Titanium wire, vaping and safety

[tchavei]

You might want to try titanium coils as well. Titanium makes even tempered nickel look limp, LOL.

Regular titanium makes ANY wire look limp lol

I'm pretty sure you could use it in various marine applications where you need anti oxide properties and strength. Hmm, I think I'm going to start carry a spool of titanium in the boat's first aid kit.. May come handy to repair something

Regards
Tony

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[druckle]

Regular titanium makes ANY wire look limp lol

I'm pretty sure you could use it in various marine applications where you need anti oxide properties and strength. Hmm, I think I'm going to start carry a spool of titanium in the boat's first aid kit.. May come handy to repair something

Regards
Tony

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Titanium Grade 1 is used in sea water heat exchangers because it's corrosion life is virtually infinite....BUT there's a big down side...
there's nothing to poison sea life that wants to encrust a surface...hence Ti tubes are subject to clogging. As long as the application allows something poisonous to be flushed through the system now and then it's perfect. The trend lately is for folks to opt for lazy and just put copper tubes or somesuch in the heat exchanger and replace it when it goes boink.

duane

 

[druckle]

Titanium Grade 1 is used in sea water heat exchangers because it's corrosion life is virtually infinite....BUT there's a big down side...
there's nothing to poison sea life that wants to encrust a surface...hence Ti tubes are subject to clogging. As long as the application allows something poisonous to be flushed through the system now and then it's perfect. The trend lately is for folks to opt for lazy and just put copper tubes or somesuch in the heat exchanger and replace it when it goes boink.

duane

I built a titanium aquarium for my first foray into salt water...wasn't expensive...I had a free source of titanium sheet. There's a house in Connecticut that has a big built in aquarium that will be there when the foundation crumbles.

Duane

 

[tchavei]

Never thought of that but yeah, below the waterline you either have some nasty poisonous paint or it will get covered by sea life in a matter of weeks. Guess a titanium hull isn't such a great idea after all... Well actually it still is because of no corrosion... You just need to paint it with copper paint

Regards
Tony

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[druckle]

Never thought of that but yeah, below the waterline you either have some nasty poisonous paint or it will get covered by sea life in a matter of weeks. Guess a titanium hull isn't such a great idea after all... Well actually it still is because of no corrosion... You just need to paint it with copper paint

Regards
Tony

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Better have a great source for free titanium!!!!

OR....have a last name like Gates.

 

[tchavei]

I built a titanium aquarium for my first foray into salt water...wasn't expensive...I had a free source of titanium sheet. There's a house in Connecticut that has a big built in aquarium that will be there when the foundation crumbles.

Duane

Only problem is actually seeing the fish

I have a 300L aquarium but made with extra clear glass, 12mm thick and transparent silicone. Not sure how long the Silicon will last though... 3 years and counting right now [emoji14]

Regards
Tony

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[tchavei]

Better have a great source for free titanium!!!!

OR....have a last name like Gates.

Oh those little pesky details called money.... Pffff [emoji14]

Regards
Tony

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[druckle]

Only problem is actually seeing the fish

I have a 300L aquarium but made with extra clear glass, 12mm thick and transparent silicone. Not sure how long the Silicon will last though... 3 years and counting right now [emoji14]

Regards
Tony

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Yeah I thought of that...used the same glass as you for my chair side....but it's kinda soft and I didn't realize that until I scratched it a little scraping the crud off.

Didn't realize you were fishy too.

Duane

 

[tchavei]

Yeah I thought of that...used the same glass as you for my chair side....but it's kinda soft and I didn't realize that until I scratched it a little scraping the crud off.

Didn't realize you were fishy too.

Duane

I used to be. Now it's kind of a mess. I just couldn't bare the weekly plant trimming, cutting the grass, monthly 2.5kg CO2 bottles, daily fertilization anymore. It's more of a fish tank now and my angels are devilish lol.

I'm planning rebuilding the tank / hardscape in August.

This was mine at the peak of its life:




Regards
Tony

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[druckle]

I used to be. Now it's kind of a mess. I just couldn't bare the weekly plant trimming, cutting the grass, monthly 2.5kg CO2 bottles, daily fertilization anymore. It's more of a fish tank now and my angels are devilish lol.

I'm planning rebuilding the tank / hardscape in August.

This was mine at the peak of its life:




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Tony

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Tony
That looks great!

