Why do so many people want to build to 0.1ohm?

[roxynoodle]

I've just read my second thread in less than a week from someone who just got a mech or an rba and immediately wants to vape at 0.1 ohm. Are we not doing a good job here teaching people Ohm's Law and battery safety? I guess this might explain the recent rash of battery accidents. Is it B&Ms telling people this is how they should vape?

Not sure, but it concerns me Potential for more accidents in public, and what if there are children in the home?

People, please don't push batteries past their limits, and learn Ohm's Law before delving into building.

 

[T4T3Z0R]

Ive never understood it myself. The safety aspect depends on the batteries and mod though. 2 vtc4s in parallel could pull the ~37 amps needed. cant imagine its a super pleasant vape though

 

[ReigntheGamer]

They probably saw someone on YouTube do it and ain't got time for all that learning.

 

[tj99959]

The problem is measuring 0.1 ohm. A cheapo micro-ohmmeter costs about $600, a decent one about $3,500. Thinking you're going to be accurate with a little $25 atomizer ohm reader is a pipe dream when the resistance is that low.

 

[minitater]

It's kind of like the car hobby. Some folks want to soup them up, run nitrous, advance the timing and blow themselves up for fun. I assume most all "hobbies" have their tinkerers.

 

[pwheeler]

I can't imagine that would even be a comfortable vape. But the ones doing that are out for the clouds, the bigger the better. It definitely doesn't do the vaping industry or us, any good at defending vaping as a good thing, especially when there folks build so low that accidents are bound to happen. I love a nice, warm, thick vape, but that's not just uncomfortable, it's dangerous.

Sent by REO vapor

 

[tj99959]

It's kind of like the car hobby. Some folks want to soup them up, run nitrous, advance the timing and blow themselves up for fun. I assume most all "hobbies" have their tinkerers.

However my test equipment for that car engine cost closer to $50,000

 

[bullet08]

if there is a button, it was meant to be pressed. if coil can be built to .1 ohm, it has to be done... even if it's not very safe practice... i'm rather surprised that someone hasn't vaped using straight wire.

 

[pennysmalls]

I'm going to the Vape in the Fort convention here in Fort Wayne Indiana on the 28th and for the cloud competition their face book page states the builds cannot exceed .05 ohm. I messaged them to ask if that was a typo and am waiting to hear back. Part of me doesn't want to go now because I don't want to support that kind of foolishness, if it's not a typo.

 

[roxynoodle]

Well, I tried to point out to the first one that 0.2 ohm pulls 21A, which leaves a safety margin on a 30A battery. He told me his wife is an expert builder and she vapes 0.1ohm all the time. This was on a mech, and I assmed one battery, not dual in parallel. I think he said it was a Stingray he got IIRC. No one even backed me up on that thread. Its not like I'm being overly cautious here.

The lowest I build is 0.4ohm and I've always gotten a satisfactory vape on a mech. Heck, I have builds over 1 ohm I vape on mechs and get good flavor and decent clouds (Eviva-t and Erlkonigin).

The second wants to do it on an Orchid, which I think will melt the insulators.

 

[roxynoodle]

I'm going to the Vape in the Fort convention here in Fort Wayne Indiana on the 28th and for the cloud competition their face book page states the builds cannot exceed .05 ohm. I messaged them to ask if that was a typo and am waiting to hear back. Part of me doesn't want to go now because I don't want to support that kind of foolishness, if it's not a typo.

Yeah, that would make me stay home, or at least stay far away from the competition.

I know some people like to live on the edge, but a battery accident puts others at risk of injury or death. If you live alone and don't take it out of the house, have fun. But, don't expose others to it.

 

[pwheeler]

I went to Vape Blast in San Antonio, and they had those competitions, but didn't go to those. There was a guy who had a double 26650 mod with a .02 build on it. His was the one that vented and burned into an unrecognizable mess. They cancelled all remaining competition and it's probably why they have set build limits, although .05 is way too low. I build from .25 up to .4. That's plenty warm enough for me.

Sent by REO vapor

 

[Light Seeker]

When I first started vaping .5 ohm was unheard of. And discouraged. Now they're dropins for popular cartomizers. Seems like mfgs are pushing these along with 100+ watt box mods, uneducated new vapor thinking is the lower the ohm, the better the vape.

 

[philoshop]

It's human nature to push at whatever envelope there is. In many ways it's a good thing. Innovation necessarily involves a bit of risk.
OTOH, taking uncalculated and unnecessary risks is somewhat foolish, but it's become part and parcel of growing up and being a rebel in a risk-averse society.
I've spent my life being paid to do risky things like climbing trees and racing cars and motorcycles. Vaping is my escape from that.

 

[Enoch777]

I'm with you Roxy, that's flippin' crazy!

Lowest I'll do is .4Ω and I much prefer .5Ω, anything lower and you're just begging for a tragic accident. We all knew this was risky when we started, that's why you give at least .2Ω leeway. Not because you expect a short but because you know the only thing you should expect is a worst case scenario.

I can see aiming for a .3Ω build, it's novel and its pushing the limits (reasonably) within the confines of safety. Really is it even necessary these days having APVs that can pump 50+ watts?? Can you even taste juice at 147 watts? The only reason I still do sub-ohm is because I'm too in love with my mech to ever cheat on her.

I'd say "to each their own" but as somebody else mentioned already, this does not give us a good image having the equivalent of adrenaline junkies running around with potential pipe bombs in their pockets.

Vape safe! Vape healthy! THAT'S THE POINT!!!

 

[tj99959]

However .......... I do remember when many thought 1.5 ohms was crazy stupid, and the Provari had a 2.5 amp limit. There were even 4 & 5 ohm atomizers for those that wanted to vape at 6 volts or more.

 

[DavidOck]

Pushing the envelope... yeah, I can see that that's what some are into. But personally can't see why.

I vape to not smoke, and didn't fill rooms with one exhale then, so don't feel compelled to do that now.

And about low ohms? Member Rusirius has a great blog post (well, 2) on that:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...bout-sub-ohm-latest-vv-vw-devices-part-1.html

With that excellent exposition in mind, why sub-ohm at all? Be safe and happy.

 

[roxynoodle]

I have a motorcycle, and its a sport bike. Its not the fastest I could buy, but its faster than it needs to be. I've done track days to improve my skills. I used to race motocross. And competed in eventing with my horses, which is not a sport for sissys. So I'm not quite an old lady yet. But, blowing up mods isn't my idea of fun.

 

[edyle]

I've just read my second thread in less than a week from someone who just got a mech or an RBA and immediately wants to vape at 0.1 ohm. Are we not doing a good job here teaching people Ohm's Law and battery safety? I guess this might explain the recent rash of battery accidents. Is it B&Ms telling people this is how they should vape?

Not sure, but it concerns me Potential for more accidents in public, and what if there are children in the home?

People, please don't push batteries past their limits, and learn Ohm's Law before delving into building.

The messages being put out by the industry itself doesn't help:

1: Aspire SUBO
2: Kanger SUBTANK

 

[anendeloflorien]

Because it looks cool?