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So...all of those 'Associations and Societies"on that letter...who makes the decision that they agreed to that letter ?
Is there a vote and the majority wins or is it someone(s) involved with the immediate group that also belong to those groups that just add their affiliations to them...

Did that make sense ?


And where is our letter encouraging ( that should follow the same format that they used )
 

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So...all of those 'Associations and Societies"on that letter...who makes the decision that they agreed to that letter ?
Is there a vote and the majority wins or is it someone(s) involved with the immediate group that also belong to those groups that just add their affiliations to them...

Did that make sense ?


And where is our letter encouraging ( that should follow the same format that they used )

How does one even know if they are not just from a list of Medical industry participants. :ohmy:

Good evening Classy!:)
 

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I first saw it early last week. The date on the document is May 4.

Ohsheesh...May 4...Thank you.

So then it passed since that May 4 date ?

(I have been trying to keep up at work...but for some reason work gets in the way ! )
By the way - my boss is a never smoker and doesn't vape...I vape at my desk.
He gets it.


Good evening @crxess
 

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Does anyone know when this amendment will be in front of the Senate?

It hasn't even passed the House of Representatives. That's where the next battle will take place. Write to your congressional representatives, folks!
 

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That's good--but only if I got it right... :lol:

We really need a new CTA from CASAA--I know they must be busy but this is kinda important.
This is their post from Sunday, for the FB allergic people.

There is a lot of discussion about two pieces of legislation in congress -- HR 2058 and "The Cole-Bishop amendment." Due to the way that FB works, and the way that tons of people use FB, we have closed comments on a couple of threads where the viability of these bills is being discussed. This is an effort to help tamp down the wild speculation about which bill to support.

The following is CASAA's current position on the matter. If you have any questions about it, feel free to comment here.

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The Cole-Bishop amendment has been accepted into an Agricultural appropriations bill that will be part of a larger budget bill going forward. It HAS NOT BECOME LAW. I would also like to include my comments that I have left on other posts related to this question:

I want to make something crystal clear. CASAA's position for the time being is that we support a change to the predicate date. Period. At the moment, "Support HR 2058" is our active vehicle for that message. Driving people to that engagement accomplishes two things:
1) It puts that message in front of lawmakers.
2) It gets people in our database so that we can more effectively activate them in the near future.

This conversation about which bill to support should not be framed in terms of one vs. the other. At their core, both pieces of legislation seek to achieve the same thing - Change the 2007 predicate date.

However, there are provisions of the Cole-Bishop amendment that CASAA is not yet comfortable with signing off on. This under no circumstances should be viewed as opposition to the amendment, we are just reserving our right -- on behalf of consumers -- to see if some other legislative solution becomes available. In fact, we have made no statement to the effect of "don't support the Cole-Bishop amendment." There is absolutely no reason to abandon one for the other AT THIS TIME.

To further clarify, VTA is a trade association. They are working to get the best deal for their members. This is one of those instances where the interests of industry may not be aligned with the interests of consumers. This is certainly not a slight to the efforts of VTA. However, it is another example of a clear line between the interests of consumers vs. industry. And, I should note, this does not mean we are pitted against one another. One of the core reasons why CASAA is so vital to this effort is that we can effectively represent a position that industry associations can not -- the voice of the consumer.
 

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I officially disagree with CASAA's position. There, I said it.

We should actively support BOTH, and there's no current CTA in support of the rider, which is heading for the floor as we speak. CASAA may not like some provisions of the Cole-Bishop, but it needs to issue a new CTA is support of it anyway.
 

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I officially disagree with CASAA's position. There, I said it.

We should actively support BOTH, and there's no current CTA in support of the rider, which is heading for the floor as we speak. CASAA may not like some provisions of the Cole-Bishop, but it needs to issue a new CTA is support of it anyway.
I feel your frustration!
I'm sure there is a reason there is no CTA at this time, but I sure wish I had some clue as to why.
 

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There's more. Cole himself, the author of the HR 2058, is endorsing this new approach.

Cole Responds to FDA Expanding Regulatory Authority on Tobacco Products

"I still believe that my bipartisan amendment, recently approved by the Appropriations Committee in the Agriculture Appropriations bill, provides the same framework for new tobacco products without needlessly subjecting small businesses to unnecessary regulations and without treating law abiding adults like naïve children.”

And CASAA won't actively support and back him? Because of ideological purity? The amendment is bipartisan, has cleared committee, would be very difficult to veto, and is now being under renewed attack.

Seriously CASAA? I already responded to your HR 2058 CTA three times. It's still in committee--looking dormant. Calling FDA might amuse someone, but it's a stunt. Please issue a new CTA in support of the Cole/Bishop amendment ASAP.

You can read more here, if you're interested (see page 3).

http://www.tasteyourjuice.com/wordpress/archives/12809
 
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I feel your frustration!
I'm sure there is a reason there is no CTA at this time, but I sure wish I had some clue as to why.

Frustration doesn't begin to describe it. Our very survival depends on what we do now. Now is not the time to split hairs over "some provisions of the bill." Both bills move the grandfather date, which is our only chance and hope right now.
 

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Frustration doesn't begin to describe it. Our very survival depends on what we do now. Now is not the time to split hairs over "some provisions of the bill." Both bills move the grandfather date, which is our only chance and hope right now.
You got that right!
They went from "Deeming" regulations to "Dooming" regulations really fast.:blink:
The fine folks at Halo felt the need to act, and act quickly... I'm feeling the urgency!
 
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