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Not sure if this is the right place. I'm wondering how others feel about this particular subject. Now I know all the bull.... propaganda the government and other uninformed people like to spew about how vaping is bad. My question is how people feel about the people in our community that have been abusing the situation. For exaple, vuse and blu seem to think it's ok to make vaping commercials. The same type of cigarette commercials that were banned, you know what I'm talking about. The commercials that glorify an addiction or make cigarettes look cool. It dosent just stop at TV tho, I see countless adds online and in magazines for these brands that have abused the situation. Tho we all agree vaping is good and is probably the best alternative to smoking traditional tobacco. We have to agree that these companies are giving us a bad name and imo they should not only be fined heavily but should have to awnser for what they have done. Am I the only one who feels this way?

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So those companies like Vuse and Blu should be fined because they're big tobacco companies that can afford to advertise?
Should the "Truth about vaping" which is a pro-vaping group be fined for doing a commercial?
I don't know about New Jersey, but in Alabama the only Vuse commercials I see are telling about their product and e-liquid, doesn't even show people vaping. So it's not "glorifying an addiction".
 

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I think vapor products, tobacco products, liquor, and any other adult products should be allowed to be advertised, just the same as pharmaceutical companies can utilize the media to sell there wares. Singling out any one industry and imposing restrictions on their right to free speech is just wrong.
 
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Do you think vaping leads to an addiction?

Do you think people should be discouraged from taking up vaping?

Do you think people need to be "protected" from vaping?

If you answer yes to any of those, I could see why you might have a problem with advertising. I personally don't equate vaping with smoking at all, and have no issues with companies advertising.
 

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Do you think vaping leads to an addiction?

Do you think people should be discouraged from taking up vaping?

Do you think people need to be "protected" from vaping?

If you answer yes to any of those, I could see why you might have a problem with advertising. I personally don't equate vaping with smoking at all, and have no issues with companies advertising.
I truly feel vaping is a safe alternative to smoking. By definition any hobby can be considered addicting especially when we're talking about products containing nicotine. Just depends on your definition of addicting. Belive me man, we are on the same side. I want vaping to stay. But I also think we need to understand that even though we may think these companies are here because they love us and they want to help us. They want to make big profits and if that means cutting corners and using products that are not fully tested they will. We should always assume if a company is able to get away with it they will. We can't just keep blindly using untested products just because it's "safer then smoking". Btw I really valued your statment and I think these conversations need to be had. I enjoy talking about products just as much as the next person, but we need to continue to educate and discuss these topics.

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Good for them. They have the funds to advertise. It can only help as far as I am concerned. Hopefully folks will see them, maybe even try their products and then check out better products. I personally see it as a win for vaping.
I see exactly what your saying and I personally think there should be commercials and advertisments. I would love to be able to vape anywhere I go but I understand the majority and I mean a BIG majority of peopel, no matter how much you educate them will say I see smoke and will cough. We live in a world were people will go out of their way to stand up for something just because they like to hear themselves speak. I guarantee eventually we will see some mothers against vaping group fighting advertisments. You know who I'm talking about, the instagram era parents.

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So you like vaping, but don't wish to see it advertised in any way? I'm not trolling here, just confused about what exactly you are upset about.
We don't need advertisment. Our results speak volumes. We don't need flashy colors and super fit guys with skin tight shirts on looking like Joe cool with a blu ecig. As I replied to some others I am 100% for vaping and the future of vaping. I truly belive they should not be advertised. I think it sends a bad message. But that's just my opinion.

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So those companies like Vuse and Blu should be fined because they're big tobacco companies that can afford to advertise?
Should the "Truth about vaping" which is a pro-vaping group be fined for doing a commercial?
I don't know about New Jersey, but in Alabama the only Vuse commercials I see are telling about their product and e-liquid, doesn't even show people vaping. So it's not "glorifying an addiction".
We have a blu commercial that literally has some cowboy looking guy in tight jeans and a tight white tee, looking like james dean leaning on a dock saying how smooth and real blu ecig are to the real thing. I feel if tobacco can not be advertised then vaping shouldn't be either. I also think alchol should not be advertised, I don't have children but I'm sure people aren't happy that sminoff vodka is advertising their berry vodka to their 16 year old daughter who is potentially very influenced.

