils, depending on atty).Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk
Finding it easier to just change the temp setting (pushing two buttons instead of three
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Fair enough
Yeah it would be nice to have the NP setting visible.
Just out of interest, how safe is it to run Ti wire on a non-TC mod under normal vaping conditions?
As safe as the mod firing it is. Resistance is resistance is resistance whether it's kanthal, nichrome, nickel, titanium or unobtanium. As long as the mod can handle the resistance it is no different than any other wire...just watch the heat and oxide build up, being unable to control the coil temperature could lead to over oxidation.
That would depend on how efficient your wicking really is. In reality titanium has to get to about 600C before you need to worry about too much oxidation. If you hit that with a mod you'd probably have a fire rather than a vape, LOL. On the other hand, it always pays to be conservative and safe.
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