Why Do People Knowingly Buy Clones?

[Bikenstein]

Every review I've read of my "Fallen Angel" (EA mod clone by EHPro) says it is actually BETTER quality than the original Electric Angel -- I know there are some updates of the original EA design, so maybe they've improved it, but apparently the machining and threading of the Fallen Angel is far superior to that of the Electric Angel -- which costs about $100 instead of $40-ish, and which was itself a clone of a GG mod, so maybe THAT one is superior, but since it costs a freaking fortune, I'll never know. And my knowledge of that particular mod is fairly sketchy, since I've never actually seen it on sale ANYWHERE; the very few places that actually carry it, have always been out of stock when I'd go www-rampaging for info about it.

Andria

Andria, I lost my service last nite when I was replying to your message. I'm not sure you understand my position on clones versus originals. My position is that it's not my business to criticize what people do with their money. Only the excessively rich, morally perfect ones with an elevated sense of self worth can do that

 

[AndriaD]

Andria, I lost my service last nite when I was replying to your message. I'm not sure you understand my position on clones versus originals. My position is that it's not my business to criticize what people do with their money. Only the excessively rich, morally perfect ones with an elevated sense of self worth can do that

I agree completely!

But I also agree that many times, the clones are BETTER than the "originals." That's not why I buy them -- that's down to being poor, and not giving a hoot about "status symbols" -- but it's a nice benefit, when true.

Andria

 

[Darryl Licht]

Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

Are those sold in the USA? I highly doubt it! If so, Apple would be on top of that like a dog in heat!

Any other cloned "electronics" examples available here in the USA???

--- Also to all those who use clones but posted about not wanting a $200 "status symbol", then why do you own a copy of a $200 status symbol??? Especially when there are plenty of authentic options that are the same price as your clone??? ---

 

[stevegmu]

Go ahead and scroll up, to the Apple clones I posted

What is that supposed to prove; there are also counterfeit phones? Yes, and? If there is something I can't afford at the time, like an Hublot, I save for it or buy something else, not a counterfeit. Not sure how it suddenly became ok to buy counterfeit products...

 

[Bikenstein]

I agree completely!

But I also agree that many times, the clones are BETTER than the "originals." That's not why I buy them -- that's down to being poor, and not giving a hoot about "status symbols" -- but it's a nice benefit, when true.

Andria

My original point was the "clones" of the istick are the same identical mod, not better or worse. And the sticks are so affordable it's not worth waitin for the slow boat from China unless you have enough gear to do you until it gets delivered. In that case, you qualify as an excessively rich, highly intelligent worthy one .........just don't let anybody know you bought a clone

 

[USMCotaku]

Are those sold in the USA? I highly doubt it! If so, Apple would be on top of that like a dog in heat!



Any other cloned "electronics" examples available here in the USA???



--- Also to all those who use clones but posted about not wanting a $200 "status symbol", then why do you own a copy of a $200 status symbol??? Especially when there are plenty of authentic options that are the same price as your clone??? ---

We have already been over that, earlier in the thread. It's not about the name, or status, for most of us....its about the function and form of specific styles we like. So far, my favorite mech for feel, weight, durability, button and voltage drop combined is the panzer style. I like everything about that mod, but can't justify the price tag of an original, hence the 1:1 clone.

 

[USMCotaku]

What is that supposed to prove; there are also counterfeit phones? Yes, and? If there is something I can't afford at the time, like an Hublot, I save for it or buy something else, not a counterfeit. Not sure how it suddenly became ok to buy counterfeit products...

The reason for that post was to show, contrary to some previous postings of others, it's as prevalent in other industries. The reason you don't see them as much in the US...... Those other products ARE patented/trademarked etc...pretty solid proof that the process works. Until modders start using the processes laid down to protect their goods, they have no room for complaint if they are copied

 

[AndriaD]

Are those sold in the USA? I highly doubt it! If so, Apple would be on top of that like a dog in heat!

Any other cloned "electronics" examples available here in the USA???

--- Also to all those who use clones but posted about not wanting a $200 "status symbol", then why do you own a copy of a $200 status symbol??? Especially when there are plenty of authentic options that are the same price as your clone??? ---

Because there is NOTHING that works as well as the Kayfun design, whether clone or authentic. I've tried many others, and "clearos" SUCK. I don't like my RSBT at all. The tobeco kayfuns I have are the best vape i've ever had. So I'll keep buying clones of kayfuns, because I can't afford $100 for a tank!

