Are you done stocking up?

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For anyone in the "you can never have too much nic"
I might have too much. Three years ago, when the Deeming was proposed, I figured 7 ml/day at 15 mg. Now I find myself using only 5 ml/day and I'm down to 13.5 mg. So I think I have about 60 years worth. :blush:
 

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I figured 7 ml/day at 15 mg. Now I find myself using only 5 ml/day and I'm down to 13.5 mg. So I think I have about 60 years worth. :blush:

No, you don't have too much, IMO. What you have is a nice stash that will possibly be worth quite a bit in the future, if/when buying nic base becomes difficult or impossible. So, too much? Man...you're sitting on a nice little nest-egg there!
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No, you don't have too much, IMO. What you have is a nice stash that will possibly be worth quite a bit in the future, if/when buying nic base becomes difficult or impossible. So, too much? Man...you're sitting on a nice little nest-egg there!
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I recently switched to 6 mg from 12 mg strength, so no my stock will last me twice as long! Yippee!
Anyone have the link for the nic use calculator handy?


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I recently switched to 6 mg from 12 mg strength, so no my stock will last me twice as long! Yippee!

It'll last you twice as long...as long as you don't increase how many mL /day you vape. Sometimes, when lowering their nic mg/mL...people just vape more mL per day to make up for it. That just flushes the "lasts twice as long" idea down the toilet then. Gotta watch that. :)
 

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I think there will be some warning before it gets hard to get nic, so I haven't bothered stocking up. I have a bit less than half a liter of 100mg in the freezer, and about a liter of some kind of old (not so much that it wouldn't do in a pinch) 36mg as well. That's enough to last me a bit, but if I started to think stocking up was going to be necessary I would acquire quite a bit more than that. I go through more nic than most, I think.
 

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I think there will be some warning before it gets hard to get nic, so I haven't bothered stocking up...........if I started to think stocking up was going to be necessary I would acquire quite a bit more than that.

See, I'm either not so trusting of the FDA, and/or too frugal...to go that route. I decided to just go ahead and stock up, rather than risk the FDA making some ruling about buying nic base that was effective almost immediately, vendors having a short supply of it, and then prices going sky-high on what was available.

Besides, when it's only $34/L for 100mg nic base at Heartland Vapes this week-end...IMO that's just too good to pass up. I'm "locked and loaded" on nic base for my lifetime, but I'm ordering a L of it for a friend at that price, to put in his freezer.

I hope what I'm afraid of happening...won't, as far as the FDA and nic base. But I was personally not willing to risk it, while I could still get it...and at a really good price.
 

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See, I'm either not so trusting of the FDA, and/or too frugal...to go that route. I decided to just go ahead and stock up, rather than risk the FDA making some ruling about buying nic base that was effective almost immediately, vendors having a short supply of it, and then prices going sky-high on what was available.

Besides, when it's only $34/L for 100mg nic base at Heartland Vapes this week-end...IMO that's just too good to pass up. I'm "locked and loaded" on nic base for my lifetime, but I'm ordering a L of it for a friend at that price, to put in his freezer.

I hope what I'm afraid of happening...won't, as far as the FDA and nic base. But I was personally not willing to risk it, while I could still get it...and at a really good price.

That old adage definitely applies here: better to be safe than sorry!


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See, I'm either not so trusting of the FDA, and/or too frugal...to go that route. I decided to just go ahead and stock up, rather than risk the FDA making some ruling about buying nic base that was effective almost immediately, vendors having a short supply of it, and then prices going sky-high on what was available.

It's certainly possible- I think the more likely scenario is one like the recent implementation of TPD regs in the UK, where there's a grace period and the suppliers are trying to sell enough stock to DIYers that prices don't rise much. Remember that we make up a small percentage of the market, but pay quite a lot per unit because we buy in relatively small quantities at relatively high prices. Anyone with a bit of cash in hand in the UK was able to stock up at usual prices right up until the day the regs went into effect.

