Why I'm fed up with the vape community (mostly)

[fuelfiredesire]

Generalizing people into a hipster young punk genre is just plain wrong. The media is having a field day with the junk science and scare tactics associated with vaping, so please don't turn on your fellows. I vape on drippers around smokers especially, and I have gotten a lot of converts that way. The smoke hut at work is now the vape hut, and still some cling to their stinkies saying "those darn kids"!! A guy who just got his first ego this week scorned me once saying I looked like a clarinet player. But people can change their perceptions based on the simplest things, like the way the juice tastes, the money we save, or even the clouds I make.
Can't knock it till you try it.
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[regal55]

I'm 42 yo, and I sub ohm. Nothing dramatic just two 1.5 ohm coils on a brass monkey dripper. Its so superior to tanks like the KFL there nis just no comparis. Easier to build, better flavor and better vape. I use a Sigelei 30 or a tobeco 30w. Not in public this is after dinner. I don't see how the association with sub-ohming gives vapors a bad name that is just silly IMHO.

 

[Heavyrocker]

Mean while we have the Japan radiation still flowing into the oceans/Russia invading Ukraine,Ebola,etc...and your concerned about water vapour?

 

[ImThatGuy]

totally predictable - someone says "Beef Chimichangas are really tasty, but they are really high in fat and carbs. People with gall stones should avoid them." and a thousand people will pick that statement apart, offended that he had to choose a Mexican food, or that people with gall stones eat them all the time and don't get intense pain.

I'm actually eating one right now while I browse through the forum...no joke...IT'S GOOD!!!

 

[Ryedan]

Mean while we have the Japan radiation still flowing into the oceans/Russia invading Ukraine,Ebola,etc...and your concerned about water vapour?

Well, this is a forum about water vapor ...

 

[ImThatGuy]

Well, this is a forum about water vapor ...

I see what you did there...touché

 

[Shootist]

I'm not fed up with all of you. Just most of you.



Now, vaping has descended into something that borders on the absurd and ridiculous. I cannot belong to any groups on facebook any longer because its filled with sub ohmnig, cloud chasing ...... who MUST have enough vape from three drags so that their living room resembles an Ozzy concert circa 1987.



Everyplace I go now there are poorly dressed, tattooed, pierced hipsters who've taken over and co-opted vaping. They are all snobby about it too, mentioning how great they are at sub-ohm coil building and flashing their high end gear. Here's a thought hipster...buy a slightly cheaper mod and maybe you'll be able to afford a bar of soap!



AND YOU DAMN KIDS, GET OFF MY LAWN!!

Great post and I totally agree. Although I've only been vaping for 4 months I find most of this Sub-Ohm and cloud chasing stuff ridiculous.

Thanks.

 

[Racehorse]

Now, vaping has descended into something that borders on the absurd and ridiculous.

eh. Even a year or 2 ago, we referred to these types as the "vapefamous". Some people desperately need a sense of "belonging" and those types tend to get cultish.

In a few years, those kids will be ........... doing something else. Back in the 70s it was hot pants, wide collars and platform shoes and Holly Hobbie stationery, leisure suits and mood rings..........In the 80s it was big hair, neon spandex and Sony Walkmans, and playing Space Invader on your Atari or fiddling around with Rubik's Cube.

this too shall pass.........but the Golden Age of Vaping has come and gone, it's just a big commercial venture now and a lot of money grabbing.

I'm sure there are plenty of regular people, white collar types, who vape quietly and aren't stars of youtube or cloud blowing competitions.

Meanwhile, anybody can buy a bunch of PVs, wear an armband, build a coil and get a tatoo. The price of admission is a bar set pretty low..... I mean, there's nothing particularly *heroic* about vaping, after all.

The idea that anyone is ruining anything is absurd. Anyone who thought a product that was going to go into the human body wasn't going to go under the magnifying glass was either very naive or just dreaming. All these kids do is draw attention to the fact that people *ARE* vaping....and like anything else, the envelope gets pushed. They are not, however, the reason for the FDA etc. or anything else of that sort.

Commercialism, marketing and money grubbing in the USA is like a dominating force, so do expect vaping and all the stuff the OP wrote about to just get bigger before it subsides a bit. The vendors are encouraging cloud contests, they want to make Sales......

 

[regal55]

Great post and I totally agree. Although I've only been vaping for 4 months I find most of this Sub-Ohm and cloud chasing stuff ridiculous.

Thanks.

It doesn't have to be sub ohm. An RDA with two 2 ohm coils in parallel gives 1.0 ohms, this gives amazing flavor and vape. There is nothing like it. Its best experienced in the comforts of home but until you've experienced the flavor you really can't judge.

