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tj99959

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    Reality check:
    Any battery can be made to vent There are no exceptions.

    So the logical question is to ask "how to minimize the damage done should the battery vent".

    Without knowing what the individual was using, all we can do is demonize unsafe practices, but just remember that he could have been using an eGo with a 3 ohm atomizer for all we know.
     

    beckdg

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    "Rich people hurt the bottom line" is like saying "Cloud chasers hurt vaping" not all cloud chasers are idiots just like not all rich people are out to screw the little guy (but I too have a general distaste for politicians hehe)

    Never met a rich person out to...

    Well...

    Anything but get more rich.

    Screwing the little guy is more like the eggs that get broken to make the omelet.

    Not saying many aren't willing and knowingly doing so... it's just usually not their purpose. Intentions, maybe...

    Tapatyped
     

    DaveP

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    Reality check:
    Any battery can be made to vent There are no exceptions.

    So the logical question is to ask "how to minimize the damage done should the battery vent".

    Without knowing what the individual was using, all we can do is demonize unsafe practices, but just remember that he could have been using an eGo with a 3 ohm atomizer for all we know.

    Yep! My Provari and my Sigelei Zmax have pressure relief - gas exhaust hole. I hadn't thought about it but my Eleaf iStick is sealed tight except for the USB port hole and that has a jack on the inside blocking the port. Inside the iStick there's a 2200mah 18650 battery soldered in place.
     

    FearTX

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    Your freedom to throw a punch stops at the point it starts impacting my nose. Regulation of many things and behavior wouldn't and shouldn't be necessary if more people had just a little common sense.

    Agreed on the proper place for all things, etc. A cloud contest would be the proper place for such activities as was originally stated by the OP before the edit for fact.

    If you go to a cloud contest and get maimed by some idiots shrapnel you deserve it for being there :) I went to one once, by accident, I just happened to drop by a vape shop while it was happening. Not my thing, I do get the draw to it though, If I were 30 years younger I might be more interested.
    I do not remember ever smoking a Camel, one of my beloved Romeo Y Julieta cigars or a pipe and trying to blow more smoke than the next guy. I do remember being a young man and having tobacco spitting contests though. Seems like the bored young redneck days were much more tame. More of us were maimed by dirt bikes, horses and cattle goofing off than the none of us who were maimed in tobacco spitting contests.
     

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    every year many garages burn to the ground causing
    damage and even death because of negligent battery
    charging by R/C hobbyist's.
    each and every year home owners discover what their
    insurance does and,does not cover.
    if the batteries are not used for their intended purpose
    and within the specified operating environment the
    manufacturer is not liable. the one using it is.
    wait until one of these mishaps blows a bystanders eye out.
    you can tell most of these so called journalist are right out
    of school. the have no perspective.
    regards
    mike
     

    HecticEnergy

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    Well, in the US at least, the regs are just going to mount and mount and mount. That's inevitable. It is The Way. Credulous to expect anything less.

    I'd be more concerned about this, quoted from the article about the San Diego incident.

    "Two weeks ago, the FAA issued a safety bulletin suggesting airlines ban passengers from putting e-cigs in their checked baggage after two recent incidents where it's believed the devices sparked fires in the baggage holds of airplanes.

    Part of the FAA statement blamed the potential risk from a growing trend of users using after-market batteries or other components on their heating elements. So the agency suggests passengers pack e-cigarettes in their carry-on baggage."
    (You see, they've correctly pinpointed details in that bold part.)

    Rest assured, when some fool's unlocked, battery-installed Stingray mod goes into melt-down in the cargo hold of a Boeing 777 and brings that plane crashing to earth, killing hundreds of people and causing millions in damage, that'll be the end of vaping as we (or those in the US) know it. Forget about the "inconvenience" of not being able to take your e-cigs with you to Cancun...There will be MASSIVE public and gov outcry to ban everything, and the public/gov won't give a rat's hiney about making distinctions between what's "dangerous" and what's not. They will throw a ban blanket over everything.

