Why Do People Knowingly Buy Clones?
- Thread starter Darryl Licht
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
i love how this thread went from "clones" to "counterfeits"
but retail is what retail is, whether authentic or clones.....one site might sell an item for $100 while another site is selling it for $50.....supply and demand I guess, if people are willing to pay that price then why wouldn't they charge that price? And the convenience level of the buyer willing to shop around....
anyways...i said my 2 cents worth (not so much in this thread but in many predecessors) but this thread I can't help but laugh....see the same people making the same vague arguments and twisting words things to bend to their ideas.....
anyway, have fun and enjoy
at least for the most part this thread has remained mostly friendly banter
but retail is what retail is, whether authentic or clones.....one site might sell an item for $100 while another site is selling it for $50.....supply and demand I guess, if people are willing to pay that price then why wouldn't they charge that price? And the convenience level of the buyer willing to shop around....
anyways...i said my 2 cents worth (not so much in this thread but in many predecessors) but this thread I can't help but laugh....see the same people making the same vague arguments and twisting words things to bend to their ideas.....
anyway, have fun and enjoy
at least for the most part this thread has remained mostly friendly banter
i love how this thread went from "clones" to "counterfeits"
but retail is what retail is, whether authentic or clones.....one site might sell an item for $100 while another site is selling it for $50.....supply and demand I guess, if people are willing to pay that price then why wouldn't they charge that price? And the convenience level of the buyer willing to shop around....
anyways...i said my 2 cents worth (not so much in this thread but in many predecessors) but this thread I can't help but laugh....see the same people making the same vague arguments and twisting words things to bend to their ideas.....
anyway, have fun and enjoy
If it looks identical, is sold using the same name as an authentic, has the same markings and packaging and even made in stamp, it is a counterfeit...
yes if it has the logo then that is counterfeit or even if it doesn't have a logo and states that it is authentic (but obviously not) then that would be a counterfeit
clones are just that a clone...a look a like, not someone trying to pass it off as the authentic but as a similar product.....same shape, design, no marking or trademarks and not claiming to be from the authentic company....
would facial tissues be a counterfeit of kleenex (actually that'd be the other way around)? would pepsi be a counterfeit of coke? back in the day would windows be a counterfeit of mac (don't answer that
)
I mean how many products are on the market that are clones of each other but under their own branding and just ever so slightly different (sometimes not really any difference other than the name brand)
clones are just that a clone...a look a like, not someone trying to pass it off as the authentic but as a similar product.....same shape, design, no marking or trademarks and not claiming to be from the authentic company....
would facial tissues be a counterfeit of kleenex (actually that'd be the other way around)? would pepsi be a counterfeit of coke? back in the day would windows be a counterfeit of mac (don't answer that
)I mean how many products are on the market that are clones of each other but under their own branding and just ever so slightly different (sometimes not really any difference other than the name brand)
yes if it has the logo then that is counterfeit or even if it doesn't have a logo and states that it is authentic (but obviously not) then that would be a counterfeit
clones are just that a clone...a look a like, not someone trying to pass it off as the authentic but as a similar product.....same shape, design, no marking or trademarks and not claiming to be from the authentic company....
would facial tissues be a counterfeit of kleenex (actually that'd be the other way around)? would pepsi be a counterfeit of coke? back in the day would windows be a counterfeit of mac (don't answer that
I mean how many products are on the market that are clones of each other but under their own branding and just ever so slightly different (sometimes not really any difference other than the name brand)
There is a difference between a similar product and one sold as a clone/counterfeit of another...
Price Gouging Law & Legal Definition
[edit] not exactly "laws" but info about them
Price gouging - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
From your Wiki Link...
Yes, Many States have "Price Gouging" laws. But None of them Apply to goods sold in a "Free Market" environment.
The Plywood Example that Bunny sited is a Classic Example of something being sold during a Time of an Emergency.
If you can show me how Selling a Mod can fit into some type of Price Gouging, I would like to hear it. About the Only thing I can think of would be Collective Price Fixing.
But that would fall more under Collusion.
I honestly have no idea why this post was made, not everyone can spend $100s on their devices, just like asking why everyone is buying Ferraris and porsches...
