Are you done stocking up?

mattiem

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Did anyone fill out this survey and get the results? I found the entire survey report in my inbox, here's the summary:
***** SUMMARY *****

We surveyed 9,040 current e-cigarette users in the United States on what they think they will do if, when the Deeming Rule comes into effect on August 8th 2018, they are no longer able to legally buy the e-cigarette products they currently use.

The majority (>60%) of current e-cigarette users expressed intentions to either start buying e-cigarettes and e-liquid from the black market, both in the local community and online, start making and mixing their own e-liquid at home, start bulk buying/stocking up on e-liquid in advance of the Deeming Rule coming into effect, or go back to smoking tobacco/smoke more tobacco than they do currently.

All of these responses would likely increase these individuals' risk for ill health, and fuel a black market trade in e-cigarette products. Only a very small proportion of current e-cigarette users expressed an intention to comply with the Deeming Rule by either ceasing e-cigarette use or switching to use of FDA-approved e-cigarettes (if any will exist).

***** edit- I don't feel DIY liquid or stocking up is bad for our health :)

Thanks once again for taking part, your time and insights are hugely appreciated!

Best wishes,

Christopher

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Christopher Russell PhD.
Psychologist, Senior Research Fellow
Tobacco and Nicotine Studies
Centre for Substance Use Research (CSUR)
19 Keith Street
Glasgow
G11 6QQ
United Kingdom
I took the survey but didn't get the results. Thank you for posting your copy of it.
I certainly do not agree with their assumption that would likely increase these individuals' risk for ill health though. :(
 

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I took the survey but didn't get the results. Thank you for posting your copy of it.
I certainly do not agree with their assumption that would likely increase these individuals' risk for ill health though. :(
I need to post the full report somewhere, I think the conclusions are a bit off base, but it did prove people are stocking up and doing DIY. What the survey folks may not realize is how easy it is to do both DIY and stock up :)
 

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So, I'm thinking about one more order at FT tomorrow. After all, they are having a 10% off sale. :ohmy: :danger: It has been a while since I placed an order for stuff I know I really don't need, but I keep thinking well maybe I should get it :unsure: :lol:
I look at it like this-
If you need it- buy it! :thumb:
If you want it- buy it! :thumbs:
 

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I was thinking about why we vapers feel so attacked by FDA and the tobacco product ruling. For us it is personal. We all quit a horrible habit that was killing us, vape saved our lives and made us healthier, and no one is going to take that from us for any reason. At least that is how I feel. Vaping is our friend, not our killer like cigs.
 

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I was thinking about why we vapers feel so attacked by FDA and the tobacco product ruling. For us it is personal. We all quit a horrible habit that was killing us, vape saved our lives and made us healthier, and no one is going to take that from us for any reason. At least that is how I feel. Vaping is our friend, not our killer like cigs.
Cigs were my best friends for decades.

Only thing that never left my side.

Now I feel the same. :thumbs:

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    Good morning and my aren't you all funny today. Got a visual of Lex spinning wire on her hip, the drill wire spinning and the ultra fancy bluedriver method. Geez, no wonder I am not good at building fancy coils: hips are too old, me and power tools don't match well and my screwdriver isn't that pretty shade of blue.

    I'm gonna buy some coils from FT.
     

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    My 7/31/2016 fasttech package showed up in Miami this morning :banana: It should get to me by the middle of this week. Just a day or two longer than normal for me. Sadly there is nothing exciting in the package :( (just some pre-wound coils and o-rings) but I am happy to finally see it moving. :)

    I am going to pull the trigger on at least on more order. I filled up a GS-AIR 2 yesterday and I really like it so need to get a few more of them. I only have 2 right now.
    Yep, mine will be in my mailbox tomorrow after what I thought to be a long delay, but actually followed the same time pattern as previous orders.
    Of course, I'll have to make another order to test it.;)

    What is the coupon code again........is it SUMMER?