    I could beg and plead..."PLEASE! Take your batteries out of your mech and pack them separately into your carry-on, as instructed by the airlines and authorities!" But it won't matter. Somewhere, some time, there is always someone who isn't listening, isn't paying attention, isn't thinking straight, or just flat-out doesn't care. :(

    I'm no battery expert, but even out of a mod it is not safe to fly with your batteries stored in the cargo hold. The cargo hold isn't pressurized like the cabin of the plane, The pressure change can cause the battery to vent. But I agree - remove the battery from your mods before tossing it in your carry on, or at the very least lock your mod... Like traveling with a fire arm, it's best to not leave a bullet under the firing pin when stored.. but at least put the safety on if you do :) (really.. pull the clip and clear the chamber... before storing..)
     

    HecticEnergy

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    every year many garages burn to the ground causing
    damage and even death because of negligent battery
    charging by R/C hobbyist's.
    each and every year home owners discover what their
    insurance does and,does not cover.
    if the batteries are not used for their intended purpose
    and within the specified operating environment the
    manufacturer is not liable. the one using it is.
    wait until one of these mishaps blows a bystanders eye out.
    you can tell most of these so called journalist are right out
    of school. the have no perspective.
    regards
    mike

    Fireworks too :)
     

    tj99959

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    Yep! My Provari and my Sigelei Zmax have pressure relief - gas exhaust hole. I hadn't thought about it but my Eleaf iStick is sealed tight except for the USB port hole and that has a jack on the inside blocking the port. Inside the iStick there's a 2200mah 18650 EXPLOSIVE Lipo battery soldered in place.

    Fixed that for you.
     

    DaveP

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    Agreed on the proper place for all things, etc. A cloud contest would be the proper place for such activities as was originally stated by the OP before the edit for fact.

    If you go to a cloud contest and get maimed by some idiots shrapnel you deserve it for being there :) I went to one once, by accident, I just happened to drop by a vape shop while it was happening. Not my thing, I do get the draw to it though, If I were 30 years younger I might be more interested.
    I do not remember ever smoking a Camel, one of my beloved Romeo Y Julieta cigars or a pipe and trying to blow more smoke than the next guy. I do remember being a young man and having tobacco spitting contests though. Seems like the bored young redneck days were much more tame. More of us were maimed by dirt bikes, horses and cattle goofing off than the none of us who were maimed in tobacco spitting contests.

    I drop by the local vape shop once a month or less. I try to do it right after they open to avoid the crowds and the dripper vapor clouds. Sometimes, it gets so foggy when it's crowded that you can barely see across the room. Six foot streams of VG fog spread slowly as they dissipate.
     

    tj99959

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    What's in a cellphone? Arent those lipo packs? Of course the amp draw is much less than a vaporizer (I imagine).

    My point is that Lipo cells vent in a violent manor. IMR/INR cells do not.
    So which would you rather have go off in your face?

    Yes a Lipo can have more mAh & a higher c rating .......... but at what price to safety?
     
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    Fixed that for you.

    My point is that Lipo cells vent in a violent manor. IMR/INR cells do not.
    So which would you rather have go off in your face?

    Just Curious.

    How Many reports of Exploding iSticks or MVP's or iTastes have you read about?
     

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    My point is that Lipo cells vent in a violent manor. IMR/INR cells do not.
    So which would you rather have go off in your face?

    I get that - just saying they are moderately safe when used (Though I'm not sure if batteries in cellphones are Lipo).
    IMR cells can still violently explode - I'm sure its rare and usually they are the lower quality ones, but I wouldn't bet my face on it not happening. They do vent hot gasses, and I wouldnt want that in my face either.
    I dont want anything blowing up in my face!
    Safety is a priority for me :)
     

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    I drop by the local vape shop once a month or less. I try to do it right after they open to avoid the crowds and the dripper vapor clouds. Sometimes, it gets so foggy when it's crowded that you can barely see across the room. Six foot streams of VG fog spread slowly as they dissipate.

    True, there are only a few vape shops that I frequent anymore. In-store markups are ridiculous, I would support local business but I choose not to pay 400 and 500% markups. Most of the vape shops are carry junk and starter kits. Yay for starters to get people off smoking....
    I do want to visit a shop up in your neck of the woods one of these days. I would really like to make it to SteamCigs in Lawrence at some point.
     
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