 

[Anjaffm]

I joined in 2011, have been vaping 3 years now. When I started, the cartomizer had just been invented, people were still for the most part using egos and cigalikes and the variable voltage mods has just taken off.

Hehe. Same here. Nov 2011, and the eGo T was the best starter set around.

Maybe I'm just getting old. Maybe my inner curmudgeon is emerging. Maybe I'm just a cynic.

Same here. On all three counts. Hehe

We have now, the FDA about to take away all sorts of rights and so few vapers really care about this. They aren't interested in anything but the equipment and how cool they can look vaping. PUT THE SOLDERING IRONS DOWN AND WRITE A LETTER TO YOUR CONGRESS PERSON.

I fully agree.
It is amazing to see how many vapers do not care in the least about the attempts by big government and big business to restrict / prohibit /de-facto ban our healthier alternative.

Maybe those sub-ohm people consider vaping all a big fad - to fill their rooms with vapor, just for the heck of it - and they will happily go back to smoking when vaping is de-facto banned. Heck, in another forum I read about one guy who can go through 30 ml (!) of liquid per day (!) with that kind of sub-ohm stuff. I was like "What the heck????". To me, such behavior is silly and wasteful - a fad. Nothing but a fad.

Well, I do not intend to go back to smoking. And I would be happy to see more vapers who share this attitude and who get off their butts and write to those in power.

 

[Anjaffm]

I agree with just about everything you said... except this. The only ones responsible for the regulations and public outcry are 1) the fascist ANTZ who just HAVE TO have everything their way, who are sure they know EVERYTHING and to hell with any opinion other than their own; 2) the Big Gov't lackeys who are looking after the settlement/tax bottom line; and let's not forget 3) BT and BP who both stand to lose a huge amount of money from smokers switching to vaping. It's about 90% about the money, and about 9% the idiot fascist ANTZ, and then maybe 1% those tattooed, pierced, grody hipsters making obnoxious spectacles of themselves.

But otherwise... agreed. This is really supposed to be about reducing harm to ourselves (and others) by not setting fire to tobacco and breathing the smoke, not about how cool ("kewl?") we can be or what giant clouds we can blow. Cigarette smoke does NOT make "monster clouds" and "monster clouds" are NOT required, for vaping to be a satisfying substitute.

Andria

Absolutely!

 

[Anjaffm]

Ok... I stopped reading the thread on page 10.
*yawn* Same old drivel. Everybody and their cousins taking exception to an older person not understanding all these "cool" (kewl?) young people who use vaping as a fad, and only one - ONE! - person (up to page 10) reacting to the "Write to your congress person" request and mentioning that they submitted a comment to the FDA.

I totally agree. I vape to stay off cigarettes and like nice stuff and good juice, but don't understand the cloud chasing, sub ohming. I also believe in being respectful in where and how i vape, and yes I have submitted my FDA comment! Come on people, Its so important to all of us!

Thank you, dhhock50

Oh yes, by the way, today is 8 August, the last day that you guys and gals in the States can submit comments to the FDA.
The FDA is the government agency that currently intends to pass a de-facto ban on vaping as we know it and that has asked for comments from the citizens.
You know - this "FDA submission last chance 8/8/14" sticky on the top of the forum....

It is a good idea to submit a comment. Even if it is only so that those bureaucrats cannot say "we did not know".

And now, feel free to carry on with the regular scheduled programming ..... hipsters and no hipsters.... tattoos and no tattoos ... and whatever makes your putter flutter... while happily ignoring the part about writing to the congress person or the FDA....

- You need not flame me for making this statement. I will only laugh to myself. Might be quite amusing to see page upon page of postings trying to abuse me for saying what I did, by the same people who would never use the same amount of time writting a letter to the FDA or their "elected representatives"

 

[Asbestos4004]

After a year and a half, I still haven't seen the cloud chaser population shoving big clouds in the faces of innocent bystanders. Its the same bs rant over and over.
I've seen plenty of clearos in the checkout line though. Atlanta is a pretty advanced vaping community. New stores popping up by the day. You'd think I'd have witnessed at least ONE display of a hipster cloud chaser abusing his equipment and offending everyone around him. Nope. Not once.
I'm 48. I started vaping to quit smoking. It worked. Vaping has advanced into a hobby for me. I sub ohm, I use kayfuns, I use whatever I want. I don't care if you approve or not. I don't hide my vaping, nor do I shove it in anyone's face. I'm courteous and I use common sense. Some people don't.
To conclude that all the rude, inconsiderate vapers are sub ohmers or obnoxious cloud chasers is inaccurate. To say that they are responsible for all the friction with the fda and potential regulations is downright hilarious.

