Why Do People Knowingly Buy Clones?

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Excellent point, although inexpensive products do get cloned. There isn't as much vanity/exclusivity related to a $30 product as there is with a $100 product.

There is Also that "Nature of our Better Angles" thing that Lincoln made Famous.

When a Genuine eleaf istick cost 29.95$ and a Clone/Counterfeit cost 25.95$, many people will feel it is better to give their Money to the Company that Forked Out the Bucks to come out with the Idea. And Should have the Right to not have their Product Ripped Off.

But when it get's to be more than about 5 Bucks, a Lot of this Thinking goes Out the Window.
 

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Spot on.



Load of crap. Just because you can't afford something doesn't mean it's priced too high or that the seller is making an inordinate amount of money. It just means that your job has been so devalued by bad trade policy that you can now only afford products from distorted markets.

Who said I can't afford anything or buy from "distorted markets" ?? Just because you have a point of view it doesn't entitle you to run your mouth so eloquently :)
 

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Actual Value? I think that would be an individual assessment. But manufacturers do set MSRP's above what they consistently sell their items for and make their necessary and desirable profits from the lower prices. In 20 years of manufacturing, I've found that many people would rather pay a higher price and be happier with their purchase because it tends to make them feel they have gotten a better quality. While others just want to feel better by haggling you down.
 

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Setting a Price Point Isn't always as Simple as just going with the Highest Price the Market will bear.

If I have a New APV and set the Price at 29.95$ Retail and think I will sell 100,000 Units verses setting the Price at 74.95$ Retail and only sell 40,000 Units, which one will I generate More Profit for me?

But here is a Big Question. Which is More Likely to be Cloned/Counterfeited?

The one being Marketed at 29.95$ or the one at 74.95$?

What is your production, sales, fulfillment and support capacity?
 

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You asked the theoretical question. You ignored a huge number of issues that completely change the answer.
You clearly tried to lead the answer, but you came at it strictly from a consumer standpoint.

Some can Argue that Overhead Costs in Many Cases are Directly Proportional to the Amount of Units Sold. So the Amortized Expense of such Cost is roughly the Same per Unit for any given amount.

What my post was Pointing Out to Steve was that Maximum Profit is Not Necessary Dependent on setting the Highest Price for and Item. But can be Achieved thru Volume Also.
 

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Capacity is a more comprehensive term.

In manufacturing, Most people refer to "Capacity" as the Amount of Ability to do something. So if I ask someone what there iStick fabrication capacity is, I might receive an answer of 15,000 Maximum units a Month. Or if I ask what the Shipment Capacity of iSticks is, I might be told that we can Ship 25,000 per Month without using Over Time.

But of course, words can have different Meanings.

What were you Referring to when you used the word "Capacity"?
 
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But here is a Big Question. Which is More Likely to be Cloned/Counterfeited?

The one being Marketed at 29.95$ or the one at 74.95$?

I used to think that anything that was priced low and was also good would not get cloned. Then Tobeco cloned the Mutation X that sells for around $25. I've seen the clone at around $12.

There goes that theory :rolleyes:
 

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I used to think that anything that was priced low and was also good would not get cloned. Then Tobeco cloned the Mutation X that sells for around $25. I've seen the clone at around $12.

There goes that theory :rolleyes:

$12? That is Highway Robbery ............... according to the Clone to Original Scale :lol::lol::lol:
Should be $5 Tops:)
 

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When you buy really cheap stuff, you often compromise quality. Many of the better clones are a bit more expensive, but still nowhere near the price of the authentics. A higher quality clone can be fantastic... often better than the authentic versions.
Authentic Samurai has janky threading. HQ clone fixes this.
Vapetech pegasus hits harder than authentic and it has deeper engravings.
Ameravape Manhattan is a pipe bomb, Ameraclone FUhattan vents properly, so the clone is a safer mod for all vapers.
Authentic Plume Veil 1.5 has horrible machining issues, HQ clone does not.
CCI Copper Tank Mod is a harder hitting single tube compared to the Authentic Copper Panzer.

Granted, this is not always the case, but in general for anyone who takes the time to research manufacturers and willing to spend somewhere around $30 to $60 can end up with some really great clones. But an $8 mod or atty from Fasttech is most likely going to be garbage.
 
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