Titanium wire, vaping and safety
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I'm sure kanthanl would do the same. Just unlucky that the air path is very small and you have enough voltage to make it arc...Im on day two with ti... I messed with the coil as I was suddenly getting a dry hit with a wet wick. Found what it was..
Have you guys seen arcing if a leg gets loose?
I mean like arc welding to the positive post?
I know the screws like to come loose but I have never witnessed this with kanthal. Not try to cause a stink its just something different that I haven't heard about.
28g ti, arcing
Ok, just have never seen that before, coincidence I guess... I also probably havent dealt with amperage this high ive never really subohmed It was getting hit with high power due to faulty res reading.. Possibly more than 60w.
Once I looked its wasn't hard to see where the burnt taste was coming from. Lol.
Once I looked its wasn't hard to see where the burnt taste was coming from. Lol.
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OK I've made another Ti coil on a Lemo 2, 26g or 0.39mm, 9 spaced wraps at 2.5 I.D.
It came out at 0.37Ω, I set the temp at 400°F, and the watts at 26.3w.
I've used banana rayon as wicking material, and only used a tiny bit, far less than you'd think would suck up the juice, and it's blowing clouds on the VF DNA40.
I'm really impressed, the banana rayon is a great wick, the vapor is thick and lots of it.
I haven't been happy with Ti wire on the vapor flask, until I used rayon, specifically bamboo or banana rayon.
It came out at 0.37Ω, I set the temp at 400°F, and the watts at 26.3w.
I've used banana rayon as wicking material, and only used a tiny bit, far less than you'd think would suck up the juice, and it's blowing clouds on the VF DNA40.
I'm really impressed, the banana rayon is a great wick, the vapor is thick and lots of it.
I haven't been happy with Ti wire on the vapor flask, until I used rayon, specifically bamboo or banana rayon.
What are the differences between the bamboo and banana? How does is compare to Sally's?
The bamboo and banana rayon are like silk, the strands are hollow and very absorbent.
It's the only thing I've done that's any different.
I have to assume it's what's doing it.
It's the only thing I've done that's any different.
I have to assume it's what's doing it.
You may have posted it and I missed it but would you put up a link to Banana & Bamboo rayon. Thanks.
disley, out of curiosity how would you compare banana/bamboo rayon with Tencel?
Tony,
Not to start something and if disley says it is hollow OK. I will take a low profile on this but it sounds like the Tencel that I have but as far as hollow... well lets just say I am sceptical about that claim.
The only thing that should be different between wood chips, bananas, bamboo or sea weed rayon is the process of extrusion. Cellulose is cellulose you can make the fibers thin and long, short and fat, curly or straight but hollow... let me say Hmmm...
Now this one is going to get me in trouble with everyone (sorry Jeremy) Cotton expands when wet and rayon shrinks when wet Not now nor have I ever bought in on that one. Whatever the absorption percentage is for for rayon over cotton if the fibers absorb more it can only mean the volume has to increase. Basic physics. Now that is not saying the puffy (air space) nature of Sally's doesn't decrease when wet but that is another phenomenon. Tencel with it smooth long fibers with very little air space because of the straight fibers shows little of no compression went wet.
OK - I have hung myself out there "Fire when ready Gridley"
I bought the bamboo rayon from here:
Products - Ecoyarns - Organic & Eco-Friendly Yarns & Fibres
$4 for 50grams.
Scroll down the page it's near the bottom.
The bamboo has no taste.
I did a google search for bamboo fibers.
I'm sure you'll find it closer to you than the address I posted.
I haven't tried Tencel.
I have graham cellucotton 100% rayon, which I haven't tried yet.
I've only been using the bamboo for two weeks, and had no time to make other comparisons.
So far I've tried fibre freaks rayon, bamboo rayon, and banana rayon.
The bamboo stands out by far as the best wick I've used.
After using Koh Gen Do for months the bamboo rayon is easier to use and wicks better.
The banana rayon works well but tastes musty like it has dust in it.
I don't recommend it atm.
Let me wash it before I try it again.
Products - Ecoyarns - Organic & Eco-Friendly Yarns & Fibres
$4 for 50grams.
Scroll down the page it's near the bottom.
The bamboo has no taste.
I did a google search for bamboo fibers.
I'm sure you'll find it closer to you than the address I posted.
I haven't tried Tencel.
I have graham cellucotton 100% rayon, which I haven't tried yet.
I've only been using the bamboo for two weeks, and had no time to make other comparisons.
So far I've tried fibre freaks rayon, bamboo rayon, and banana rayon.
The bamboo stands out by far as the best wick I've used.
After using Koh Gen Do for months the bamboo rayon is easier to use and wicks better.
