But first time I had that one, it was almost a religious experience.
Hmmmm..... I'll have what he's having!
Why do people who stop vaping go back to normal cigarettes?
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Hmmmm..... I'll have what he's having!
I have friends who are hardcore vapers with provaris and foggattis and stuff from Greece. However, from time to time, like drinking sessions and other social occassions, they still go back to analogs. really blows my mind. but then again, everyone's different.
I haven't shared this story before, and I'll go into the longer version some other time, but in 1989 when I was 19 and my Mom was 56, she had a massive heart attack that killed off 2/3's of her heart. Both my parents were heavy smokers (I often had to run to the drugstore with one of my siblings for "Silva Thins" for them!!) Sometime in the early 80's my Dad did Smoke-enders and it worked - he never smoked again, but Mom still did. Because of the damage, her heart could not work well enough and she was constantly going back to the hospital for weeks at a time in congestive heart failure. In July, 1990 we were told she needed a heart transplant - again, this was 1990 - this was not as common as it is now and it was terrifying. Again, long story, details for another time, but on November 16, 1990 she was being discharged, again, from a hospital in Newark, NJ when we got the call - a 16 year old boy had been killed 2 miles away and she was getting his heart. To this day I still can't say that or write that without choking up - how a parent makes such a brave decision at such a tragic time is beyond me. She was the 11th heart transplant done in NJ and the 4th one done that week. Now note - it was 5 years AFTER seeing her go through all that I went from a random social smoker to a full time smoker, soon a pack and a half a day smoker.
But, my point is that maybe 8 or 9 years after the transplant, she told me this: One day, she was walking upstairs with the laundry basket from the basement and thought to herself "I'll just have a cigarette and then bring the basket up to the 2nd floor". It took her a minute to remember "oh wait - I haven't smoked in 9 or 10 years!" This was a woman who went through the worst you can imagine and still had that thought. I think a part of it becomes so ingrained in you - and it's not really the nicotine that you want, not when it's been so long - in this case, she wanted her "reason" to stop what she was doing and rest. For a lot of people, like me, like my Mom - that cig was permission to slow down and sit for 5 minutes. If you did that without the cig, it doesn't feel right - like you are doing something wrong/lazy, etc. A lot of smokers and ex-smokers are riddled with anxieties and fears and failure is one of those fears. I know I've been my own worst enemy with quit attempts in the past. There is just such a psychological pull towards smoking - it's easy to let that get the best of you.
My Mom passed away in 2002, not due to her heart but it was still a smoking related death.
I wish I could like this post 10 times.
A cigarette break. Those short times during your day--the first one with your coffee, before you head out the door, the one in your car on the way to work, the lunch break, that cigarette you'd have before you started cooking dinner... All those moments, rituals, that helped us get through the day. Those short 5-minute intervals when we allow ourselves to sit down and think and rest--because we have an excuse to do so.
You are so right. And I'm sorry for your loss.
I went back the first time. I just don't think that I was ready. When I got serious about losing weight and exercising I thought to myself that smoking was just dumb. 25 years of 1-2 packs a day. Haven't had one in 10+ months. Vaping make the transition much easier than otherwise.
Lots of great flavors out there. I haven't even scratched the surface myself.
I always suggest looking for vendors who do "sample packs". You'll want to try different ones, find the ones you really like. I think it makes a big difference finding the flavors you really enjoy. It "pulls" you toward the vaping and away from the cigs. Heh, my cigs never gave me blueberries.
MBV... Mount Baker Vapor? I haven't bought from them myself but I see folks here talking about them often.
Oh boy. Another site to bookmark.
How do you find vendors that offer sample packs?
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Almost all of them do, Sassi. They either offer sample packages (you have to buy 5 or 10 3 ml bottles)) or they offer 5 ml bottles.
Oh just as you gather bookmarks of sites people recommend, check to see if they offer them. A lot of the liquid vendors do. Like, oh, I just bookmarked Mom & Pop since folks talk about them often and their site has this: Samples. I'm going to order their Tobacco Pack when I get a chance. I'm finding sweet flavors I like but not yet a tobacco like flavor (but want one... I like Blu's version, their "Classic Tobacco", so I want to try finding some others).
