What I hate about vaping

[flintlock62]

If a person wants only American made products, then that's what I'm going to attempt to help that person with. He has his opinion, and that's what he wants. I don't think anything is accomplished by making counter points. My 2¢

 

[kiwivap]

If a person wants only American made products, then that's what I'm going to attempt to help that person with. He has his opinion, and that's what he wants. I don't think anything is accomplished by making counter points. My 2¢

I have no issue with that, and have seen threads where people simply ask that question. However, the OP did more than that, and if those comments are made then they can be responded to.
I'm standing by this:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...2-what-i-hate-about-vaping-6.html#post8598751

 

[flintlock62]

Then why not just let it slide?

I have no issue with that, and have seen threads where people simply ask that question. However, the OP did more than that, and if those comments are made then they can be responded to.
I'm standing by this:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...2-what-i-hate-about-vaping-6.html#post8598751

 

[kiwivap]

Then why not just let it slide?

Why not let everything slide? The OP insisted on digging a deeper hole. But yeah, we could just move on now.

 

[flintlock62]

Unsubscribed from this thread!

 

[Butters78]

Yeah I know Eric. I'm glad you're liking the EA mod. They make a nice mod with that one. I'm still thinking about the 69 myself. I have a sort of shortlist I keep changing.

The 69 is awesome. I considered it as well and maybe I'll get one down the road. I like to have a couple pvs loaded with different flavors for ease of use.

 

[budynbuick]

First off, I am very happy since I started vaping about a month ago. I don't miss analogs at all, I feel healthier and I have heard so many success stories of 2 pack-a-day smokers who switch to e-cigs and never look back. I believe that it is the best way to quit the dirty habit.

The problem I have is that all available hardware is manufactured in China. I am an American, I love my country, and I buy Made in USA products whenever possible. Through my experience, anything made in China is garbage andI feel that buying Chinese products supports slavery. Yes I am an hypocrite because I love my joytech 510 but at least I buy juice from US vender (HHV). I bet the worst American juice will still be better then the best Chinese juice.

I am shocked that people complain about the quality control of the manufactures. What do you expect? Its made in China by oppressed people making 35cents an hour.

Please feel free to critisize my rant. I don't have anything against Chinese people or global trade, just the governments who alows the exploitation of their people.

 

[Tanti]

I bet if you were to look around your house a good % of stuff is made in another country. Its become the exceptable reality.
The only thing I have with stuff made in china they dont have the same safety standards in making things, ie: doggy treats that were made in china made dogs sick and many have died. I would not use juices made in china.That is just asking for trouble.

The one thing that the e-cig has done for the chinese, it has given them more work. More money in the common persons pocket.
The thing I noticed in the video that was linked, they are waring brighter colored clothes, it used to be most wore black or grey all the time. They are westernizing slowly.

I can remember a time where alot of our products were made in Japan, Taiwan and Mexico.

Until people know what is going to happen with the FDA, the American companies would be nuts to invest alot into setting up factories here. And they know that.

 

[-MikeR-]

I agree, the stuff from China is crap for the most part. I avoid that stuff as much as i can.

Provari blem can be had for $140 and I run Panasonic batteries(Japan).

 

[kiwivap]

I agree, the stuff from China is crap for the most part. I avoid that stuff as much as i can.

Provari blem can be had for $140 and I run Panasonic batteries(Japan).

Of course Provape recommend the Pila charger as the best, which is made in China.

 

[chartreuse]

First off, I am very happy since I started vaping about a month ago. I don't miss analogs at all, I feel healthier and I have heard so many success stories of 2 pack-a-day smokers who switch to e-cigs and never look back. I believe that it is the best way to quit the dirty habit.

The problem I have is that all available hardware is manufactured in China. I am an American, I love my country, and I buy Made in USA products whenever possible. Through my experience, anything made in China is garbage andI feel that buying Chinese products supports slavery. Yes I am an hypocrite because I love my joytech 510 but at least I buy juice from US vender (HHV). I bet the worst American juice will still be better then the best Chinese juice.

