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The 3lb boxes are HUGE. I went to a local sally's to buy the 40' box but they only had the big boxes. Now that I know I like using rayon I will get one of those when this smaller box eventually runs out.
Is it ok to compressed the rayon? I put in all in a ziploc bag so it would fit in my stash drawer. I like to have all my stuff in one area, I'm a bit OCD like that.
 

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I lost it after he said ss mesh. If it was all cotton I could do it. But thank you Lexi for posting it! If you ever come to Bama look me up and I will take you to dinner!:thumbs:
I've built this with cotton in place of mesh as well.

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Is it ok to compressed the rayon? I put in all in a ziploc bag so it would fit in my stash drawer. I like to have all my stuff in one area, I'm a bit OCD like that.

I am new to rayon but I can't imagine it causing any issues. Just fluff it back up during the wicking process. If you haven't you should read at least the first page or so of this thread as rayon requires a different technique than cotton for proper wicking - Rayon Wick - Better Flow, Flavor, Longevity, and Nic Hit!! - Pt.2
 

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Thank you Dale!


I did the Taryn spin a few times, and I won't get into what happened....suffice it to say the last time I did it, almost broke a window! :lol:
Oh, I continued to use the condom carto filling method for a very long time.
I'm trying to remember the fellow that had a pet bird and went over to China for Smilin and ended up staying there.....he had a video while in China on the carto condom filling.

I used to do the Taryn spin on my cartos. It worked great but I felt (and looked) ridiculous when doing it. :facepalm:

I believe the guy you're referring to was Leaford. He was pretty well known around here a long time ago.
 

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That's called u-wicking right? How did it do with cotton?

I wick all my gennies with cotton since I hate rolling mesh. I find it works pretty well in most of them! For some reason, rayon doesn't do as well.
 

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I wick all my gennies with cotton since I hate rolling mesh. I find it works pretty well in most of them! For some reason, rayon doesn't do as well.
Are there any you-tube videos on how to do it? Reason why, there are a lot of gennies on clearance and I'm thinking of getting some if I don't have to use mesh.
 

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Well I see it differently. I think people don't fully understand resources, money, and personnel models.

And the impact is only IF the deeming regs remain as they are now.........(which they won't.)

1) I watch what billionaires like Sean Parker, Peter Thiel, Jan Verleur, etc. are doing. Not what scared vapers are doing. the billionaires in france and elsewhere with names I can't pronounce and that you never heard of are many as well. (you know that old expression follow the money.) There are so many billionaires in the ecig industry (here and worldwide) I think it is pretty naive that anyone thinks they are just gong to walk away and sell pet rocks or something.

2) "Down the line" will be decades from now. Because lawsuits are going to delay much of it. Predicate dates will get changed as well. Even the FDA has already said it will be looking for ways to reduce this impact—such as letting manufacturers file one PMTA for multiple flavors, etc. I expect this to get even further diluted as the push back and lawsuits rumble.

3) How many years/decades did it take for patches and gum to be reclassified from prescription to OTC status? That is how long it takes the FDA to "accomplish" things.

4) Please explain how, given the manpower they have, that the FDA is going to be able to process a piece of submitted paper for every single "part" of every single piece of vaping hardware out there....let alone for ejuices? It will take........years/decades.

Some of you actually think they *want* to do all that work. They don't. :) At any rate, hope they are planning on building out another building/industrial complex, and hiring lots more personnel.

5) Some of you don't seem to understand that many billionaires and millionaires are operating in this market. (That aren't BT). Competition in so many markets and it's very......... cutthroat.

6) Given that the rest of the real-world supply chain isn't even in the US:
Now on top of FDA manpower, you're tellling me US Customs and the USPS, FedEx, DHL, UPS, etc. is going to add personnel to their organizations, as well as forms and paperwork....... just to dedicate themselves to vapers and vaping? o_O When only about 10% of the nation vapes??

You are talking gearing up by 5+ different organizations just to address something only 10% of the population engages in. Talk about not understanding how money and staffing works. o_O

7) Even TPD affected - vapers in Australia, etc. are using Fasttech and the other China vendors just fine. Even in places where nicotine is said to be illegal most all of them allow "nicotine for personal use".


