What I hate about vaping

[kiwivap]

They report good conditions on what they are allowed to see and what they are told. I've seen some of the videos of those adolescents working away. Most of the videos are shot very cleverly to avoid you being able to tell they are young children. I'm not going to defend companies/countries who make children work.

You know they are adolescents how? We have a large Chinese community here and I known that 18 year olds can look younger. So you don't have any 18 year olds and younger working in factories in the US? We have teenagers who leave school and take factory jobs here.
Most of the videos are shot cleverly to avoid you telling they are young children? You know this how? The videos I've seen were filmed by Americans.

 

[Butters78]

Isn't that Finnish? And yeah - you do tend to knock anything made in China.

Ha yeah sorry I'm on my phone. Do I? Lol I don't remember half the stuff I say. Examples?

 

[Butters78]

Panasonic batteries are made in Japan.

This is true! I'm just addicted to the AW'S heh.

 

[kiwivap]

Ha yeah sorry I'm on my phone. Do I? Lol I don't remember half the stuff I say. Examples?

Not searching now Eric. But ok, since I didn't put them I'll just go with the one on this thread.

 

[kiwivap]

Here's a video by Nhaler of a visit to a China ecig factory:

 

[volume control]

Who do you think still ends up making your batteries?

 

[WooseyWid]

Ill be the first person to "knock" something just because its made in china.

 

[kiwivap]

Ill be the first person to "knock" something just because its made in china.

Then that is a bigoted perspective.

 

[flintlock62]

The Provari is made in the USA, and I don't think $212 for a starter kit is too expensive. I spent almost that much in a month smoking cigarettes. They also have the best warranty and will repair them outside warranty for a reasonable fee. You can get a blem for a reduced cost. Most of the blems are barely noticeable.

First off, I am very happy since I started vaping about a month ago. I don't miss analogs at all, I feel healthier and I have heard so many success stories of 2 pack-a-day smokers who switch to e-cigs and never look back. I believe that it is the best way to quit the dirty habit.

The problem I have is that all available hardware is manufactured in China. I am an American, I love my country, and I buy Made in USA products whenever possible. Through my experience, anything made in China is garbage andI feel that buying Chinese products supports slavery. Yes I am an hypocrite because I love my joytech 510 but at least I buy juice from US vender (HHV). I bet the worst American juice will still be better then the best Chinese juice.

I am shocked that people complain about the quality control of the manufactures. What do you expect? Its made in China by oppressed people making 35cents an hour.

Please feel free to critisize my rant. I don't have anything against Chinese people or global trade, just the governments who alows the exploitation of their people.

 

[WooseyWid]

Then that is a bigoted perspective.

Not at all. Like i said before, I don't have anything against Chinese people.

My perspective is based on experience. Chinese manufacturing pumps out countless amounts of garbage products and they have no concern about the quality. For example, all those childrens toys with toxic levels of lead.

 

[kiwivap]

Not at all. Like i said before, I don't have anything against Chinese people.

My perspective is based on experience. Chinese manufacturing pumps out countless amounts of garbage products and they have no concern about the quality. For example, all those childrens toys with toxic levels of lead.

Saying you'll be the first to knock a product based solely on where it was made, bigoted. We aren't talking about childrens toys, we're talking about ecigs.
Fortunately thousands of vapers don't see it from your perspective.

 

[WooseyWid]

The Provari is made in the USA, and I don't think $212 for a starter kit is too expensive. I spent almost that much in a month smoking cigarettes. They also have the best warranty and will repair them outside warranty for a reasonable fee. You can get a blem for a reduced cost. Most of the blems are barely noticeable.

I saw those on the website and when i buy, I will probably get the belm discounted one. I would wind up putting plenty of blemishes on it the first day probably.

 

[flintlock62]

That is my thought. It won't stay looking new forever.

I saw those on the website and when i buy, I will probably get the belm discounted one. I would wind up putting plenty of blemishes on it the first day probably.

 

[Butters78]

Not searching now Eric. But ok, since I didn't put them I'll just go with the one on this thread.

You know I love ya Kiwivap. Even though we may not see eye to eye all the time heh.

 

[kiwivap]

You know I love ya Kiwivap. Even though we may not see eye to eye all the time heh.

Yeah I know Eric. I'm glad you're liking the EA mod. They make a nice mod with that one. I'm still thinking about the 69 myself. I have a sort of shortlist I keep changing.

 

[flintlock62]

Harley's are much better than they used to be.

I agree with you. If I want one of the best motorcycles i would buy a Ducati from Italy, the best cigar from Cuba, and even the best silk from China.

I would also buy a Harley Davidson though

 

[WooseyWid]

Saying you'll be the first to knock a product based solely on where it was made, bigoted. We aren't talking about childrens toys, we're talking about ecigs.
Fortunately thousands of vapers don't see it from your perspective.

If they make toys with lead, why wouldn't they make e-cigs with lead.

I realized that almost every Chinese product I bought was garbage so now I try avoid buying Chinese garbage as much as possible. I buy American made products because it supports my country and they are quality products. This is the reason I made the OP and a lot of members here feel the same.

I know that however I explain myself you will still insult me, call me a bigot, and continue to be the only jerk on this forum.
I'm going to stop entertaining your "holier the though" attitude and just ask you to stop flaming this thread because I'm done replying to your comments

 

[Kilokey]

I hate being deployed overseas and running out of cartos..... Then ordering a z atty pro (zap) to find out I don't have a return visa and my leave is put on hold.

 

[babyk1352012]

I buy all my juice from the us, but I don't have a despensible income that would allow me to purchase a provari as much as I would like one. I have 15 month old twins and we survive off one income ( and its not much). 100$ for a mod is a huge amount to me. I was only able to get my zmax from extra money from Christmas. And yes if it breaks down on me, I will be complaining, because I barely have 20$ to my name at times. It's easy to criticize if you aren't in someone elses shoes though

 

[kiwivap]

If they make toys with lead, why wouldn't they make e-cigs with lead.

Who are "they"? Anyone Chinese? I haven't come across an ecig yet with lead. If an American manufacturer takes money for goods and doesn't actually provide the ecigs does that mean every American manufacturer is the same?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo.../324597-chopperguys-disappeared-our-mods.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/364181-jbox-issue.html

I'd say no, they aren't all the same. I wouldn't say I will be the first to knock American ecig manufacturers either.
Thousands of vapers would disgaree with you btw. Plenty right here on the forum in co-ops to buy direct from China too.