I am shocked that people complain about the quality control of the manufactures. What do you expect? Its made in China by oppressed people making 35cents an hour.

Please feel free to critisize my rant. I don't have anything against Chinese people or global trade, just the governments who alows the exploitation of their people.

Spot on, man, you've really hit the nail on the head.

As you quite clearly allude to, the root of the problem is that Capital is free to move from country to country without let or hindrance, while Labour is blocked at every turn by immigration restrictions.

I'll look forward to vaping with you at the next "abolish immigration laws" rally.

 

[-MikeR-]

Of course Provape recommend the Pila charger as the best, which is made in China.

Tons of people say the Pila charger is the best. I don't use a Pila or the batteries from China that ProVape recommends and I never said everything made in China is crap, just most of it.

 

[kiwivap]

Tons of people say the Pila charger is the best. I don't use a Pila or the batteries from China that ProVape recommends and I never said everything made in China is crap, just most of it.

Ah - because you've tried every product made in China.

 

[-MikeR-]

Ah - because you've tried every product made in China.

lol


10char

 

[Ken_A]

OK - I buy American when I can. However, I have a sogi screen made in Korea because all the ones made in the US are crap and get terrible reviews. They warp and tear because they use sub-standard material. My high-end garden furniture is made in China. For a U.S. Company.
in the Vaping world, many good PVs are made in China and other countries. However, many countries do not have government regulations on quality control. As with ANY company, you have to vote with your wallet. There are many China made devices that are very good. There are many that are not. refusing to purchase something because they were made in china I would suppose is a personal preference. However if there was a China mod that I wanted and could afford, I would buy it.

 

[armchairnomad]

Fine, and you can do that without misinformation about ecig production. As for buying locally - maybe. Depending on the price. We are big on exports here, and trade. If a company here make a product I want for a reasonable price I might buy it - but I wouldn't express my preference the way you do.

So what...let people express their preference. The fact of the matter is that many Chinese are underpaid, forced to live where they work, and use materials in their products that are dangerous to people (lead based paints, etc..). However, America does this as well, as they allow products that many European manufacturers don't allow. I would rather buy American if I could afford it all the time as well. You seem to be extremely irked that someone is saying something negative about Chinese manufacturing. This confuses me.

 

[armchairnomad]

Ah - because you've tried every product made in China.

I haven't smoked every cigarette out there, but I still know they're all bad for you and taste like crap. Your argument holds no water.

 

[kiwivap]

So what...let people express their preference. The fact of the matter is that many Chinese are underpaid, forced to live where they work, and use materials in their products that are dangerous to people (lead based paints, etc..). However, America does this as well, as they allow products that many European manufacturers don't allow. I would rather buy American if I could afford it all the time as well. You seem to be extremely irked that someone is saying something negative about Chinese manufacturing. This confuses me.

I'm not extremely irked at all. I'm discussing ecigs, or pvs , or whatever some-one prefers to call them, not the entire state of Chinese manufacturing, or American manufacturing, or European manufacturing...
OP did say he welcomed any criticisms of his rant - so I see no problem responding.

 

[kiwivap]

I haven't smoked every cigarette out there, but I still know they're all bad for you and taste like crap. Your argument holds no water.

I'm discussing ecigs, not cigarettes. Since it is generally agreed that ecigs are not anywhere near as harmful as cigarettes, the logic you've just used would lead to the conclusion that all ecigs are good regardless of where made. I see a flaw in that kind of logic. Some are good, some are not. But I don't base that on where they are made. I just ordered an American made mod btw - not because its made in America, but because the price was right, I've wanted to try a bottom feeder, and it has good reviews from users.

 

[armchairnomad]

Ah - because you've tried every product made in China.

yes, you actually did defend the state of Chinese manufacturing.