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"We Are Vapers"

Discussion in 'Vaping TV and Radio' started by TUS172, Jan 24, 2012.

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  1. MikenGA

    MikenGA Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 8, 2011
    As an 'online instructor', some of the instructional videos posted in my public pages have been called propaganda/advertising by naysayers...but it's just good instruction, presented for the purpose of sharing pertinent info with the people who have an interest in the topic.

    As for the production of a documentary funded by the people it represents, with proceeds going to the organization that represents those same people (and millions more like them), who's in a better position to spread the word that WE ARE EXCITED TO BE SAVING OUR OWN LIVES??

    If the documentary is well organized, some may still call it propaganda/advertising, but I expect the majority will more accurately define it as education. :2c:
  2. Dimitris

    Dimitris Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 14, 2011
  3. Flying W

    Flying W Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 2, 2011
    This is a great idea.Thanks for the info.
  4. Digimon2k

    Digimon2k Resting In Peace ECF Veteran

    Jul 29, 2010
    Sweet Home Alabama
  5. DC2

    DC2 Tootie Puffer Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 21, 2009
    San Diego
    I can't speak for them, but I have ZERO doubt the answer is "Hell yes please do!!"
    Personally I wish, hope, and pray that EVERY vendor does so.
  6. Dimitris

    Dimitris Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 14, 2011
    No problem at all. We were actually debating with the idea of sending them out to vendors to include with orders but the cost is adding up.

    Thank you for your support!
  7. Digimon2k

    Digimon2k Resting In Peace ECF Veteran

    Jul 29, 2010
    Sweet Home Alabama
    Excellent! Thank you for the permission!

    ETA: Alrighty! Figured out how to print these at a reduced size on heavy card-stock so they'll fit in my standard packaging and still look awesome! I'm using an HP Color Laserjet... I defined a custom page of 8.5 x 5.5. I send regular 8.5 x 11 stock through the printer printing just Page 1 (Acrobat Reader settings below), then rotate the stock 180* and print Page 1 again. Then I flip the stock and repeat for Page 2. Cut with a paper cutter (I use one for photos). Voila! 2 double-sided cards that'll fit in my standard packaging and, most importantly, are quite legible.

    Acrobat Reader Settings:

    Print Range: Current Page (with Page 1 or Page 2 in focus, depending)
    Paper Scaling: Fit to Printable Area
    Auto-Rotate and Center: Deselected
    Choose Paper Source by PDF page size: Deselected
  8. DC2

    DC2 Tootie Puffer Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 21, 2009
    San Diego
    DeejStuff just jumped to the front of the line for my next sample juice order!
    Any vendor that supports the community is going to get my support.
  9. bcordell70

    bcordell70 Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Nov 24, 2009
    Black Mountain, NC
    We had a blast at the Atlanta Vape Meet and getting to meet Dimitris, Linc, and the whole Vape Team crew was great..Ill also be adding your flyer with my orders ! Keep up the good work guys !
  10. YetiHunter

    YetiHunter Full Member

    May 26, 2011
    That opening sentence was nothing but condescending on my part. Didn't sound that way in my head
    at the time, but it certainly reads so.

    A more cordial feedback: perhaps labeling it something akin to "promotional video from the community" or
    anything relevant that would openly disclose that it is purposely biased would be beneficial.

    Only a suggestion, nasty sounding, but well meaning.
  11. Striker911

    Striker911 Moved On Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 7, 2012
    Mountain Home, AR
    I think the point he was trying to make was that he feels its wrong for people to profit off this film if the same people that helped fund it had no profit? He went out on a limb, but I think its a valid point.
  12. DC2

    DC2 Tootie Puffer Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 21, 2009
    San Diego
    Are you saying it could be considered wrong for CASAA to "profit" from the film if those that donated are not "profiting" from it?
    Because if not, then I'm not clear on what you mean.

    Nobody is profiting from the film because all proceeds are going to CASAA.
    So if you donate to the film, you are basically donating to CASAA, and that should be understood from the outset.

    But I was mainly wondering what the poster meant by "implore all to maintain a more accurate perspective on the matter".
    And if the outside world would be tempted to treat this as propaganda, I'm not sure how that could be avoided.
  13. NebulaBrot

    NebulaBrot Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 6, 2010
    in the NEBULA
    Actually, if you read these links: We Are Vapers | An Exploration into the World of Harm Reduction | We Are Vapers and We Are Vapers -- IndieGoGo you will see that no one is profiting - other than possibly CASAA which is no "profit" at all. The ENTIRE team is ALL volunteer - no one makes even a dime for their time or in ANY way (and we ALL are already spending considerable personal funds). ALL proceeds (if any) are already 100% pledged to CASAA. If there are any unspent funds raised - all such dollars go to CASAA.

