While Waiting for my EQ- VV Bottom Feeder alternatives

[Friend of Atlas]

Hey Ukeman Jimho seems to be MIA lately (at least from this thread). But I found a pretty good explanation through battery university that may help you. Check it out.

One thing I learned from the article that I didn't realize previously was that batteries in a parallel connection (like yours above) double the mAh (capacity), but not the voltage, whereas batteries in a serial connection double the voltage, but not the capacity (that I did know).

My take from the article is that your batteries are best when used as pairs (or units if more than two) because whether in parallel or a series they are only as good as their weakest link.

A new cell has a higher capacity than the others, causing an imbalance

and I liked this analogy relevant to both the serial and parallel configurations,

Imagine a chain with strong and weak links. This chain can pull a small weight but when the tension rises, the weakest link will break. The same happens when connecting cells with different capacities in a battery. The weak cells may not quit immediately but get exhausted more quickly than the strong ones when in continued use. On charge, the low cells fill up before the strong ones and get hot; on discharge the weak are empty before the strong ones and they are getting stressed.

Specific to parallel configurations is

A high-resistance cell, or one that is open, is less critical in a parallel circuit than in serial configuration, however, a weak cell reduces the total load capability. It’s like an engine that fires on only three cylinders instead of all four. An electrical short, on the other hand, could be devastating because the faulty cell would drain energy from the other cells, causing a fire hazard.... A weak cell will not affect the voltage but will provide a low runtime due to reduced current handling. A shorted cell could cause excessive heat and become a fire hazard.

I hope that helps you make a decision and please keep in mind that from what I read the higher the voltages/capacity (like for a hybrid car) the greater the danger. However, we do put these devices closer to our bodies... so? Additionally I am not an expert, simple a layperson who did a little reading cause I find the subject mildly interesting and I worry (possibly excessively) about safety.

Footnote: all quotes are from Battery University, specifically the article titled "Serial and Parallel Battery Configurations"

 

[ukeman]

wow FOA! thanks... now to read it all..." i'll b' bach"

 

[ukeman]

thanks again FOA, and from my view, erring on the side of safety should be something i would do more of.

I will continue to run my dual batt pv's with set pairs although i can see it would be inconvenient if say one is a bad batt from the beginning. This happened to me, and as far as i know, notcigs is sending me a new set.

 

[jimho]

Hey Ukeman Jimho seems to be MIA lately (at least from this thread). But I found a pretty good explanation through battery university that may help you. Check it out.

One thing I learned from the article that I didn't realize previously was that batteries in a parallel connection (like yours above) double the mAh (capacity), but not the voltage, whereas batteries in a serial connection double the voltage, but not the capacity (that I did know).

My take from the article is that your batteries are best when used as pairs (or units if more than two) because whether in parallel or a series they are only as good as their weakest link. and I liked this analogy relevant to both the serial and parallel configurations,

Specific to parallel configurations is

I hope that helps you make a decision and please keep in mind that from what I read the higher the voltages/capacity (like for a hybrid car) the greater the danger. However, we do put these devices closer to our bodies... so? Additionally I am not an expert, simple a layperson who did a little reading cause I find the subject mildly interesting and I worry (possibly excessively) about safety.

Footnote: all quotes are from Battery University, specifically the article titled "Serial and Parallel Battery Configurations"

Good Stuff!!! I'm not MIA but bussy these days..... Great review!

there's more- in parallel all kinds of things happen - good and bad- to avoid the bad, always use two cells of the same type/brand/label age- best bet is to buy them new, use them in pairs and in parallel-charge them in pairs and try to swap right and left every time you charge..

IF you go to stacked (series), similar rules apply- buy them new, keep them in pairs and either always use the samew one top/bottom or always rotate top/bottom-there's two schools of thought on the subject of rotating and both have thier merits.

If you loose one out of a pair, generally speaking you should use the one that's left by itself. That said, iF you only used it a few times in a pair, you're probably fine replacing just the one that you lost ....YMMV.