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Since I started vaping I noticed the attacks upon it. If I want to vape then I sure as heck should be able too, and I am setting myself up so that I cannot be easily stopped. It's my money and my body. If they want to advertise vaping goods on TV, it's great.
But we have to understand if other adult products advertisments are regulated we must follow the same rules. Do you think children should vape? If not then we should not be advertising it. Since you enjoy vaping so much you should concern yourself with the people ruining it for the rest of us. We have to stand together as a community not fall divided. This is not ment as an insult. More of a these things need to be talked about situation. Happy vaping brotha

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But we have to understand if other adult products advertisments are regulated we must follow the same rules. Do you think children should vape? If not then we should not be advertising it. Since you enjoy vaping so much you should concern yourself with the people ruining it for the rest of us. We have to stand together as a community not fall divided. This is not ment as an insult. More of a these things need to be talked about situation. Happy vaping brotha

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I'll use this post as my starting point, just to make it easier.

All current data points to:
1. Nicotine, in our application does not lead to physical dependence. If you are already addicted to tobacco smoke, it can help alleviate that craving, but there is no evidence that new dependence forms in never-smokers.
2. In general, vaping is about as safe as breathing city air.
3. Vaping does not lead to smoking, it could actually prevent someone from picking up smoking, if they are inclined.

Yes, there are people out there who will see a vape commercial and think "the tobacco industry has found a new way to advertise to and hook our children." That idea is false. I would rather not affirm that false idea by saying that vape companies should not advertise. I would rather fight that idea with the truth. Some who hate tobacco will never stop, but they won't stop even if there are no vape commercials, they'll just move onto the next thing like flavors.

IMO the only way to truly fight against them is to fight the idea that vaping is equal to smoking, in every arena.
 
But we have to understand if other adult products advertisments are regulated we must follow the same rules. Do you think children should vape? If not then we should not be advertising it. Since you enjoy vaping so much you should concern yourself with the people ruining it for the rest of us. We have to stand together as a community not fall divided. This is not ment as an insult. More of a these things need to be talked about situation. Happy vaping brotha

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I don't watch TV. Have not had a working TV in my house since the switch-over to digital transmission. I've barely watched any TV since I began attending college around '93. I don't like their liberal agenda.

Many things are advertised on TV/Radio/Internet/Magazines... that tweens/teens cannot and should not do. Do I think homosexuality should be taught to my tweens/teens on TV? No. And that there is far worse than any cigarette.
 

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I'll use this post as my starting point, just to make it easier.

All current data points to:
1. Nicotine, in our application does not lead to physical dependence. If you are already addicted to tobacco smoke, it can help alleviate that craving, but there is no evidence that new dependence forms in never-smokers.
2. In general, vaping is about as safe as breathing city air.
3. Vaping does not lead to smoking, it could actually prevent someone from picking up smoking, if they are inclined.

Yes, there are people out there who will see a vape commercial and think "the tobacco industry has found a new way to advertise to and hook our children." That idea is false. I would rather not affirm that false idea by saying that vape companies should not advertise. I would rather fight that idea with the truth. Some who hate tobacco will never stop, but they won't stop even if there are no vape commercials, they'll just move onto the next thing like flavors.

IMO the only way to truly fight against them is to fight the idea that vaping is equal to smoking, in every arena.
We definitely agree on a lot of things. But I'm a big proponent that nothing that is specific to adults should he advertised because it sends the wrong message and vaping should be included. I'm just frustrated because I feel torn between defending something I feel strongly about but also feel strongly about advertisements and how they have more then gotten out of hand (not vaping specifically but drugs across the board). You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself turn into the villian. Fighting for vaping can save lives but at what point do we just sound like we are pushing our own selfish agenda.

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We definitely agree on a lot of things. But I'm a big proponent that nothing that is specific to adults should he advertised because it sends the wrong message and vaping should be included. I'm just frustrated because I feel torn between defending something I feel strongly about but also feel strongly about advertisements and how they have more then gotten out of hand (not vaping specifically but drugs across the board). You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself turn into the villian. Fighting for vaping can save lives but at what point do we just sound like we are pushing our own selfish agenda.

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Nothing selfish on us, it's the governments that are killing vaping to keep people on cigarettes and tobacco.

IF all the govts in the world want to save a billion lives, they should kill all tobacco use and immediately move people to vaping. PERIOD.
 
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