So what amount of nicotine do the experts say you are actually absorbing when smoked if not 24 mg?
Why I Don't like Nic Salts
- Thread starter John Phoenix
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
So what amount of nicotine do the experts say you are actually absorbing when smoked if not 24 mg?
No, numbers have Nothing to do with it. The effect nicotine has on the human body has everything to do with it.
I'll add that people vape for many reasons not just for the nicotine. Bringing something.. could be anything to your mouth is part of the habit. Having that to rely on is part of the habit if it has nicotine or not. I can see those who use higher nic vaping the same amount during the day than they would with lesser nic because the act of vaping itself is part of the habit. In truth, I really believe the habit is way more than the nicotine. If you suddenly gave people no nic ejuice.. many will never notice.. and they would still vape.. because vaping satisfies those other hand to mouth cravings. I can also see those using higher nic may slow down on vaping because the nic makes them sick but not all. I've gone as high as 35 with my DIY juice and after few puffs felt terrible so yes, I can see it both ways but thats not the same for everyone. The point is more than the nicotine itself has to be taken into account.
Last edited:
I can't stand it when I refer to the 3000+ mgs of 'pharma products' that I take daily as drugs and my father says "They're not drugs, they're medicines.". Sometimes when I'm talking with him on the phone I tell him to stop drinking coffee or taking aspirin, and he says "Why?"..
Just curious about what level mg does that apply to being smoother than freebase?do you vape at 6 or 3 which is most common in sub tanks.
I can see what mr phoenix is getting at here. Nic salt has its place, but the market needs to understand the good and the bad. Especially the perception and before touting it as the greatest thing since penecilin.
I ignored them when the TPD's 20mg/ml nic limit made me assume they'd be a lost cause. I'm sure they work well, but I like the throat hit from freebase.
I've never had that "first cigarette in hours" rush from vaping. Can nic salts give you a glimpse of that?
I should try them some time. I can't complain until I do
I've never had that "first cigarette in hours" rush from vaping. Can nic salts give you a glimpse of that?
I should try them some time. I can't complain until I do
I haven't found this to be the case, even for the first puff of the morning. Your mileage may vary.
As far as I can tell, nic salts do not absorb any differently than freebase. I'm currently vaping 15mg whether I'm using a carto or an RDA. I couldn't stand half that concentration with freebase. It's harsh. I don't put PG in my juice for the same reason. I want as little harshness ("throat hit") as possible.
THIS conversation is the exact reason I came back to ECF after years. I couldn't understand how Juul was such a high nic level?
Now I understand it exactly. I'm curious enough to maybe even buy one (or a similar device) and try it out in places my REO stands out like the box mod it is. Thank you everyone for your input.
Now I understand it exactly. I'm curious enough to maybe even buy one (or a similar device) and try it out in places my REO stands out like the box mod it is. Thank you everyone for your input.
There's no question that nicotine is a drug, and just like almost every drug out there, different people react differently to it.
It's a stimulant until it isn't. This happens relatively rarely, but there have been times when I've woken up in the middle of the night and not been able to get back to sleep until I had a puff or two from the vape I keep on my night stand. OTOH, when it's time to wake up in the morning, it lifts the fog out of my brain more quickly than the coffee that soon follows.
Cigarettes are less of a stimulant that straight nicotine is for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the carbon monoxide they put in your blood, which displaces oxygen. Then there are the other alkaloids and MAOIs in tobacco that produce some relaxing effects. The latter effect is immediately obvious to me via a good WTA liquid or an IQOS.
I've tried no-nic juice. I find it utterly boring and unsatisfying. I've tried reducing the nic in my juice, even very slowly, and found myself vaping more to compensate.
Rather than speak in vague terms of 'smooth' and 'harsh', I think it's more precise to say that freebase is spicy and astringent while salt nic is comparatively flavorless.
Last edited:
A Juul is certainly easier to conceal. The catch is that Juul is an "infamous" thing that most people will recognize, while many of them would have no clue what your REO is.
Size comparison:
Nicotine is odorless and tasteless. It produces a sensation similar to that of capsacin, which also has no flavor of its own. With freebase nicotine this sensation is more pronounced than with salt nicotine.
"Peppery" is another term many use with freebase.
But yeah, salts don't have that "kick" unless you are doing 50 mg or so.
I think if you are after a good throat hit freebase is the way to go if you like frequent vaping. 50 mg salts do the trick as well, but for me that's too much nicotine typically.
Well I guess the question is also becomes How much caffeine is too much.. nobody regulates that but nicotine and caffeine are exactly both, a central nervous system stimulant and a vascular constrictor. - I don't Care How legal it Is.. I'm asking - Is there a Point where it's Too Much and then causes the Harm you are Trying to Prevent in the First Place? I believe that's reasonable to discuss. Don't you? Good banter Btw.. I appreciate it.
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
- Locked