Andria

 

[stevegmu]

The reason for that post was to show, contrary to some previous postings of others, it's as prevalent in other industries. The reason you don't see them as much in the US...... Those other products ARE patented/trademarked etc...pretty solid proof that the process works. Until modders start using the processes laid down to protect their goods, they have no room for complaint if they are copied

Yes, in China... Who do you think opens every box shipped from China looking for counterfeits? Patents, trademarks and copyrights are meaningless in China. Counterfeit iPhones has proven that...

 

[Bikenstein]

If you choose to have your products manufactured in China, then don't be surprised if they clone and sell em cheaper.

 

[zoiDman]

If you choose to have your products manufactured in China, then don't be surprised if they clone and sell em cheaper.

Yeah... And if a Country buys a Boatload of your T-Bills, don't be surprised when they Laugh at you if you Ask them to Please do Something about Clones/Counterfeits.

 

[stevegmu]

If you choose to have your products manufactured in China, then don't be surprised if they clone and sell em cheaper.

No one else has the manufacturing base to make millions of i products... I would pay for a US made iPhone, but not many would. People are cheap....

 

[crxess]

My original point was the "clones" of the istick are the same identical mod, not better or worse. And the sticks are so affordable it's not worth waitin for the slow boat from China unless you have enough gear to do you until it gets delivered. In that case, you qualify as an excessively rich, highly intelligent worthy one .........just don't let anybody know you bought a clone

Sadly people no longer even consider any Branding as simply Re-badged Same Same.
All of the iStick clones are likely re-badged.
Many Clone coil Heads are just O.E.M. white box originals.

Youngins

 

[Darryl Licht]

Because there is NOTHING that works as well as the Kayfun design, whether clone or authentic. I've tried many others, and "clearos" SUCK. I don't like my RSBT at all. The tobeco kayfuns I have are the best vape i've ever had. So I'll keep buying clones of kayfuns, because I can't afford $100 for a tank!

Andria

Which Kayfun model are you referring to as having the best vape?

 

[Bikenstein]

No one else has the manufacturing base to make millions of i products... I would pay for a US made iPhone, but not many would. People are cheap....

I don't think it's so much that people are cheap as it is that they're broke. I know people that will clip and use every coupon they can and wait for a sale to do that, plus wait until they have to make more than one errand to justify spending the gas money to get there. But the same people are extremely happy to generously share those same goods with you any time any day.

Edit: To stay on the vaping subject, A lady from California found out I had broken my plastic tank section in my Rose V2 and sent me hers in the mail after insisting on it. I think it was from a clone but whether it was or not, I would be almost positive that she is a frugal person with only a moderate living.

 

[stevegmu]

I don't think it's so much that people are cheap as it is that they're broke. I know people that will clip and use every coupon they can and wait for a sale to do that, plus wait until they have to make more than one errand to justify spending the gas money to get there. But the same people are extremely happy to generously share those same goods with you any time any day.

Most people are horrible at managing money, but here are less expensive alternatives which aren't counterfeits...

 

[Darryl Licht]

Most people are horrible at managing money, but here are less expensive alternatives which aren't counterfeits...

I agree with both points 100%!

 

[zoiDman]

I don't think it's so much that people are cheap as it is that they're broke. ...

Could be.

I just find it Strange that Many People had the Money to buy Cigarettes Every Month. But now they need to Buy a Counterfeit because they Don't have any Money.

And to makes things Worse, some of their Profile Picture shows Row after Row of Mods neatly Organized in order by Size.

 

[Darryl Licht]

Could be.

I just find it Strange that Many People had the Money to buy Cigarettes Every Month. But now they need to Buy a Counterfeit because they Don't have any Money.

And to makes things Worse, some of their Profile Picture shows Row after Row of Mods neatly Organized in order by Size.

Precisely! Seems to me it's an oxymoron!

 

[Bikenstein]

Most people are horrible at managing money, but here are less expensive alternatives which aren't counterfeits...

I know people who are horrible at managing their money. And I wouldn't advise anyone to make purchases above their means. I don't know most people like you do but I'm not even positive that any of the rebranded mods are not done with the consent and profit of the original manufacturers. Kawasaki Motor Co. sold bikes to American Eagle in California who marketed them in the states..