    As it stands, this production is planned to be equivalent to a $300,000 (++) grade documentary. In such a film, much of the cost goes to production and post production editing staff. We Are Vapors already has all the equipment (or most of it) and qualified and experienced production and post production editing talent already on board and all volunteer. So, the fund raising effort is a very modest $20,000 goal and will only cover travel and the most basic of expenses.

    We appreciate ALL input but do request people to hopefully read the presented facts (included financial commitments). This is an effort by vapers, for vapers AND for the goal to educate the general public, potential Regulatory and Public Sector officials who will be evaluating and making legal and policy decisions, and for smokers who do not know what we already know - the tremendous benefits of Tobacco Harm Reduction and vaping.

    We are ALL in this together - lets DO this TOGETHER! :thumbs:
  14. Striker911

    Striker911 Moved On Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 7, 2012
    Mountain Home, AR
    I Think its good to know all that and helpful to get it all out so that people donating have a full understanding about what they are paying into. That being said this is a new industry and a very profitable one. What makes it seem like such a good deed is that a film would reach more people and help venders that make profit. Nothing wrong with that, and im all for it, but if your asking people that have no chance in heck of profit to help fund the film then thats where your questions come in and rightly so. Some people have no problem with donating money to help the people that have and need ecigs for the bennys and help boost sales for venders, in turn doing a part to help boost our damaged economy. As we all know not everyone is on the same page and that's okay.

    For people that have any doubt. We are pioneers in a battle with big tobacco. May not seem like it yet but mark my words it will seem like it in time. We need to get the educating information out for ourselves and others that need to quit smoking, as well as people that can hurt our industry, causing higher prices and the demise of many products we love. Many loved ones die every day from smoking as we all know. So rather someone makes a profit or not, should not come into question since no matter the outcome of that, we all are better off in a big way. So donate if u can. I am sure that if any other people not on board had any other reason for being on the fence that your questions are welcome here.
  15. Laffs

    Laffs Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 28, 2011

    I thought that as well, and finally followed through today. I depleted some funds to give to this great project, but not as many as I would have just thrown away buying analogs. :cry:

    I love the very ideal of this project and I thank those who are doing the work pro bono to get the word out!
  16. Tom09

    Tom09 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 22, 2009
    Bump, just because I really love the idea of this great project.
  17. emonty

    emonty Flavor Junky Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 15, 2009
    the Netherlands
    Great Idea!!!! Bump from the Netherlands!
  18. Digimon2k

    Digimon2k Resting In Peace ECF Veteran

    Jul 29, 2010
    Sweet Home Alabama
    I think this needs another bump...

  19. Striker911

    Striker911 Moved On Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 7, 2012
    Mountain Home, AR
    $6,210 to go and only 2 weeks left. Where is my tax return? I was sure it would have been here by now, and was told it would be on the 6th of this month. We need a big pull for the last 2 weeks. This is a positive investment for anyone that vapes. Lets show our power in numbers. The attacks have yet to come, and we need things like this for security, and future innovations. Help if u can.
  20. Vocalek

    Vocalek CASAA Activist ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Apr 7, 2009
    Springfield, VA
    At last week’s Society for Research on Nicotine and Tobacco (SRNT) conference, I had the opportunity to view the documentary film Addiction Incorporated. One of the most disturbing parts of the movie was near the beginning, when the research scientist describes how he was recruited by Phillip Morris. He said the company told him that they wanted him to look for an alternative ingredient to nicotine, because nicotine was causing over 100,000 deaths per year from heart attacks and strokes.

    Even though prominent SRNT members (including nicotine expert Dr. Neal Benowitz) were interspersed commenting throughout the film, none of them bothered to correct the scientific inaccuracy: Nicotine does not cause heart attacks and strokes. It’s the smoke itself!

    Our documentary film, “We are Vapers,” will not only tell the personal stories of many people who feel that their health and their very lives have been saved by vaping, but it will also work to correct the many misconceptions the public has about nicotine, tobacco, and health.

    Please help to close the gap.
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