Tobacco extraction using heated Ethanol

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No I don't think you want to boil it but even before boiling there would be convection that would not allow hot spots.

It is counter intuitive to think that the microwave creates as much convection as a regular stove top. Isn't super heating partially caused by lack of convection combined with lack of nucleation? I have never seen water super heat on a stove top.
 
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I am having second thoughts whether the microwave creates as much convection as a regular stove top. Isn't super heating partially caused by lack of convection combined with lack of nucleation? I have never seen water super heat on a stove top.
Thinking about it, you are right. A stove has the heat source at the bottom so that the heated fluid tends to flow upwards and mixes things up. A microwave, ideally, causes water to vibrate, creating heat throughout the fluid evenly.

Of course, superheating has to do with heating past the boiling point and having nucleation sites, which any extract will have, should prevent superheating.

To be on the safe side you can use short bursts and stir the fluid between each burst. Say 10-15 second bursts with a quick stir between each will also help to avoid superheating.
 

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I have actually compared the temp on top vs the bottom of a liquid in a microwaved liquid. The top is around 25% warmer.
That is why I said "ideally" although it isn't surprising that some convection is taking place. Either way, if you want to make sure that the liquid isn't going to superheat just stir it up before it does. It is under your control. You just have to know what's going on.
 
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I extracted some Organic American Spirit and filtered it twice, once after the crockpot and again after 48 hours of freezing. Used only coffee filters since I had nothing else at the moment. The liquid looks surprisingly clear - don't know if I will even need a fine filter, but only time will tell. I then heated the extract in a tiny shallow bowl - the kind they use in Japan for soy sauce. 20 minutes of heat at 150 degrees in a small electric oven cut down the volume by 50%. As an added bonus, the liquid formed a ring around the top as it was receding. I call it bonus because I think that might be the extra gunk not caught by the coffee filters. An now the long process of steeping begins.....
 
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These transport vials have a conical bottom to minimize the amount of residue you pull into your syringe at the end. I simply draw the liquid from the top and stop 1/8 - 1/4 inch above the cone. You may lose a few drops of liquid this way, but you still take in more than a flat bottom bottle.

My extracts came out crystal clear with this routine. Out of four different extracts, I didn't detect even the smallest particles; this with only a coffee filter. Note, the vials are plastic, therefore best used only in the freezing process.

http://www.zoro.com/stockwell-scientific-transport-vial-wblue-cap-50ml-pk25-3264/i/G4582584/
 

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I extracted some Organic American Spirit and filtered it twice, once after the crockpot and again after 48 hours of freezing. Used only coffee filters since I had nothing else at the moment. The liquid looks surprisingly clear - don't know if I will even need a fine filter, but only time will tell. I then heated the extract in a tiny shallow bowl - the kind they use in Japan for soy sauce. 20 minutes of heat at 150 degrees in a small electric oven cut down the volume by 50%. As an added bonus, the liquid formed a ring around the top as it was receding. I call it bonus because I think that might be the extra gunk not caught by the coffee filters. An now the long process of steeping begins.....
I did the same with the same results (clear), but is looking like a coil killer anyway. Thinking I'll have to break down for some 1-2 micron paper.

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I did the same with the same results (clear), but is looking like a coil killer anyway. Thinking I'll have to break down for some 1-2 micron paper.

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If the particles in your extract were larger than 1-2 microns, wouldn't your liquid look a bit cloudy perhaps? Perhaps not, IDK .... I do know that my own extract looks just as clear as the commercial juice I recently bought. That one even contains pg/vg where my extract does not.
 
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Yes for those in the U.S. there are on-line sources for purchasing 190 - 200 proof grain alcohol but they can be a bit -expensive- due to the "special" Hazmat (hazardous material), shipping fees mandated by the feds in addition to the "special" sin tax already imposed on all consumable alcohol. Also depends on which state you reside in, most states prohibit on-line purchases of a "controlled" revenue generating substance unless you obtain (for a fee), a one-time special permit, full liquor license or trudge through some other bureaucratic paperwork riddled minefield. Surprisingly, California has no regulations (neither does my home state), which is a plus for you. A gallon of USP food grade 200 proof (100% pure ethanol), costs just $53 but then add $27 federal excise (sin), tax and $42 for Hazmat shipping so the total cost for one gallon is around $122 shipped...... http://www.kleenxtract.com/ They list 7 retail outlets in California, if one is near you it might save/reduce the shipping charges.... 190 proof PGA is locally available to me for $22 per liter and $38 for a half gallon taxes included. It's cheap enough that when I reduce an ethanol based extract I just evaporate the ethanol off, losing it. If it were more expensive, or difficult to obtain, I'd be vacuum distilling it instead.

Many nations prohibit the sale of PGA and limit the total ethanol content in liquor. This is why I often ~reference~ fractional distillation or even better yet vacuum distillation (requires a much lower distilling temperature). When properly distilled, 128 ounces of 80 proof vodka (which is 40% ethanol and 60% water), can yield around 50 ounces of 190 proof + alcohol (95% ethanol). The same apparatus can be used when reducing an extract allowing you to reclaim most of the ethanol and use it again and again and again. Anyone who is mechanically inclined can rig up an inexpensive functional vacuum distillation unit for around $100....
 
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