Tobacco extraction using heated Ethanol
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Ha! I was going to suggest Latakia for the missing 'smokiness', but You're already there!!
Have You tried 1-2% of Inawera's 'Dirty Neutral Base' in Your mixes?...I've moved away from it now, just savouring 'pure' tobacco flavour, but used it with some success in My 1st NETs, when I was still missing the analogues...
Have You tried 1-2% of Inawera's 'Dirty Neutral Base' in Your mixes?...I've moved away from it now, just savouring 'pure' tobacco flavour, but used it with some success in My 1st NETs, when I was still missing the analogues...
Thank. I have the dirty neutral base but i have not tried it till yet. Too much work with all the extractions. It should taste like ashtrey.
I am not searching latakia especially, but the smoked latakia from net.com has it. I am searching the roasting flavour from fire cured tobaccos.
I am not searching latakia especially, but the smoked latakia from net.com has it. I am searching the roasting flavour from fire cured tobaccos.
I have tried the full virginia flake from S. Gawith today with 15% extract after only 1 day steeping.
Fantastic !
I think i need only the half extract after steeping. Thanks str8, very good tobacco.
Fantastic !
I think i need only the half extract after steeping. Thanks str8, very good tobacco.
As far as bitterness and smokeyness, FA makes this stuff called bitter wizard, which definitely cuts the sweet down at least. They also make black fire flavoring, which to me tastes like barbecue if used too heavily, but a little adds a smoke characteristic. Just my 2C.
-Kingboomer
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Thanks, perhaps i will try. What is bitter wizard made from ? I have bought some fire cured tobaccos now. If i have extracted them i have over 30 juices. Than i have to wait for some week to try them all and thinking about to make them perhaps better. Waiting is hard. I have tried 4 juices without the fire cured tobacco and something is missing. The flavours are good and strong but its too soft. I am missing the smokiness. But i have tried them without steeping, they are 2 days old.
I'm not sure what it's made from, all I know is tasting a small bit made my mouth dry up something fierce 
. I think the flavorart site might have that info.
-Kingboomer
. I think the flavorart site might have that info.-Kingboomer
alum??I'm not sure what it's made from, all I know is tasting a small bit made my mouth dry up something fierce
-Kingboomer
I doubt it's alum, all I'm finding on the ingredients thus far are PG and artificial flavor..
EDIT: yeah, this is all I'm finding on it:
Balance your juice ! Flavour Art designed Bitter Wizard to reduce or eliminate the sweet basic taste given by PG or VG. Adding the BW at 1%, vapers can get a pleasant bitter aftertaste, which can be enhanced further increasing the dosage. BW blends well with dark and tobacco flavors. Give it a try.
None of the Flavour Art concentrates contain Diacetyl or related Diketones, including Acetoin and Acetyl Propionyl, alcohol, sugars, protein, genetically modified ingredients, animal ingredients of any kind, preservatives, caffeine, sweeteners or colours. They are all gluten and peanut free, suitable for diabetics, vegetarians and vegans.
Does anyone know which one is easier to reduce - alcohol mixed with water or alcohol mixed with pg?
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FOUNT IT!!!
Ester of Wood Rosin- Sold by fa as bitter wizard, also a main ingredient of
mts vape wizard by fa. Used in Gatorade and some colas to give a bitter note. At
0.5%, masks the flavor of vg and pg, thus only leaving the taste of your flavor
mix. At 1% or higher, gives the pleasant bitter ring of colas, whiskeys, or dark
chocolate.
Had to go to another forum but there it be. @Exchaner, from my high school chem class (20+ years ago ) alcohol and water would reduce easier than alcohol and PG because water is less viscous. At least that's if I remember right, this C.R.S. I have and be a pain sometimes
-Kingboomer
Ester of Wood Rosin- Sold by fa as bitter wizard, also a main ingredient of
mts vape wizard by fa. Used in Gatorade and some colas to give a bitter note. At
0.5%, masks the flavor of vg and pg, thus only leaving the taste of your flavor
mix. At 1% or higher, gives the pleasant bitter ring of colas, whiskeys, or dark
chocolate.
Had to go to another forum but there it be
. @Exchaner, from my high school chem class (20+ years ago ) alcohol and water would reduce easier than alcohol and PG because water is less viscous. At least that's if I remember right, this C.R.S. I have and be a pain sometimes -Kingboomer
Thanks for digging out wot's in the 'Bitter Wiz', @Kingboomer might get some! Surprised that it's also in the 'Vapewiz. MTS' tho' as I get a 'candy-floss-y' note from that....?!
I am still making new extracts and buying new tobaccos. I want to have a big choice in a few weeks. I am working so hard because of the damned steeping time. If i have enough juices i will try mixing them and i will try the bitter wizard and also the dirty base with my best extracts.
Do the bitter wizard needs steeping time ?
Do the bitter wizard needs steeping time ?
I am thinking of i should buy this cigar but its only made for the usa:
MUWAT Kentucky Fire Cured - Cigars International
A fire cured cigar is very interesting. Do somebody know this cigar ?
MUWAT Kentucky Fire Cured - Cigars International
A fire cured cigar is very interesting. Do somebody know this cigar ?
I am thinking about mold because of the water. Mold need water and air. But there is water in some bases, hmmm ?
Most bases do not contain much water because of the mold problem you mentioned. It is also not a very good solvent.
The only reason I am considering it's use is because I am using Isopropyl Alcohol, not PGA. I need to evaporate the last molecule of the alcohol by mixing it with water and evaporate the mixture.
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you would be better off using a vodka... but it will boil off at 180F... some IPAs are denatured with methanol which is even more toxic.. please be careful..
Mixing with water isn't going to make it evaporate off any better. I agree, just use vodka. Isopropyl just seems like a bad idea.
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