ok... I'm intrigued now. I was reading the posts about people having ordered hundreds of pieces sight unseen and thinking that was insane until i saw the prices on these things.
2nd Edition Cartomizers - Won't sell to US now !!!
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ok... I'm intrigued now. I was reading the posts about people having ordered hundreds of pieces sight unseen and thinking that was insane until i saw the prices on these things.
If technology now allows good vaping at 3.3 volts, it is a good thing.
The [new] 3.3volt KR808D-1 batteries last longer and charge quicker relative to the length that the charge lasts.
What is happening is that technology is progressing well, and using the lowest voltage possible that can achieve good results would be better. The lower the voltage requirement, the longer the batteries can last between charges and/or the smaller the battery size requirements would be. In the case of the kr808d1 battery, they kept the same size, thus the additional benefit is that they will keep their charge longer than their 3.7 higher voltage counterparts.
I still can't get the inner cap out... Dripping right on top of the inner cap has been working for me but... I still only get two hits of about five - seven seconds each then the third tastes burnt with every battery and juice combo that I try. I hope the wicking problem gets solved. These would be great. I agree that these are the best cartos I've tried as far as the atty performs.
I sent them an email showing my dissatisfaction:
I ordered the Edition 2 cartomizers for the 510. I am not satisfied. They do not perform as advertised. I can only take 1 or 2 puffs pefore they taste burnt. I'm using joye 510 batteries and dekang juice. I have also tried other juices and some non-joye brand batteries. I have filled the CE2 cartos with one mililiter of juice using a needle and syringe and only get 2 puffs before it tastes like a burnt atomizer then I have to let it sit for 5 minutes to get 1 or 2 more puffs. As of now I never plan on ordering from you again. Every battery and juice I try is the same effect. Will you do something to correct this situation? This product does not work as advertised.
and this was the reply:
I am sorry that this thing happened on you ! you are the first one to complaint the 510 cartomizers !
and i think not all the cartomizers like what you said ! just if is possible ,just few ones !
the cartomizer must be filled on the 2 holes beside the wall !and need wait 2-3 minites ,and then smoke !
before we never filled with any liquid ,and from now on ,we will fill a little flavorless ,0mg 's liquid to taste if the cartomizers is good!
sorry once more !
Aileen
Sigh...
I sent them an email showing my dissatisfaction:
I ordered the Edition 2 cartomizers for the 510. I am not satisfied. They do not perform as advertised. I can only take 1 or 2 puffs pefore they taste burnt. I'm using joye 510 batteries and dekang juice. I have also tried other juices and some non-joye brand batteries. I have filled the CE2 cartos with one mililiter of juice using a needle and syringe and only get 2 puffs before it tastes like a burnt atomizer then I have to let it sit for 5 minutes to get 1 or 2 more puffs. As of now I never plan on ordering from you again. Every battery and juice I try is the same effect. Will you do something to correct this situation? This product does not work as advertised.
and this was the reply:
I am sorry that this thing happened on you ! you are the first one to complaint the 510 cartomizers !
and i think not all the cartomizers like what you said ! just if is possible ,just few ones !
the cartomizer must be filled on the 2 holes beside the wall !and need wait 2-3 minites ,and then smoke !
before we never filled with any liquid ,and from now on ,we will fill a little flavorless ,0mg 's liquid to taste if the cartomizers is good!
sorry once more !
Aileen
Sigh...
Yes, but there are still people using mods and other models of PV that have the same connections but are either true 3.7V or higher models. When looking at a product it's a good idea to look at the big picture as well.
I don't think it's a bad thing. You're ordering a product based on getting the best vapor production AND best flavor. It's impossible to do that with a single product that just works on everything. Gearing a product to voltage levels allows you to get the best results. There won't be anymore compromises of vapor over flavor or vice versa. But, if it is a problem for some people I'm sure they will just go back to the old atties and carts.
Aileen just doesn't seem as customer friendly as Martinez. Lets see what he has to say.
Can't help you on the explanation, but they do like throwing around the exclamation points, don't they?
Did you measure the ohms?
If they are lower resistance why would they not be for 3.7v batteries? Is that because they would burn out or because they would burn juice? A regular Joye 510 atomizer is 2.5 ohms. It works fine on both 510 batteries and 3.7v battery mods. Their literature/website implies these are 2.6 ohms...
Issue? Actually solved? have you seen one of these? anyone tried one of these?
lol, I thought it was YOU... wait a minute... you're doing a spoof here aren't you. doh... and I bit completely
yes!
If I were still carrying around a 510 stick battery with me everywhere I'd probably agree with you. Now that I've moved into mods with larger batteries I'm not so sure. At any rate I hope they start marking these things so we know what to put on what.
naviathan, I see what you're trying to say about people with 3.7 and 'higher' voltage mods, but technology advancement is towards lower voltage. I have no idea why they even built 6 and 7 volt PVs, maybe they inexplicably thought technological innovation had become stagnant ?
Someone used car analogies in the past, and it reminds me of asking why would someone use a space shuttle engine to power a Ferrari when Ferrari is developing good, small engines for them?
edit to add: banjoman, yes labeling them properly is cool
Someone used car analogies in the past, and it reminds me of asking why would someone use a space shuttle engine to power a Ferrari when Ferrari is developing good, small engines for them?
edit to add: banjoman, yes labeling them properly is cool
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I know, Seriously lay off the shift + 1. I really didn't expect much more of an explanation.
If it is against the rules, I will edit the post and paraphrase.
Keep pushing, Deadguy. If mine don't perform I'm going to "suggest" they ship me another batch of the "improved" model for free.
Probably won't work but hey, it's worth a try... !
Ummm, what "technology" are you referring to. Something like Ohm's law? or maybe Joule's law for watts?
We are all VERY familiar with Joye 510 atomizers. On or off of 510 batteries. Joye 510 atomizers are 2.2 to 2.4 ohms.
The E2 is advertised at 2.6 ohms (see above laws to draw conclusions).
Or maybe you're talking about spin doctor technology?
I'm with basspro in making a distinction between the other thread specifically started for the manufacturer and this one.
The thing is, what if the products available at the time you started vaping produced the massive vapor and flavors you get from a mod box, but in a standard, smaller format that lasts all day? A lot of people started modding because they didn't get what they wanted from the factory models. If the factory starts creating products that produce mod like results from factory products, you wouldn't need to mod.If I were still carrying around a 510 stick battery with me everywhere I'd probably agree with you. Now that I've moved into mods with larger batteries I'm not so sure. At any rate I hope they start marking these things so we know what to put on what.
You are exactly right in your thinking. but as I said above, until the factory catches up with the mods, but on a lower voltage scale, people will continue to mod. Of course even if they do catch up, people will still mod.
( It may or may not be, Deadguy. I just threw that in with good intentions and just trying to help. I see that Quick1 asked about posting 'other' peoples email and PM (is that right?), but I don't know why that would be brought up. I mean how would I be able to post an email or PM between you and Quick1 for example? )
I can help.
translation: You are the first one with this complaint. No one else has mentioned this before.
I believe he's referring to technology in general. Doing more at lower voltage is the going trend for everything these days. The lower voltage use allows you to work longer, so the more you can do with it, the better.
How does it do more at lower voltage? It's 2.6 ohms. See Joule's law.
How does the lower voltage allow it to "work" longer? Are you saying that the same 510 or KR808 battery will "work" longer with this than than with the "old" technology?
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