The 2.5 needs to be 1.5 ohm's at the lowest or higher for Atty, but the classic can do .9 ohm's and the P3 can do lower sub ohm's. But the price on a 2.5 is great! Just use higher ohm's with it
It was a later tobacco law that went into effect on online cigs and CC's and shipping using USPS. All a no no. Will it happen to vape? All I can say is glad I shopped when I did
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Online and face to face, I believe you are correct now with the PACT act in effect re cigarettes, but, you can still legally purchase cigars online and have them shipped via USPS to you, which is a tobacco product, unless your state law prohibits it.
I like your statement. And this is not a challenge to it, but can you provide some reasonable docs that go to some extant to prove that?
I really want to make sure that in 5yrs, 10yrs, or more I don't have totally destroyed bases.Nicotine stored in PG or VG are plant bases right? I dunno... I'm asking.
I am not a chemist and don't play one on TV or Internet.I just thought the freezer bags w provide some protection to the nic base.
Anyone know abt this?
Same happened to me. At some point, we could no longer buy cigs online with credit cards. I had been with the same outlet for years, and she let us pay with checks. Then something else happened- wish I could recall what, and my outlet became unreachable. Some legal thing, maybe around taxes or government wanting lists of customers, something like that. At that point, I found it very difficult to get established with another outlet, so I started buying local, as cheap as I could get. Man, did I feel like I had sunk low. Some months after that, I discovered vaping, and my spirit soared!
RIP Smokey Joe's Natural Light 100s (that was my online brand).
Ahhh right, thanks. Forget what time period it's from, I ended up getting a Vamo at the time cuz price. Hmm not really what I'm looking for though, grown used to sub ohm. Think I'm gonna put away these damn CC's, work as much in July as possible, and start looking for going out of business sales if that's what it's really coming to.
You know what, I buy everything on clearance. Most holiday coupons/codes do not work for clearance items I've found. These vendors want us buying all the new shiny stuffs!
Even with my order from Fasttech today, the code only got me like $3.00 off a $60.00 order. Well, I can't really complain, I have gotten many super deals.
It could be cigars are the only item online but I wonder since cigars are being deemed too what affect it has on them too. I think face to face you can still use CC for other tobacco just not online.
I had a total of four different carts ready to order last weekend, but didn't pull the trigger on three of them as the deals weren't that special. The fourth, which I would have gone for, came up with this on 7/1 "Our site is closed because of Indiana regulations. Will reopen tomorrow."
It's been a few tomorrows. Dammit. Welcome to our future.
It's been a few tomorrows. Dammit. Welcome to our future.
I think because it doesn't freeze solid and there is minimal air/water.I like your statement. And this is not a challenge to it, but can you provide some reasonable docs that go to some extant to prove that?
Nicotine stored in PG or VG are plant bases right? I dunno... I'm asking.
I just thought the freezer bags w provide some protection to the nic base.
Anyone know abt this?
I noticed that too and passed on some cart items too unless it was something essential like parts I needed but I found things cheaper on EBay
Correct. About 10 years ago, a buddy and I did a cross-continent motorcycle trip. There are parts of Utah that are absolutely spectacular.
But cigarettes were difficult to find in some places.
Yep, nic base first and foremost. I ordered my first liter two weeks after I started vaping 2-1/2 years ago in order to ensure that nobody would ever be able to take this miracle away from me, because if they did manage to do that, I would almost certainly be back to smoking.
I agree that equipment should be secondary. It will continue to be made, and it will be very difficult to prevent individuals from importing it. It wouldn't be cost effective for them to try to do so either. We "enthusiasts" are an insignificant part of the big picture, and I figure they're going to write us off as a lost cause. Besides, gear isn't where the where the money is; not the current industry's margins, nor the potential tax revenues. Think about the average person's vape budget. Not someone who DYIs, but vast majority who buy pre-made juice, either from a B&M or on-line. If you've got nic and can make you own juice, I expect you'll be fine.
I totally agree the nic is the choking point. If they eliminate access to nic, the hardware becomes irrelevant. Most people are not going to try the grey/black market. They will just stick with the cig-a-likes or go back to analogs. There was some ominous language in the deeming, something to the effect of other measures being implemented at a later (unspecified) date. Since they didn't address nic base specifically in the deeming, which seemed odd to me, I have a suspicion there is more to come from the FDA, and it isn't going to be good.
I just talked to my local vape shop and they confirmed my thoughts.
They are a really small 'mom&pop' shop.
Their house liquid will still be available as they found a iso 7 lab that will make it for them.
They also said the price of liquid will stay the same unless the lab raises prices over time.
They also confirmed that other than not being able to make liquid; coils and such, it's business as usual for the next 2yrs as they have been in constant contact with our senate representatives for confirmation.
Everyone with questions about your particular state tobacco regs should contact you local gov to confirm.
As it stands atm, we need the Cole Bishop Amendment to pass this fall to change predict date. It has bipartisan support also.
Here is a vid from totally wicked that sums up the changes coming.
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They are a really small 'mom&pop' shop.
Their house liquid will still be available as they found a iso 7 lab that will make it for them.
They also said the price of liquid will stay the same unless the lab raises prices over time.
They also confirmed that other than not being able to make liquid; coils and such, it's business as usual for the next 2yrs as they have been in constant contact with our senate representatives for confirmation.
Everyone with questions about your particular state tobacco regs should contact you local gov to confirm.
As it stands atm, we need the Cole Bishop Amendment to pass this fall to change predict date. It has bipartisan support also.
Here is a vid from totally wicked that sums up the changes coming.
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My stockpiling is complete. I bought a 55 gal drum of nic and a '79 Chevy pickup truck. I headed west 3 weeks ago and my new cult is 17 strong. We are growing tobacco and weaving mods from reeds. My followers call me father Nic.
Sorry but I have to correct this statement. At this point CC's can be used to purchase tobacco products. Ebay and paypal have had their no tobacco products (and had vape supplies in the rule) for a very long time. They just haven't been able to police the products very well. Every once in a while they do catch one breaking THEIR stupid rules but most everything vape related has managed to keep below their radar.
I purchased Kayfun mini v3 clones and various parts from FT using the 'freedom' code, which I found quite contrary since it seems our freedom is only an illusion.
I picked up a couple of the Provari 2.5 mini.
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