Are you done stocking up?

[markfm]

Gaming the system by buying things up so that others can not buy them at normal prices, then selling at multiples of the original price, is not classic supply and demand. That is creating an artificial lack of supply.

Store chains have good distribution systems, move stock as necessary if there is a demand surge in an area. A person buying out all of the items in an area, trying to justify their actions by saying there was no demand there (as of yet), is not allowing the stores to shift product. They are not performing a public service.

This is obviously just my opinion, but it seems a decent number of people I know have this thought.

On the vaping front, I continue being very happy with the SXK Haku Riviera clone. With a little rayon plug in the fill hole it is a leakproof squonking rdta setup.

 

[Brewdawg1181]

Normally i would agree. But like the guy on Amazon who was no longer able to sell his product at such inflated rates. He is already out of businees. Consumers are what drives the economy. If no one is buying then supply/demand are useless.

Think of it this way: Government sets the price of a bottle of water at $1. Catastrophe hits a city, and no company can be bothered to try to get thousands of bottles of water to desparate people, because they can only charge $1 each. But if they can charge $5 for that bottle, they do everything they can to get it there. And in a situation like that, the bottle of water is worth more than the $1 it would be in other situations. Lives are saved.

Or anything people are stocking up on now. If TP had doubled in price Thursday, everyone would've thought twice before buying tons of it- they wouldn't want to buy too much at the higher price, which would leave more on the shelves for other people.

Like it or not, call it greed if you will, but that supply and demand is the basis of our entire economy. Price fixing by government does not work. And generally speaking, it's not gauging for someone on Amazon to raise prices to any level - unless they have a monopoly on a product. All sellers of anything try to maximize profit by raising prices to what the market will bear.

 

[markfm]

The difficulty is that the person had made it impossible for the stores to provide product because they have depleted the supply at other stores that they would normally use to cover the surge in demand.

(I'll stop posting on this. Reasonable people can disagree on any given topic.)

 

[Uncle]

He created a supply issue by buying them all in those areas, then profited from that demand, during a pandemic. Just awful, and good for amazon for taking care of it.

Also - IMHO Personal Opinion - He and others just like him are actually - in part - responsible for creating the shortage for the direct purpose to take advantage of others in a time of NEED . . . I find it as reprehensible as any of those Drug Manufacturers that overcharge so much for "Orphan Drugs" and raising prices of other life saving drugs that are difficult to get to survive. . . . Just Sayin' . . .


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[markfm]

Vaporesso Revenger Go 220w kit, with an NRG tank, is $20 at eightvape. It's an internal battery mod, but 5000 mAh is pretty respectable.

Healthcabin has the Wotofo Flow tank in light blue or white at $3. It's another bb-compatible tank. (I use Flow heads as one of the types when I check compatibility.)

 

[Myrany]

Only useful if you get enough fiber. If not....well....

I have a huge bag of old towels and shop rags in the garage...it’ll do in a pinch.

Yeah I have a big pile of old beat up/torn tshirts I was going to pass to my brother in law to use as rags (he is a contractor). I have decided to hold on to them for awhile in case we need the rags.

We switched to cloth handkerchiefs, bar towels and cloth napkins (I made them from cheap muslin and machine hemmed them) years ago when we had a rough patch financially and just couldn't afford the price of paper products outside of TP. It was a small place we could economize that bought us an extra $20 a month. Yes we were that broke for awhile that $20 mattered. Now we just don't see a reason to change it much.

FYI for those wondering about the Bar towels. 1st pack purchased from Sams 4 years ago is still in good shape no holes or thinning. Just stained enough that they have been cycled to cleaning towels and a new pack purchased for kitchen use.

I was not in any way passing judgement on anyone that does not do this so please no one get offended. Just offering options if supplies are an issue in your area.

 

[Zaryk]

If the product is legal and buyers are willing to pay the seller's price, why should a marketplace like Amazon shut him down?

Now there's a supply, that's in demand, which is sitting somewhere unused, not helping anyone.

I can't answer that, I steer clear of any of those "PC" BS situations, which is what I assume is the root of their motivation for such actions.

But if that particular person didn't buy it all up, it very well could have been someone hoarding it up with no intention of redistributing it to people who want/need it. Which is worse than someone who is trying to keep it available for sale.

 

[BigPappa]

When I went to the PO this morning, the clerk did a double take of me with my ninja mask on.

Just a tip.... do NOT make a trip to the bank. lol

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Think of it this way: Government sets the price of a bottle of water at $1. Catastrophe hits a city, and no company can be bothered to try to get thousands of bottles of water to desparate people, because they can only charge $1 each. But if they can charge $5 for that bottle, they do everything they can to get it there. And in a situation like that, the bottle of water is worth more than the $1 it would be in other situations. Lives are saved.

Or anything people are stocking up on now. If TP had doubled in price Thursday, everyone would've thought twice before buying tons of it- they wouldn't want to buy too much at the higher price, which would leave more on the shelves for other people.

