That is the way to do it! However, most "experts" will tell you that dry burning is a no-no once you get to meltdown temps. Ni and Ti are the ones you're not even supposed to pulse, just stick with slightly spaced coils to eliminate hot spots.I have always been taught that when you first install a newly made coil,(I do not use TI or NI) you should gently pulse it to prepare it for vaping. Ya know, get the hot legs out etc. and by slowly heating the coil until it glows helps to strengthen the form of the wires.
So slowly dry burning the gunk off just as slowly allows the coil to continue to be used. I don't get them so hot that they start to emit their own meltdown. No where near that temp.
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Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)
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The Kangertech software will allow changing of TCR values but there are not enough digits. Default SS on the Dripbox 2 is set for 0.0015, I have no idea what wire that value applies to. If I want to set SS to 0.000879, 0.00088, 0.00092 or 0.000138 for SS430 I can't as it only accepts entries to 4 decimal places. A little confusing for new users wanting to use Temp Control on the DB2 having to fine tune it so it works with numbers they cant enter... DNA precision you say? I really can't see that at all.
The battery issue with mine and many others also have this problem. Has to do with the gauge dropping very quickly, within 45 minutes of normal use the gauge is down to one bar and power output is reduced. If you take the battery out and check it in another mod, or on a charger you will find that it is only down to around 75%. It's easy to live with a mod that has a wonky gauge, but when it starts throttling back output thinking the battery is almost depleted, that is a problem they need to fix.
Hopefully it is a firmware fix, if we ever see firmware for it...
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Thanks Glenn. I wasn't aware of that thread
@NU_FTW my best wishes for your son as well. I hope he keep improving and you get him back home soon.
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Got hungry so just had Vegemite on toast to keep me goin' LOL
There is a thread going with the premise that a coil temperature above 470 F might be unhealthy and some california researchers claim may be even low power tootle puffers are at risk and don't know it. I started a brother of mine vaping a couple years back. He vapes an N mini at 11 watts. Is he be exposed to this alleged risk? So I set my watts to 11 max and temp to 400 F max and stayed on the fire button for 19 continuous seconds and didn't draw any air and the coil temperature never went above 300 F. Here is a video of that.
This isn't proof that you're safe but it does show an easy way to find out. The Arctic Fox firmware is what's displaying the readings. It works on a bunch of devices.
This isn't proof that you're safe but it does show an easy way to find out. The Arctic Fox firmware is what's displaying the readings. It works on a bunch of devices.
The Vegemite toast was incredibly salty...so the remedy was beer.Reading every post.
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Got hungry so just had Vegemite on toast to keep me goin' LOL
Beer after 4am is a wonderful thing...but the first one got lonely so I had to send another down to keep it company..
Trouble is both beers then decided they wanted to party and requested some Irish whiskey..so hey, who am I to deny a party
The Vegemite toast was incredibly salty...so the remedy was beer.
Beer after 4am is a wonderful thing...but the first one got lonely so I had to send another down to keep it company..
Trouble is both beers then decided they wanted to party and requested some Irish whiskey..so hey, who am I to deny a party
Lol, thanks for the smile! I'm going to use the loneliness excuse next time I have more than one glass of wine!
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I agree. I have been doing similar experiments and coming up with the same results on a KF5 with the air reducer kit and adjusted to the tightest air flow it is similar to a KF2 setting that most are familiar with. I tried that ( cause I vape that way a lot) and i was trying to minimize the air flow to not cool down the coil to mimic most MTL Vaping.
Your experiment was even more interesting not even drawing any air to the coil and coming up with those results.
I don't think my experiment will turn out to be quite definitive enough to earn me a Nobel prize in medicine but hopefully lots of other people around here will do similar tests and share their results and we'll end up better informed and not so vulnerable to the scare mongers.
Some scientists are standing behind a coil temperature number, 470 F. That's a target we can work with. Stay below that and you aren't creating worrying amounts of bad stuff? Really? Thanks scientist guys. My test suggests that's not a tough assignment and for a lot of vapers may be they can't get there even when they try.
There is a major flaw with your testing. The 28g SS316L 1.38 ohm coil has a heatflux of 70 at 11W. Now if you take (I'll assume here) a Nautilus mini 1.6 ohm BVC coil at 11W, you will find it has a heat flux of 240 and will easily reach and exceed the 470F.
You are not taking into account that the 1.6 ohm Aspire Nautilus BVC coil is made with 30g Kanthal and not 28g SS, a totally different heat flux. This would be the same issue for any number of premade coils.
I just find the thread too damn confusing. I am using protank coils or rebuilt with nr-r-nr 33g 2.0ohm Silica wick. Running that setup in my Rebuildables as well at 6.5w. Am I going to die.
You are 100% correct. I over looked heat flux. i went to steam engine and ran both coils. It says to get 200 heat flux on the 1.8 ohm N mini coil requires 10 watts but to get the same heat flux on my stainless coill I need 30 watts. So I ran the test again at 30 watts and here is the result, still far south of 470 F.
I ran these tests to try and reassure myself that my younger brother, who I got off cigs 2 years ago isn't exceeding that 470 F temperature that some guys in California say is dangerous. My conclusion is he's never getting close to that temperature. Your setup looks even more conservative than his.
I was just fiddling with some calculations...
8 wrap, on 2.5mm, 28ga K1, 1.5 ohm vs. same coil Ni200 at .1 ohm vs. same SS316 at .82 ohm and heat flux is about the same @ 10W. For all 3. What am I doing wrong?
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8 wrap, on 2.5mm, 28ga K1, 1.5 ohm vs. same coil Ni200 at .1 ohm vs. same SS316 at .82 ohm and heat flux is about the same @ 10W. For all 3. What am I doing wrong?
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I doubt I've much to add to the excellent recommendations over the last few pages. I'd definitely rinse it, tho.
Depends on the week. Or the circle. Or both.
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How bout a little light reading over here...........> New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers
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