i love how this thread went from "clones" to "counterfeits"
but retail is what retail is, whether authentic or clones.....one site might sell an item for $100 while another site is selling it for $50.....supply and demand I guess, if people are willing to pay that price then why wouldn't they charge that price? And the convenience level of the buyer willing to shop around....
anyways...i said my 2 cents worth (not so much in this thread but in many predecessors) but this thread I can't help but laugh....see the same people making the same vague arguments and twisting words things to bend to their ideas.....
anyway, have fun and enjoyat least for the most part this thread has remained mostly friendly banter
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yes if it has the logo then that is counterfeit or even if it doesn't have a logo and states that it is authentic (but obviously not) then that would be a counterfeit
clones are just that a clone...a look a like, not someone trying to pass it off as the authentic but as a similar product.....same shape, design, no marking or trademarks and not claiming to be from the authentic company....
would facial tissues be a counterfeit of kleenex (actually that'd be the other way around)? would pepsi be a counterfeit of coke? back in the day would windows be a counterfeit of mac (don't answer that)
I mean how many products are on the market that are clones of each other but under their own branding and just ever so slightly different (sometimes not really any difference other than the name brand)
Price Gouging Law & Legal Definition
[edit] not exactly "laws" but info about them
Price gouging - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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As a criminal offense, Florida's law[2] is an example. Price gouging may be charged when a supplier of essential goods or services sharply raises the prices asked in anticipation of or during a civil emergency, or when it cancels or dishonors contracts in order to take advantage of an increase in prices related to such an emergency. The model case is a retailer who increases the price of existing stocks of milk and bread when a hurricane is imminent.
In Florida, it is a defense to show that the price increase mostly reflects increased costs, such as running an emergency generator, or hazard pay for workers, while California places a ten percent cap on any increases.[3]
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As of 2008, laws against price-gouging have been enacted in 34 states. Price-gouging is often defined in terms of three criteria listed below:[6]
1.Period of Emergency: The majority of laws apply only to price shifts during a time of disaster.
2.Necessary items: Most laws apply exclusively to items which are essential to survival.
3.Price ceilings: Laws limit the maximum price that can be charged for given goods.
Just curious with all the uproar over counterfeit products in this industry, why so many vapers knowingly buy clones?
Seems counterproductive to me...?
I honestly have no idea why this post was made, not everyone can spend $100s on their devices, just like asking why everyone is buying Ferraris and porsches...
the only reference that I could think of in terms of price gouging would be along the lines of a monopoly to then raise prices....
i was simply posting links as to what bunny was stating
I mean, they create the product so they can set a sale price however they see fit, now whether or not someone will pay that price is the unknown
but yes it could be price gouging if lets see vendor a buys out vendors b,c,d,e,f,g, ect because they sell their juice at a lower cost than vendor a and as such buying them out now raises the price of juice across the board becoming a monopoly to corner the market......make since?
(sorryit's hard to debate, or even keep a train of thought with a 5 yr old bugging ya every 2 seconds cuz they don't wanna sleep)
Are people buying kit cars of Ferraris and Porsches in mass numbers?
A couple cartons of cigarettes cost, what, the price of a genuine mod and atty?... Did vapers not smoke? Seems these destitute vapers get a lot more vape mail than I do, yet cry about the price of non counterfeit mods...
I would love to see a picture of your Otto Carver authentic mod....
Doesn't do anything for me. The engravings make it a great mod? I imagine there are clones...
Doesn't do anything for me. The engravings make it a great mod? I imagine there are clones...
Are people buying kit cars of Ferraris and Porsches in mass numbers?
A couple cartons of cigarettes cost, what, the price of a genuine mod and atty?... Did vapers not smoke? Seems these destitute vapers get a lot more vape mail than I do, yet cry about the price of non counterfeit mods...