I definitely understand the maintenance load. I started out with fish only and that was cool but I kept seeing all those folks with beautiful coral and started giving that a try. I'm still on that track but it's too damned expensive and way more trouble than fish only. Corals don't move around and they expect an environment like their ancestors of a million years ago grew up in. That's not easy in a water box. I may be about to do a U-turn to fish only. I've decided that the end of the year will be the deciding moment.

Duane

 

[awsum140]

I find one high maintenance hobby, vaping, to be quite enough, thank you very much, LOL. I always wanted to fool with salt water but never did. Now, there's not enough room for anything decent.

 

[TheBloke]

FYI guys I made a couple of Titanium coils yesterday and today. Following on from our discussion of what Pedro said, re 'shiny', and whether blue was fine - I know it is, but at the time I mentioned I'd never tried just yellow to see if it was similarly malleable after a pulse.

So that's what I did this time, I pulsed only to yellow. I put around 0.55Ω of curved wire (around 130-150mm, didn't measure exactly) into my M80 and did a single 12 second pulse (the cut out time on the M80) at 35W. That was enough to turn it mostly yellow all over in one go.

I then found it was pretty easy to coil, I'd say probably the same as when it was blue.

I'll do a side by side test at some point just to be sure, but I'll probably take it to yellow only in future - simply because it's a few seconds quicker on the pulsing, and if there's no further benefit to blue why spend the extra time.

I'm over the blue coloured wires; it's not like I see it for more than a couple of minutes anyway

 

[druckle]

I find one high maintenance hobby, vaping, to be quite enough, thank you very much, LOL. I always wanted to fool with salt water but never did. Now, there's not enough room for anything decent.

Don't do saltwater unless you are crazy as I am.

I'm stuck with it now though because it would be hell to take it all apart....and I gotta admit it's nice to sit and stare at late at night with a satisfying vape. It's hard to worry about whatever happened during the day when I do that.

Duane

 

[tbrown4g63]

im getting ready to jump into a 220g. Going to be a freshwater with these.

 

[tchavei]

im getting ready to jump into a 220g. Going to be a freshwater with these.

Well at least when you forget dinner, you can always eat one of those

Regards
Tony

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[BNEAT]

Well at least when you forget dinner, you can always eat one of those

I'm not saying Travis eats a lot, but It would take both of those to make his dinner.

 

[drmarble]

As long as you folks are going off topic from Titanium to fish tanks you should get in touch with Mike Petro @mikepetro of DNA coop fame. He is an avid fish tank fancier. Always going on about air shipping shrimp for filtering.
Token on topic comment: I need to get some Ti for my DNA25s. They have a stated minimum resistance of 0.15 ohms. That is a challenge to build with nickle.

 

[TheBloke]

Temp settings to use on DNA 40 devices to achieve a given real temp with Titanium Grade 1

I will soon give more explanations on background and testing methods over in my thread, but here's the key data to ensure it's seen by all Titanium users.

The Titanium used is Zivipf 0.39mm / 29G, already known to have approximate TCR 0.0035. Other Titaniums may vary (but hopefully not too much.)





Caveat: all testing done thus far is on dry coils; I so far assume this is relevant to wet coils / real vapes. But I will be doing further testing to validate that in due course.

Coming soon: IPV4; ChiDNA 40 devices (Kangxin, SXK, etc); more

 

[tchavei]

Temp settings to use on DNA 40 devices to achieve a given real temp with Titanium Grade 1

I will soon give more explanations on background and testing methods over in my thread, but here's the key data to ensure it's seen by all Titanium users.

The Titanium used is Zivipf 0.39mm / 29G, already known to have approximate TCR 0.0035. Other Titaniums may vary (but hopefully not too much.)






Caveat: all testing done thus far is on dry coils; I so far assume this is relevant to wet coils / real vapes. But I will be doing further testing to validate that in due course.

Coming soon: IPV4; ChiDNA 40 devices (Kangxin, SXK, etc); more

THANK YOU

Cool to see that my subjective feeling of 185C on the dna feels like the 230/235 C setting on the VT is close

Regards
Tony

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[jks89]

Thanks for that chart, @TheBloke! I'm trying out the stock Ti coils for the Delta II, so far they seem to be doing pretty well. Right now I've got my Invader Mini set at 350F, which (theoretically) would be around 450F. I'm not sure how accurate the temp is on the Invader Mini, but the few nickel builds I did I set around 450 - 470, so it does seem relevant to wet coils as well (at least in a sample group of me and Tony!).

Edit: I sent a message to Sweet Vapes (US vendor I order from frequently) inquiring if they were going to start stocking Ti wire, and the response I got was "Hopefully soon".