    Good morning and my aren't you all funny today. Got a visual of Lex spinning wire on her hip, the drill wire spinning and the ultra fancy bluedriver method. Geez, no wonder I am not good at building fancy coils: hips are too old, me and power tools don't match well and my screwdriver isn't that pretty shade of blue.

    I'm gonna buy some coils from FT.
    All of this reminded me of the 'Taryl Spin' (spelling?) when we were using the 808 cartos way back when!
     

    mattiem

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    Yep, mine will be in my mailbox tomorrow after what I thought to be a long delay, but actually followed the same time pattern as previous orders.
    Of course, I'll have to make another order to test it.;)

    What is the coupon code again........is it SUMMER?
    I don't know but will try it when I place my order. Gotta save when ever we can :D
     

    Rickb119

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    Only a very small proportion of current e-cigarette users expressed an intention to comply with the Deeming Rule by either ceasing e-cigarette use or switching to use of FDA-approved e-cigarettes

    I've not read the Deeming Rule however, I don't believe it states ANYWHERE that we must comply by "ceasing" e-cigarette use.

    Joseph Goebbels would have been proud of the way this was "implied". :evil:
     

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    Yep, mine will be in my mailbox tomorrow after what I thought to be a long delay, but actually followed the same time pattern as previous orders.
    Of course, I'll have to make another order to test it.;)

    What is the coupon code again........is it SUMMER?


    All of this reminded me of the 'Taryl Spin' (spelling?) when we were using the 808 cartos way back when!
    Yes @Flowersoul, the code is SUMMER :)
     

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    Any one ordering from FT here is a site wide sale

    Dear all,

    FastTech Summer Sale is coming soon! For the one day sale, take advantage of discounts on thousands of products, including Drones, Smart phones/tablets, E-cigarette mods and all the futuristic items!

    Promotion Date: August 15, 2016 00:00-23:59 (US central time)
    Offer: Site-wide 10% off
    Code: SUMMER



    Special notices:

    1. The coupon code can not be used with drop shipping orders.
    2. Offer valid: August 15, 2016 00:00-23:59 (US central time).
    3. This offer is not stackable with other offers and discounts.
    4. OVMS products are not included in this promotion offer.
     

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    I make my twisted using the clip on an inkpen & roll it on my thigh while talking on my cell. :thumbs:

    Same here scandal. Lol Works good especially since I don't get along with power drills too well. I did finally break down and ordered a couple of rolls of pre-twisted [emoji28]


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    Yep, mine will be in my mailbox tomorrow after what I thought to be a long delay, but actually followed the same time pattern as previous orders.
    Of course, I'll have to make another order to test it.;)

    What is the coupon code again........is it SUMMER?


    All of this reminded me of the 'Taryl Spin' (spelling?) when we were using the 808 cartos way back when!
    Wow, someone else remembers that, I think it was the Taryn spin. I thought it looked ridiculous so never did it. I am sure I would have broken something. Do you remember the condom carto filling method? That was a great one, I still use it if I am using a carto without a tank.
     

    J.d. Roberts

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    I would never bother to make that crazy stuff... fused, tiger, etc. No way I have the patience for even plain clapton wire. I do make twisted 30ga kanthal but that only involves a drill, wire and a pencil. More complicated than that, $10-15/25ft is cheaper than what my time is worth. :thumb:

    I don't make my claptons, I buy them in spools like regular Kanthol wire. I also have some Rof Vape Alien Clapton 0.45Ω 10 pack for dirt cheap, I'm lazy and never wanted to learn, all that drill spinning and whatnot, seemed like a hassle to me (IMO).. but they do actually last longer than micros and flavor/plumes are > than micros bar far. I just think you should experience a clapton. You'll see why people like them..
     

    bnrkwest

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    I reduced my Nic to 3 and been using higher VG in Nautilus and now higher Nic and higher PG is making me cough! Geez amazing how quickly we adjust to lower Nic and for me less PG, I am very surprised at this. Guess I need to start mixing differently for PG/VG now too.
     

    Mowgli

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    a roll of 30g Kanthal and this little gem :blink:

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    That'll look really nice on you :)

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