 

[Asbestos4004]

Side note....why assume its young cloud chasers or old cloud chasers that haven't submitted comments or written their respected representatives? It seems to me, they'd be the first ones in? They're doing a bit more research than the casual ego vaper....they're more likely to be informed of the importance of acting now.
I submitted my comment a month ago. Nobody had to try and shame me into it. Dang, there's some seriously judgemental folks running around these days. I think assuming and profiling are more offensive than sub ohming.

 

[Shootist]

eh. Even a year or 2 ago, we referred to these types as the "vapefamous". Some people desperately need a sense of "belonging" and those types tend to get cultish.

In a few years, those kids will be ........... doing something else. Back in the 70s it was hot pants, wide collars and platform shoes and Holly Hobbie stationery, leisure suits and mood rings..........In the 80s it was big hair, neon spandex and Sony Walkmans, and playing Space Invader on your Atari or fiddling around with Rubik's Cube.

this too shall pass.........but the Golden Age of Vaping has come and gone, it's just a big commercial venture now and a lot of money grabbing.

I'm sure there are plenty of regular people, white collar types, who vape quietly and aren't stars of youtube or cloud blowing competitions.

I was going to "LIKE" your post from the part of it I received in an email notification but then I read the rest of it and IMHO the whole cloud blowing stuff "IS" part of why the FDA, fueled by big tobacco and pharmaceutical companies, is coming down so hard.

So although I like most of your post I don't care for all of it.

All the best to you.

 

[Asbestos4004]

Shootist, what are you basing your opinion on. Maybe I missed it, but I have yet to read any reports from the fda regarding the size of the exhaled vapor cloud.

 

[Bunnykiller]

I don't imagine they would have much luck banning it in dorm rooms.

dont forget about the Dorm Cops..... those who were chosen/recruited to patrol the halls and report obnoxious behavior to the higher ups.... they were around in 1976 and probably still are today

 

[TheJakeBailey]

Ok... I stopped reading the thread on page 10.
*yawn* Same old drivel. Everybody and their cousins taking exception to an older person not understanding all these "cool" (kewl?) young people who use vaping as a fad, and only one - ONE! - person (up to page 10) reacting to the "Write to your congress person" request and mentioning that they submitted a comment to the FDA.



Thank you, dhhock50

Oh yes, by the way, today is 8 August, the last day that you guys and gals in the States can submit comments to the FDA.
The FDA is the government agency that currently intends to pass a de-facto ban on vaping as we know it and that has asked for comments from the citizens.
You know - this "FDA submission last chance 8/8/14" sticky on the top of the forum....

It is a good idea to submit a comment. Even if it is only so that those bureaucrats cannot say "we did not know".

And now, feel free to carry on with the regular scheduled programming ..... hipsters and no hipsters.... tattoos and no tattoos ... and whatever makes your putter flutter... while happily ignoring the part about writing to the congress person or the FDA....

- You need not flame me for making this statement. I will only laugh to myself. Might be quite amusing to see page upon page of postings trying to abuse me for saying what I did, by the same people who would never use the same amount of time writting a letter to the FDA or their "elected representatives"

You didn't read very carefully, or only saw what you wanted to see. I mentioned the FDA and my disgust with the turn out in my initial post, and several others did as well. Cloud chasers are a small segment of the community, and the whole community did a deplorable job. That includes old people, and ego users, and even cigalike users.

 

[Asbestos4004]

Thanks JakeBailey! Funny how people assume that cloud chasers or young people didn't submit comments. I'd be willing to bet they had a better submittal percentage than us old folks.

 

[rhean]

Thanks JakeBailey! Funny how people assume that cloud chasers or young people didn't submit comments. I'd be willing to bet they had a better submittal percentage than us old folks.

It's hard to know who submitted comments, so we're all assuming. I agree that subohmers in general are more likely to have done so, as they've (hopefully) done some research on vaping in general. On the other hand, young people are less likely to vote than older folks, so young vapers, subohm or not, tattooed or not, may be less likely to take part in such efforts.

Also, I live in Madison, Wisconsin, and I've seen very few people vaping outside of vape shops. We took a train to NY recently, and I saw only one other person vaping during smoke breaks, and she was an elderly woman using a cigalike.

This is not a big community, and we shouldn't be turning on one another.

As far as regulations against vaping, see my thingie down below. I've avoided 11,700 analogs, which means BT lost $4,000 from me alone last year, all thanks to vaping.