Are people buying kit cars of Ferraris and Porsches in mass numbers?
A couple cartons of cigarettes cost, what, the price of a genuine mod and atty?... Did vapers not smoke? Seems these destitute vapers get a lot more vape mail than I do, yet cry about the price of non counterfeit mods...
the only reference that I could think of in terms of price gouging would be along the lines of a monopoly to then raise prices....
i was simply posting links as to what bunny was stating
I mean, they create the product so they can set a sale price however they see fit, now whether or not someone will pay that price is the unknown
but yes it could be price gouging if lets see vendor a buys out vendors b,c,d,e,f,g, ect because they sell their juice at a lower cost than vendor a and as such buying them out now raises the price of juice across the board becoming a monopoly to corner the market......make since?
(sorry it's hard to debate, or even keep a train of thought with a 5 yr old bugging ya every 2 seconds cuz they don't wanna sleep)
i was simply posting links as to what bunny was stating
I mean, they create the product so they can set a sale price however they see fit, now whether or not someone will pay that price is the unknown
but yes it could be price gouging if lets see vendor a buys out vendors b,c,d,e,f,g, ect because they sell their juice at a lower cost than vendor a and as such buying them out now raises the price of juice across the board becoming a monopoly to corner the market......make since?
(sorry
it's hard to debate, or even keep a train of thought with a 5 yr old bugging ya every 2 seconds cuz they don't wanna sleep)
i liked that one, i mean in terms of counterfeits yes it makes a lot of since, in terms of clones....no not really....I could just imagine the response one would get if arguing with the manufacture about how they could be a counterfeit much cheaper
be about the same principle as contacting tech support for an illegal download of a software cuz it wasn't working correctly
the only reference that I could think of in terms of price gouging would be along the lines of a monopoly to then raise prices....
i was simply posting links as to what bunny was stating
I mean, they create the product so they can set a sale price however they see fit, now whether or not someone will pay that price is the unknown
but yes it could be price gouging if lets see vendor a buys out vendors b,c,d,e,f,g, ect because they sell their juice at a lower cost than vendor a and as such buying them out now raises the price of juice across the board becoming a monopoly to corner the market......make since?
(sorry
I know what you are saying.
But here's the Concept.
Is the Product that the Monololizing (sp?) company sells at an Inflated Price Essential?
If One company could somehow Buy up ALL the Cigarette Companies and then turn around and Jack Up the price for a pack of Smokes, then Yes, that could be Considered Price Gouging.
But if One Mod Maker sets a Prices for their Fancy-Dancy Mech Mech Mod at 500 Bucks, but there are all these Other Mech Mods on the Markets at Reasonable prices (10 ~ 100$), then No, it Isn't Price Gouging.
Because even if it could be Argued that Owning a Mech Mod is Essential, the are other Mech Mods that can Satisfy this Essential Need.
BTW - 5 Year Olds can be a Handful under Normal Conditions. But when they Get Cranky, well, Isn't Parenting a Joy.
Last edited:
I would love to see a picture of your Otto Carver authentic mod....
Otto Carter - Art world renowned Engraver - Does not make mods, makes them personal
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en...sedr...0...1ac.1.61.img..0.11.615.qKi-XYShb7M
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en...sedr...0...1ac.1.61.img..0.11.615.qKi-XYShb7M
Doesn't do anything for me. The engravings make it a great mod? I imagine there are clones...
does anything being authentic make it great? nope... there are alot of makers who have authentic junk out there... the engraving makes it look better and seriously, no one is going to take the time to engrave a mod to clone it.... too much effort and time would be required
Sure there are clones.
The authentic Surefire King is a clone of the Chi-you.
Slap a lion pic and a snappy logo and for $230 you too can own an authentic clone and impress all your shallow friends with how well you spend your money.
Surefire has a heavily engraved version that costs close to what that Otto C mod sells for.
A fool and his money are easily parted.
You keep being the troll, Steve, and I'll keep being the Billygoat.
a couple of cartons of ciggies is far from the price of lets say an authentic Skeleton Key mod and a Origen Genny V2 ( which comes to about 450$)
- Status
Similar threads
