Titanium wire, vaping and safety
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That's just Brandolini's law at work, aka the bull.... asymmetry principle:
"The amount of energy needed to refute bull.... is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it"
I still have a bag of those blue fillers lol... I was the bad boy on my block back then. Only pro Vapers used blue foam
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jeez I didnt realise it was 34g! What the hell was he thinking??? I guess he was thinking of Ksnthal/nichrome type resistance/metre or whatever...I hope he doidnt pay too much for it!!
..Switches?? Luxury...I remember when we plugged an old bedspring directly into the wall socket and wicked with old socks...you tell that to the kids of today and they dont believe you..
sorry guys, that was rather influenced by the old monty python 'Four Yorkshiremen' sketch.....lol. Check it out if you have never seen it..quintessentially british humour...
On a more serious and OT note, what do we think has driven companies like joyetech, dicodes and yihi et al have embraced Ti when not so long ago it was considered completely unsafe? It would be interesting to know how their view of Ti has been influenced!
I'm sure it was Rossum. Who can argue with that guy?
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Tony
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I'm sure it was Rossum. Who can argue with that guy?
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Tony
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Force of nature!!! Lol!
Cool, glad it's spreading!
I am in contact with a US supplier called ResistanceWire.com. They sell "Alloy 120" which is the generic name for Nickel 70 / Iron 30. For about $50 I can get 280 metres of it. The only issue is shipping costs, which currently seem to cost anywhere up to $100!
Anyway I am seeing if there's a cheaper way to get shipping, like maybe using USPS instead of UPS or FedEx. If I can find a way, I'm going to order that 280 metres. I can then send you guys small amounts for pennies rather than more than €1.3 or €1.5/m!
According to @vapealone in my Beyond Ni200 thread it's basically the same stuff. Though actually the TCR is higher - around 0.0043 instead of 0.0032. Here's a data sheet I found quickly saying 0.0043 (similar not identical to the wire I might buy.) So that's even better in terms of TC accuracy.
And it's available in multiple sizes, pretty much all of them in fact, 24, 26, 28, 30G, etc.
My only concern is if it's a) very cheaply available b) has an even higher TCR, c) a much wider range of sizes (Resistherm is only 29G), why didn't Dicodes use it in the first place? Does Resistherm have some advantage? I plan to email them to ask. It could be (being cynical here) that Dicodes deliberately chose a specific strain that's hard to get hold of, so they could control the market. We shall see.
I am going to post again soon regarding Resistherm/Alloy 120. What I can say is that I really like it. It's the only TC metal that can be used also for non-TC - I tested it last night at 20-25W, worked beautifully, just like Kanthal. And it's the only TC metal where one can dry burn the coil, including/especially micro coil, to get it to glow nicely inside-out; exactly like we used to do with Kanthal. So when I make a Resi micro coil, I can test and confirm it's firing optimally - no hot legs, no shorts, I can see it glowing beautifully inside out.
I have a week-old Resistherm twisted coil that had got gunked to hell. Last night I pulled out the wick, then dry burned it at 15W and burnt all the gunk off it; scraped it and wiped it with some IPA and pulsed it a few more times, and it was literally good as new within a couple of minutes. It's so convenient in that respect - only Stainless Steel might also support that, but then Stainless is right at the bottom range of usability for TC, and can't be used on normal DNA 40/Yihi type mods.
I am in contact with a US supplier called ResistanceWire.com. They sell "Alloy 120" which is the generic name for Nickel 70 / Iron 30. For about $50 I can get 280 metres of it. The only issue is shipping costs, which currently seem to cost anywhere up to $100!
Anyway I am seeing if there's a cheaper way to get shipping, like maybe using USPS instead of UPS or FedEx. If I can find a way, I'm going to order that 280 metres. I can then send you guys small amounts for pennies rather than more than €1.3 or €1.5/m!
According to @vapealone in my Beyond Ni200 thread it's basically the same stuff. Though actually the TCR is higher - around 0.0043 instead of 0.0032. Here's a data sheet I found quickly saying 0.0043 (similar not identical to the wire I might buy.) So that's even better in terms of TC accuracy.
And it's available in multiple sizes, pretty much all of them in fact, 24, 26, 28, 30G, etc.
My only concern is if it's a) very cheaply available b) has an even higher TCR, c) a much wider range of sizes (Resistherm is only 29G), why didn't Dicodes use it in the first place? Does Resistherm have some advantage? I plan to email them to ask. It could be (being cynical here) that Dicodes deliberately chose a specific strain that's hard to get hold of, so they could control the market. We shall see.
I am going to post again soon regarding Resistherm/Alloy 120. What I can say is that I really like it. It's the only TC metal that can be used also for non-TC - I tested it last night at 20-25W, worked beautifully, just like Kanthal. And it's the only TC metal where one can dry burn the coil, including/especially micro coil, to get it to glow nicely inside-out; exactly like we used to do with Kanthal. So when I make a Resi micro coil, I can test and confirm it's firing optimally - no hot legs, no shorts, I can see it glowing beautifully inside out.
I have a week-old Resistherm twisted coil that had got gunked to hell. Last night I pulled out the wick, then dry burned it at 15W and burnt all the gunk off it; scraped it and wiped it with some IPA and pulsed it a few more times, and it was literally good as new within a couple of minutes. It's so convenient in that respect - only Stainless Steel might also support that, but then Stainless is right at the bottom range of usability for TC, and can't be used on normal DNA 40/Yihi type mods.
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so Resistherm doesnt oxidise up the wazoo when dry burning?? Wow!
btw if you source some Im in for 20m or so!! Question is which guage to get?!?!
btw if you source some Im in for 20m or so!!
Question is which guage to get?!?!
I haven't any direct experience with Alloy 120 but since it doesn't contain any element which would encourage formation of an adherent oxide (Cr, Al etc.) I would expect the oxidation resistance not to be significantly different from Nickel or Iron.
Of course our real high temperature exposure is short in vaping so this may not be of great significance. It's probably well worth evaluation as a coil wire based on it's overall properties.
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