Like it or not, call it greed if you will, but that supply and demand is the basis of our entire economy. Price fixing by government does not work. And generally speaking, it's not gauging for someone on Amazon to raise prices to any level - unless they have a monopoly on a product. All sellers of anything try to maximize profit by raising prices to what the market will bear.

This will also be my last post on this subject but comparison of non essential items -- other ways to clean yourself vs a life essential product used to continue to exist is a very bad example.

 

[Myrany]

As to the price gouging. Supply and demand have nothing to do with MY choice not to patronize companies engaging in it. It is purely a personal choice. I personally feel it is VERY wrong to take advantage of others by price gouging. I will not support it.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

I can't remember if it was this thread or the other one (sorry, too lazy to search), but someone was asking about good deals on eliquid.

MyVaporStore.com has a 30% off sale on all juice with coupon code PIE.

Today's the last day.

 

[Brewdawg1181]

The difficulty is that the person had made it impossible for the stores to provide product because they have depleted the supply at other stores that they would normally use to cover the surge in demand.

(I'll stop posting on this. Reasonable people can disagree on any given topic.)

Okay, I'll stop after this too. But "that person" did not control the nationwide supply, and his effect was p1ss in the ocean. Many, many choices remained for consumers. When I checked Amazon for TP Friday, out of curiosity, there were 56 pages of listings.

In the case of drugs for which there are no choices, that's a completely different animal. Again, the monopoly aspect comes into play. I'm not in favor of allowing the manufacturer of Epipens to do what they did, or illegal price fixing with insulin.

 

[Uncle]

Healthcabin has the Wotofo Flow tank in light blue or white at $3. It's another bb-compatible tank. (I use Flow heads as one of the types when I check compatibility.)

Is that for an original Billet Box v3 or v4) ? or a Clone? or Something Else ?


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[markfm]

Sowwy, baby beast

The Flow tank fits the same format heads as the baby beast, Cerberus, hellbeast, NRG,...

 

[fiddleshe]

Think of it this way: Government sets the price of a bottle of water at $1. Catastrophe hits a city, and no company can be bothered to try to get thousands of bottles of water to desparate people, because they can only charge $1 each. But if they can charge $5 for that bottle, they do everything they can to get it there. And in a situation like that, the bottle of water is worth more than the $1 it would be in other situations. Lives are saved.

Or anything people are stocking up on now. If TP had doubled in price Thursday, everyone would've thought twice before buying tons of it- they wouldn't want to buy too much at the higher price, which would leave more on the shelves for other people.

Like it or not, call it greed if you will, but that supply and demand is the basis of our entire economy. Price fixing by government does not work. And generally speaking, it's not gauging for someone on Amazon to raise prices to any level - unless they have a monopoly on a product. All sellers of anything try to maximize profit by raising prices to what the market will bear.

Which is why a vial of insulin can be $350 when it costs $30 in Canada. Just plain evil.

 

[leftyandsparky]

Yeah I have a big pile of old beat up/torn tshirts I was going to pass to my brother in law to use as rags (he is a contractor). I have decided to hold on to them for awhile in case we need the rags.

We switched to cloth handkerchiefs, bar towels and cloth napkins (I made them from cheap muslin and machine hemmed them) years ago when we had a rough patch financially and just couldn't afford the price of paper products outside of TP. It was a small place we could economize that bought us an extra $20 a month. Yes we were that broke for awhile that $20 mattered. Now we just don't see a reason to change it much.

FYI for those wondering about the Bar towels. 1st pack purchased from Sams 4 years ago is still in good shape no holes or thinning. Just stained enough that they have been cycled to cleaning towels and a new pack purchased for kitchen use.

I was not in any way passing judgement on anyone that does not do this so please no one get offended. Just offering options if supplies are an issue in your area.

We use bar towels too! We get funny looks from people when they wash their hands in our kitchen! Since so many come in a pack I can put a new towel out everyday for the germ freaks!

 

[fiddleshe]

We use bar towels too! We get funny looks from people when they wash their hands in our kitchen! Since so many come in a pack I can put a new towel out everyday for the germ freaks!

I dont know what bar towels are. Are they the same as flour sack towels?

 

[Myrany]

I dont know what bar towels are. Are they the same as flour sack towels?

https://www.samsclub.com/p/bakers-chefs-bar-mops-16-x-19-24-ct/prod3530205

 

[Brewdawg1181]

https://www.samsclub.com/p/bakers-chefs-bar-mops-16-x-19-24-ct/prod3530205

I like these. Wash the car, vape cleanup, clean computer screens & keyboards, great for windows, kitchen use, everything. And cheap.
Microfiber Cleaning Cloth 12 in. x 12 in., 12 Pk.

 

[fiddleshe]

I like these. Wash the car, vape cleanup, clean computer screens & keyboards, great for windows, kitchen use, everything. And cheap.
Microfiber Cleaning Cloth 12 in. x 12 in., 12 Pk.
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I just bought 2 packs of those.