#500 SS Mesh

[Andy Thatcher]

So just spent most of the morning reading this thread and rolling a 55mm 400 mesh wick to fit into a HellFire Mini.

Using 28 AWG got a 1 Ohm coil and tested it out on a ProVari and all good. Popped it on to a 3.7 and was expecting some drattyness.

Nope just juice flavour so far. Cannot do the second or two drag the Monty is doing but thought I would try with the 400 mesh. More vapour that managed before out of the Mini.

Now I am starting to see why I may need to reduce my nic levels as well !

Have had my Mesh Company delivery of 500 so will set up a DiDalike with that option later.

 

[BJ43]

Is bigger always better?

Bigger and or tighter is better if you need more juice to keep up with you coil and vaping stile. In this case of 100mm (emonty) it is still 2.5 mm diameter but denser and should have more capillary action.

 

[studiovap]

Bigger and or tighter is better if you need more juice to keep up with you coil and vaping stile. In this case of 100mm (emonty) it is still 2.5 mm diameter but denser and should have more capillary action.

So BJ, does it ever get to the point where the wick is so tightly rolled/dense that it's almost a solid mass with less capacity to contain juice?

 

[Robert T]

Great idea BJ, I never thought of that but makes sense, thanks.

For those who have a problem with a long negative leg you might try just sticking the neg leg down into the wick hole. I do that all the time and just eliminate the neg post. A tight wick in the hole holds it and makes good contact.

 

[BJ43]

So BJ, does it ever get to the point where the wick is so tightly rolled/dense that it's almost a solid mass with less capacity to contain juice?

Maybe if Superman rolled it, you would have to get the pores (mesh holes) smaller than the molecules of the juice used. It is not the capacity of the wick, it is the efficiency of the wicking (capillary action) to replace the juice vaped fast enough to keep up. So more and denser is better until that point that the molecules can no longer get thru with adhesion.

 

[doots]

For those who have a problem with a long negative leg you might try just sticking the neg leg down into the wick hole. I do that all the time and just eliminate the neg post. A tight wick in the hole holds it and makes good contact.

Nice tip for sure BJ.

 

[the ob]

For those who have a problem with a long negative leg you might try just sticking the neg leg down into the wick hole. I do that all the time and just eliminate the neg post. A tight wick in the hole holds it and makes good contact.

can you explain what this means in layman's terms? What do you mean the negative leg?

 

[studiovap]

Maybe if Superman rolled it, you would have to get the pores (mesh holes) smaller than the molecules of the juice used. It is not the capacity of the wick, it is the efficiency of the wicking (capillary action) to replace the juice vaped fast enough to keep up. So more and denser is better until that point that the molecules can no longer get thru with adhesion.

Great. Thanks for clarifying for me. I have my #500 mesh but my 30g &32g still hasn't arrived. Can't wait to try 100mm in the DID. Just hope my current coil holds up till the postman arrives with that wire.

 

[BJ43]

Nice tip for sure BJ.

Kind of blows the theory that the wick has to be oxidized thru the metal hole and that it can't touch the metal sides or bottom. As long as the rest of the coil is isolated from the wick and the wick does not make contact with the pos post, no short possible.. Actually the neg screw or post is just and extension from the hole, all common ground.

 

[BJ43]

This thread has evolved into something I really fear and that is low ohm coils and I want to state here, if you do not know what you are doing beware, low ohms can be very dangerous on many batteries. You must understand C rating on batteries and not abuse this. I seldom use batteries but when I do they are all over 20C. An exploding lipo is not pretty, almost dynamite. Please be careful and study battery usage. Don't confide that protected batteries are fail safe if you exceed their discharge rate.

Pic of exploded cell battery, talking while charging. Not me... If a small cell battery can do this imgine ones we use.

 

[mwa102464]

BJ43 Safety is always of the highest concern,,, but most all people are using AW, Panasonic, MNKE Batts IMR Batts, with the highest of C Ratings with LR, if not there just plain stupid, and IMR Batteries dont explode, they only heat up and can expand a bit from gases, They Dont Explode when shorted. Here is an AW IMR being dead shorted for almost 14 consecutive minutes. Anything is always possible but IMR's dont explode. Obviously that guy was not using an IMR Battery as well and that sucks for him... Everyone should be fully educated on Battery safety who is using ANY Mod, if not they are risking there life. Anyone not using an IMR to vape a Genesis Atty shouldn't be using a Genesis Atty either as well as a Mod that is well vented and also should have over and under and short protection on a regulated Mod.

Anyone NOT using one of these 3 Batteries manufactured IMR'S is foolish too,

Callies Kustoms IMR Battery and AW short circuit observations - YouTube

 

[ricklynchcore]

@bj,

What is considered super lo res

 

[mwa102464]

@bj,

What is considered super lo res

.8-.9-1.0-1.1-1.2-1.3-1.4-

 

[mwa102464]

I wonder what Batt that guy was using ? does anyone know ?

 

[emonty]

Looks like a Nokia cell phone, they use Li-Ion's

 

[rondasherrill]

Looks like a Nokia cell phone, they use Li-Ion's

Definitely a Nokia... Looks like the same model I used to have!

 

[the ob]

I just want to say BJ, that I agree. I have a lot of experience building and using Genny devices, but little experience with different gauge wires etc.

for now I am sticking to my 32g kanthal wire until I feel completely comfortable. My issue now is how to best use the advice on the wider mesh wicks.

I see experimenting with wider and wider versions (mostly my buddy emonty ) but wonder how wide is too wide? I mean is there a optimal width for each device?

The 28g scares me for the moment and so, I will put it aside for now until I am more comfortable. thanks.

 

[BJ43]

I agree completely with mwa, but so many are getting into vaping and rba that may not know the risk of over discharging and C rating I just had to put the warning out there, like me giving one of my jets to a pilot that has only flown a little Cessna. Don't skimp on quality batteries.

 

[Dieseler]

Hi Bj i bought a griffin (DID Clone) and just bought several in coop as well that we are in. ; )
Im curious what you cut your400 or 500 mesh size to before rolling it for the DID or something similar size wick hole.

 

[BJ43]

I just want to say BJ, that I agree. I have a lot of experience building and using Genny devices, but little experience with different gauge wires etc.

for now I am sticking to my 32g kanthal wire until I feel completely comfortable. My issue now is how to best use the advice on the wider mesh wicks.


The 28g scares me for the moment and so, I will put it aside for now until I am more comfortable. thanks.

I see experimenting with wider and wider versions (mostly my buddy emonty ) but wonder how wide is too wide? I mean is there a optimal width for each device?


The best answer I can give you is the most you can get in the wick hole. Most of mine are 2.5 mm and I manage 70mm, emonty is younger and stronger and got 100mm rolled that tight. Going to have to fly to Holland so he can roll me one.