 

[ken729]

did anyone get to mess around with the EQ at vapefest?

 

[Haadkoe]

Anyone heard anything about the EQ relaunch yet?

 

[MXBNW]

No word at all not even an update. I still get there sale news letters but nothing on the EQ.

 

[ken729]

DC posted on facebook that they were going to vegas vapefest and was bringing along EQ's for people to test out. I haven't heard anything yet tho.

 

[Shad0w]

DC posted on facebook that they were going to vegas vapefest and was bringing along EQ's for people to test out. I haven't heard anything yet tho.

Just get a ProVari or a Darwin and call it a day? lol

 

[want to quit]

I said it before I say it again they will not have a perfect version ready before mid 2012. It is such an amazing unit and it will take time to perfection it period. I would get my money back and just buy one when they got it ready without errors.

 

[MXBNW]

OK Rob from REO has posted an update and let the cat out of the bag in regards to the REO VV Mod

I have known this for a while and its good that the deal is complete and he can finally talk about it openly.

I talked to Rob this morning and the parts are still at least 3 weeks out and then he has to build them.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/224539-vv-reos-2.html

 

[misterD]

OK Rob from REO has posted an update and let the cat out of the bag in regards to the REO VV Mod

I have known this for a while and its good that the deal is complete and he can finally talk about it openly.

I talked to Rob this morning and the parts are still at least 3 weeks out and then he has to build them.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/224539-vv-reos-2.html

i was hoping for a partnership with provape or evolv and go with a booster regulator.

 

[MXBNW]

i was hoping for a partnership with provape or evolv and go with a booster regulator.

That would have been cool to. But I think this will be a good start for Rob to build a VV REO. Maybe in time he can strike a deal with one of them to build a boosted REO

One step at a time.

 

[misterD]

i have a feeling provape is gonna come with something new for the end of the year.

 

[MXBNW]

i have a feeling provape is gonna come with something new for the end of the year.

What are you hearing. Buddy Come on we got to know LOL

 

[Friend of Atlas]

What are you hearing. Buddy Come on we got to know LOL

I second this request!

Great news on the VV Reo. How long will I have to wait to get one though!! (not that Reo is slow, but that the demand will be so high )

 

[MXBNW]

I second this request!

Great news on the VV Reo. How long will I have to wait to get one though!! (not that Reo is slow, but that the demand will be so high )

When I talked to him today the parts are still at least 3 weeks out. He will start building as soon as he configures the mod and gets the parts.

The first one's will be Wood mods. He is working on a REO Grand VV design and when he gets the VV units will build the first prototype to insure his design will work and then order a few hundred body's for the machine shop.

He plans on building big not just a few but a few hundred at a shot so when they go on the site most every one will get a shot at them.

As I get Updates from Rob I will keep everyone on this thread uptoday

 

[Drumonron]

When I talked to him today the parts are still at least 3 weeks out. He will start building as soon as he configures the mod and gets the parts.

The first one's will be Wood mods. He is working on a REO Grand VV design and when he gets the VV units will build the first prototype to insure his design will work and then order a few hundred body's for the machine shop.

He plans on building big not just a few but a few hundred at a shot so when they go on the site most every one will get a shot at them.

As I get Updates from Rob I will keep everyone on this thread uptoday

Thanks for the update, MX...I'm a big fan of the REO Grands...continues to be THE ONE for me. Many challengers have come to attempt an overthrow of the thrown but they have fallen short.

This is big news from a reputable and known product.

Keep us informed MX.

FYI, I emailed DigitalCiggz for an update on the EQ(month in after returning) and got know response whatsoever.

 

[jimho]

i have a feeling provape is gonna come with something new for the end of the year.

I'd say that's a given..... If you look hard enough through Provape's posts, you'll find it...

 

[ukeman]

for real? a provape product? or is it a partnership thing like reo/buzz?

I'd say that's a given..... If you look hard enough through Provape's posts, you'll find it...