Besides, when it's only $34/L for 100mg nic base at Heartland Vapes this week-end...IMO that's just too good to pass up. I'm "locked and loaded" on nic base for my lifetime, but I'm ordering a L of it for a friend at that price, to put in his freezer.

I'm picky about nic, maybe because I tend to use higher concentrations of it than most would for a given application. I've been known to mix 18mg for uses most would use 6mg for. And I've had some bad experiences with less expensive nic. But I've never gotten nic from Heartland, so...

I've been meaning to do as blind a comparison as I can arrange without assistance between Carolina and NR, to see if I ought to be paying as much as I do for Carolina. Perhaps I should add Heartland to that test, because at $34.00/L there's not much to lose.

I hope what I'm afraid of happening...won't, as far as the FDA and nic base. But I was personally not willing to risk it, while I could still get it...and at a really good price.

I think it might happen- I think there will be a lot of rumblings before it happens, and.. well, I lack freezer space ;). I'm taking a chance here, I suppose, but my guess is that the writing will be on the wall early enough that I can stock up if bad things come to pass.
 

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According to the calculator, I'm stocked for over 30 years with the supply I currently have, yay! I needed that piece of good news!!!

You either have quite a lot, or you use quite a lot less than I do. I'd need on the order of 5 gallons of 100mg to last 30 years given my current habits.
 

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You either have quite a lot, or you use quite a lot less than I do. I'd need on the order of 5 gallons of 100mg to last 30 years given my current habits.

Wow! That is a lot! I vape 6ml a day. Is that considered a low amount?


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Well- thinking about it, 5 gallons might be too high. 3 might do ;). I'm estimating based on the amount I go through when my consumption is highest (like sitting at home working, rather than being at the office.) I can go through quite a lot of nic under those circumstances. But I don't always vape that heavily.
 

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I think the more likely scenario is one like the recent implementation of TPD regs in the UK, where there's a grace period and the suppliers are trying to sell enough stock to DIYers that prices don't rise much. Remember that we make up a small percentage of the market, but pay quite a lot per unit because we buy in relatively small quantities at relatively high prices. Anyone with a bit of cash in hand in the UK was able to stock up at usual prices right up until the day the regs went into effect.
Underlining was added to show what parts I'm respondng to.

See, I'm not sure many US vendors wouldn't jump at the chance to charge what they could for it, if they utilized the old "supply and demand" pricing structure at that point. Maybe the UK vendors didn't do much of that though.

As far as what we pay here in the US by the Liter - I'm not sure I agree that we pay relatively high prices for it...compared to what others have to pay in other parts of the world. I recently helped a member in India, source his best deal there for nic base for DIY. It is legal there, and sold by various vendors in India, from 0mg-75mg, and in quantities from 60mL-1L. He only needed enough for about a 6-10 month supply of DIY @ 3mg.

The best deal for him, within the country (to avoid high import taxes and possibly customs confiscating it), was to buy a 60mL bottle of the 75mg/mL nic base. For that 1 bottle his cost without S/H was equivalent to $11.93USD. So, that works out to a whopping $198.83USD per liter, if bought 60mL at a time! 125mL of the same 75mg was $19.23USD, so that's equivalent to $153.84USD per liter, if bought 125mL at a time.

It was available in 500mL and 1L sizes, but the highest strength available in those quantities was just 18mg. (He didn't need a L, nor have a way to safely store it.) The cost for 1L was equivalent to $46.92USD + S/H...but that was less than 1/4 as strong as the 75mg, so would be more expensive in the longrun.

Compared to that, IMO we have it at practically bargain basement prices here, especially when it's 100mg/mL and on sale by the liter! :)

ETA: The least expensive vendor for flavorings over there...charges about $3.15USD for just 10mL of TFA flavorings, too! I felt so sorry for him...having to pay those prices for nic base and flavorings. The PG and VG wasn't cheap either compared to here.
 
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