No your cigalike does not do clouds of vapor, but if there were 10, 15, 20 people all sitting there using their cigalikes it would become clouds of vapor. This is not about one person vaping in an enclosed space, it is about a lot of people vaping in an enclosed space, and if one is allowed to do it the rest will follow. The whole thing is about being considerate of others, and the people with dragon breath are as inconsiderate as the smoker, vaper, cologne bather, etc.
Apparently, this is about many things, as you have stated it.
I currently vape openly in places I go. I don't vape everywhere I go, because it sometimes depends on my mood or how harsh I think owner/managers will be if I were caught in middle of puff and how much I'd like to return to that place. But as I have recently vaped in a hospital, openly, there aren't too many places that I think someone could name where I wouldn't give it the ol' college try.
In my experience of public vaping, in biggest metro area in state of Wisconsin, I haven't seen more than 1 vaper in any location I've gone. So, for me, it isn't about how many of us will congregate in places where we are allowed to do it.
Which brings up a bunch of other points. Mainly, it would be better, I think, to have people vaping say in a mall, in various places than it would be to designate a section where clouds will likely happen because theoretically we've crammed 20 vapers into this enclosed space. Also, it would matter what ventilation is like in this space or any space. In a mall, or hospital, or home depot, if me and 20 other vapers, all using cigalikes are roaming the entire property, I'm fairly certain clouds wouldn't form. Yet, get all 20 of us in one area, that is poorly ventilated, and all using cigalikes, and I'll admit that if for some reason we all felt compelled to chain vape at same time, there would be potential for thin cloud, or a haze that would be in the room. I still think it would dissipate a lot faster than same room filled with smokers who were all chain smoking. Yet, in both rooms, if there was good to great ventilation, I'm thinking there would be very little haze even if you had 40 vapers in that room.
Now same scenarios with people that use devices where vapor is meant to go in and come out thick, and I'm guessing (don't really know) that chances are good the haze and clouds would be more substantial in these spaces. I'm still thinking with great ventilation it would be negligible.
Yet, I must say, and will admit a bias upfront, that part of having common sense in vaping community could be to only use cigalikes if going into public space that is enclosed. And not congregating unless establishment does allow vaping but only in designated area. Currently, if I and another vaper were going to some small shop, I probably wouldn't vape, even if my vaping friend chose to. Or if I did, it would be sparse in how much I chose to puff. If I were alone, I'd have a different mindset.
I know you do not even think cigarettes are bad, but I think every smoker at some point in their lives should have to spend quality time with someone who is choking to death in the final stages of lung cancer and realize that cigarettes DO kill many if not most of the people who smoke them over a long period of time and the second hand smoke, while the health problems from same is debatable, does addict the children of parents who smoke around them every day.
All possible. I concede that. I am child of parents who smoked every day around me. Made it to at least age 40 in life and able to get out myself and exercise often. Plus I chose to take up smoking. So, if it is going to kill me, and I'm going to pass away say in my 60's, I'd like a rather unbiased examiner to be as thorough as possible with what are truly factors in my passing, rather than just being lumped in with smoker/ex-smokers cause of how convenient that may be.
I don't think smoking causes death as I feel there is enough examples here on this forum and many other places on this world where people are defying that causal relationship. I think it factors in, but feel there are umpteen other things that factor in as well.
Morever, this has to do with abuse. You are correct that I don't think of smoking as bad because I now live as moderate smoker. So all these wonderful pros for vaping that we vapers bring up, I get to experience. And yet, I am one who, if being honest, has to claim myself as 'smoker' because I've chosen to have at least one in the past week, and probably will have at least one in the next month. But I've seen for many months now that when you don't abuse smoking and go down to around a pack a week or less, all those evil, nasty things that allegedly smoking will undoubtedly do to one's health, isn't exactly accurate with moderate smoking. In my past experience as a PAD smoker, I would say it seems accurate. But other than bottled water, I don't know of any other marketed substance that when abused (taken in heavy doses because one enjoys them that much and feels they need to have it many times a day) isn't actually harmful to your system. I'm thinking I wouldn't want to see a person lying in a hospital bed who ate way way too much guacamole in their life and is now paying the price for that 'addiction.' Yet, I'm still going to enjoy my guacamole binges that I engage in about once ever 2 weeks after seeing / hearing about the poor sap that suffered from guacamole abuse.