The banana rayon works well but tastes musty like it has dust in it.
I don't recommend it atm.
Let me wash it before I try it again.
I can't guarantee the bamboo strands are hollow, it was something I read when searching for it.
I've sent a couple of samples to members, wait and see if they like it.
It's noticeably better than KGD cotton and the fibre freaks rayon.
The two wicking materials I've been using for months.
This is my subjective opinion.
I've sent a couple of samples to members, wait and see if they like it.
It's noticeably better than KGD cotton and the fibre freaks rayon.
The two wicking materials I've been using for months.
This is my subjective opinion.
He's in Australia so they have different products than we get.
I know for sure the bamboo rayon should be like rayon top that you can find in the states. Source links at the very start of rayon thread, same place as the tencel. Mikels, 1.30 an oz for "bamboo" viscose top and an oz is a lot too.. The cellulose of any of these may or may not have actually been derived from bamboo says the US gov. Most aren't really, not a huge deal though.
The banana I'm not sure as I didn't see it classified as a viscose. I've seen banana fibers which are like hemp or ramie, actual plant fibers.
However any plant can be used to create a regenerated cellulose compound known as viscose.
The long silk like continuous strands are technically called top. Some like working with top I prefer the fluffy crimped fibers.
Sorry to disrupt we should discuss in appropriate rayon threads.
I know for sure the bamboo rayon should be like rayon top that you can find in the states. Source links at the very start of rayon thread, same place as the tencel. Mikels, 1.30 an oz for "bamboo" viscose top and an oz is a lot too.. The cellulose of any of these may or may not have actually been derived from bamboo says the US gov. Most aren't really, not a huge deal though.
The banana I'm not sure as I didn't see it classified as a viscose. I've seen banana fibers which are like hemp or ramie, actual plant fibers.
However any plant can be used to create a regenerated cellulose compound known as viscose.
The long silk like continuous strands are technically called top. Some like working with top I prefer the fluffy crimped fibers.
Sorry to disrupt we should discuss in appropriate rayon threads.
In my view they both contract when wet. Take a big fluffy ball of cotton, add water! Not so big and fluffy any more right! Water and even better VG or pg adsorb onto and between the fibres creating surface tension which displaces air and pulls the fibres closer together.. The real question is how much liquid can an equivalent unit of rayon accommodate versus the same unit of cotton.
Just saying!!
Ps and the same must happen when either are stuffed in a coil!
Your technically accurate. The fibers themselves do not shrink. Depending on how you wick depends on the amount of air space left in the wick to displace, and amount of aligning the fibers will do as they are used.
disley,
If you think KGD is not as good as PURE rayon just ask Jeremy what he has found and I have seen in KGD cotton. You might want to be close to the Porcelain Thrown when he tells you what is in it. Disgusting is all I will say.
By the way the in reply to the previous post about drawing the fibers closer together I agree completely. Regarding the absorption ratio of cotton vs rayon I don't remember off the top of my head but the rayon is superior. If you Google it you will find the answer rather easily. I believe rayon is about 10 to 20% greater absorption which is why it is popular for sports clothing. Oh - and if you noticed a musty taste with the Banana it may be that it is an old batch or not properly sealed. Rayon will absorb 7 to 10% moisture from the ambient air if not sealed along with anything that may be in the air.
This has happened to a couple of folks with Sally's rayon. Mine was fine but the stuff is put in a plastic bag (unsealed) and crammed in a cardboard box. So if it has been stored a long time and/or a poor environment you may get some strange tastes. By the way it has been reported that if you was it under warm tap water you can remove any unpleasant taste. Just let it dry and use as normal.
The only reason I say Hmmm... to the hollow is the stuff is made as a slurry of cellulose and extruded thru jets. Making it hollow which may be very cool would also take some pretty fancy manufacturing equipment. I am not saying the stuff you have is not hollow but I would be very surprised if it was.
It is too early in the day for all this heavy debate. Please excuse me I am still reeling from a debate late last night with folks using LiPos for their DNA200s that are concerned about them blowing up when they have been carrying LiPos in their front pocket very close to some valuable appendages for years in their cell phones and never giving that a second thought.
Thanks for letting me off the hook gently Jeremy. I will tell you something not to do with rayon. I discovered that if I wet the fibers and then rolled them (not twist) and them let them air dry I could make perfect wicks every time. The negative side is if you want wicks that will pop like a small pistol shot do it my way. The ejuice draws into the closely compressed fiber and when you hit them with some heat the juice semi trapped int the core of the wick will supper heat and pop hard enough to send some very hot juice (seldom missing) the tip of your tongue. The tow problems with this approach if you vape in public you will have people ducking every time it pops and the tip of you tongue will take more abuse than it was ever designed to.
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