Lot of the vendors offer samplers of several flavors. It's a great way to try out several and see which ones you like most.
Thanks a bunch! sorry to the OP for derailing this thread
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All the posts in this thread have been very interesting, and I've really enjoyed them. I've been vaping for a little over a month now, and I've been wondering about what it will be like to try a real one...but I haven't done it.....yet....but I'm sure I will at some point. The reason I've quoted Off Topic is because I feel that taste is a very important part of the equation, and especially for those who are new at this. I would say that for me, I never really liked the taste of cigarettes, even though in my mind I thought it sure tasted good when I had a smoke after doing without for a while. But I know that whenever I switched brands, it was often because I had found one that tasted the "least" bad of the choices I had. What I'm getting at is that for me at least, many of the flavors of juice that I've tried not only tasted bad, but were downright disgusting. I can easily see how a newb would discard the entire idea of taking this up if all they've tried is a few of those nasty juices. I've been through about 50, and have found maybe two or three that I think are VERY good, and about 5 or 6 others that are ok. Most of the rest of them were awful. That's not very good odds when you think about it, since most newbies are lucky if they can try very many right off the bat. Many of them make the mistake of looking for a cig-a-like taste too, which we know simply doesn't exist.
(On a side note, I just tried a new cola flavor today (I've tried a few other colas as well) and it seemed ok, but not overwhelming. But just now I went into the kitchen and got one of my wife's pepsi's, since I've run out of cherry coke. When I opened it and took the first sip, it tasted almost exactly like the new cola flavor! Now I'm typing and sippng pepsi and vaping the new cola, lol. Maybe THIS flavor will get my wife interested in giving vaping a go, she still smokes but loves pepsi.)
Many of the juices I've tried left a foul taste in my mouth that was not only bad, but would linger for many hours (Cinnamon Roll comes to mind) and were difficult to get rid of. Some lingered so much that I was still tasting them when I went to vaping my favorites, and it's not because I'm using the same device. This is only my opinion of course, but I feel that when a newb tries to take up vaping, they may not realize it, but they are not only looking for something to replace the addiction for nicotine, but also something that they feel can replace the almost CONSTANT aftertaste they know, deep down or subliminally, will become a part of their everyday life if they decide to take this up instead of smoking. I believe that with both real cigarettes or vaping, if you use the same thing for a long period of time, the aftertaste is still there, but becomes a part of your tasting experience so much that it's no longer noticed. The taste just kinda drifts into the background of flavors we experience since we are getting so much of it. I think that is how we come to accept the awful taste that real cigs give us without revolting. Like I said earlier, I never really liked the taste of cigarettes, but just used them so much that I no longer noticed how bad they tasted.
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Ive got them bookmarked having heard so much good about their products from folks around ECF. But at the moment, have a few sweet ones I like and am looking for some... not so sweet. Savory I guess is the word? Something like that.
Definitely want to try HHV. Their liquids sound great...
Well spoken. I've written a couple of very personal blogs, that I just wanted to share to all of us who struggle each and every day. If your interested, their on my profile so maybe I could help just one person. Even though I can't help myself.
So easy for some to say. And if I could I'd shake your hand and also your dad's.
As a person that uses WTA juice (thanks Jerry), and I also use General Swedish snus along with it. Be educated in your decission. Read all the FAQ's on their website before you hit the comfirm purchase box.
for me at first it was drinking now I stick with my e cig. its good for people that use e cigs to stick together at my work I go out with the smokers on break and they try to get me to go back to regular cigs they laugh at my e cig and blow smoke at me all that does is make me realize how much they stink. ill just keep vaping away and saving money.
Well then I apologize! I didn't actually read the entire thread, I only responded to the first post. It's all good
peer pressure was part of my problem my first time about 3 years ago people looking at me all crazy and i just got tried of trying explain it this time been vaping almost a year and don't care what other people say I'll made it my hobby like others have said just two weeks ago co worker referred to me as pot head because of my equipment skull head drip tip some people just down things they don't understand i just laughed at him and said no its still just nic
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