As for price increases and taxes.....Remember when they kept raising the prices of cigarettes? The FDA regulates cigarettes and tobacco products. Some people quit because they didn't want to pay it..........but most didn't. Regulation didn't make cigarettes unavailable.

Vaping stuff has always had a mark up of about 200-400% , eliquid has been more than that. I can make 30ml for $1.25 or less.....and some vendors are charging $28. You do the math. People still bought. And will continue to buy.

(the eliquid market is so over-saturated now, you could do away with a few thousand flavors and nobody would even notice). The new thing that they are cashing in on now, in the real world supply chain, is DIY supplies. Nobody needs or wants 200,000 vendor eliquids.


An industry with a projected $20 billion of sales ripe for the plucking, you guys think it is going to just "go away"? Nobody is gonna walk away from that table, and Big Tobacco already knows they aren't going to be the only major player (because they already have figures on their products and sales figures and they know that their cigalikes aren't outselling chinese stuff). This idea that the vaping industry will be 'handed to them' is malarky......they don't WANT to concentrate in a market with products that won't sell and won't make them any money.....they are making 100X that much on cigarettes. Yes, they will get a piece of vaping but they can't *deliver* and they know that, so they are not going to set themselves up for putting all their eggs into a failed market venture.

7) The FDA just wants to cover its ..... It has to show it is somehow "protecting" health, esp of children. They will show they are doing their job with age restrictions, online age verification, batch numbers, lot numbers, and ingredient labels (OTC risk-benefit is a big plus in their eyes, and I agree). It will be many decades before any definitive studies can show vaping is as dangerous as cigarettes (not to mention those studies will never prove that anyway.)

I'm sorry, but I just don't see what you all are seeing.:wub: So, I will be spending my money buying the land/acreage next door to me rather than stockpiling a bunch of cheap chinese junk that won't be worth anything in 2018.........

Between now and October, maybe a few months into 2017, things will be a little rough. Then, stuff will start to happen. Most everything right now is *temporary* and all people do is keep reading regulations w/out even considering the actual MANPOWER it would take to accomplish it "as it stands now". They will also be battling lawsuits, etc.

I may not be right. I guess I will bookmark this post and revisit it in August of 2018. :lol:
Bookmarked!!!!! ;)
 

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The 3lb boxes are HUGE. I went to a local sally's to buy the 40' box but they only had the big boxes. Now that I know I like using rayon I will get one of those when this smaller box eventually runs out.
Unless you're rewicking every 20 min, that smaller box will also take a long time to run out. :lol:
 

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That's called u-wicking right? How did it do with cotton?
We were using cotton in gennies long before u-wicking came along.
It performed great- actually not that much different than anything else that uses cotton.
I never tried it with rayon- by the time rayon hit the scenes my RSST was on a shelf.
 

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Mine is coconut based usp.

Where do you get it? I've tried a couple palm and a soy. I noticed significant differences in the way they each vaped. I wanted to try a coconut, but could only find it in small quantities. If I find a source I like, I want to be able to buy it in liters or larger.
 

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Are there any you-tube videos on how to do it? Reason why, there are a lot of gennies on clearance and I'm thinking of getting some if I don't have to use mesh.
Without putting yourself thru a video....
Insert a drill bit into the hole- It'll be your anchor to wrap your coil around.
Remove drill bit- pulse your coil to get out any hotspots.
Insert your cotton- Done! :banana:
 

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Still have yet to buy anything since the 8th.

I've been experimenting with the piles of tanks and parts though. I've vaping a kayfun base on a daily basis with a 34mm orchid PC tank since the beginning of May. I've been bottom filling it so I don't wear out the threads on the plastic tank. I'm trying to get an idea how long the PC tank can last if it's well cared for. I have 40 of them so if each one lasts 6 months then I'm feeling pretty good.

Of course I have a bunch of the 3 piece metal/plastic tank sections. I know they last a long time but I prefer the weight and visibility of a totally clear tank. Something about seeing all the delectable juice in it's entirety is enjoyable. lol
 

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Where do you get it? I've tried a couple palm and a soy. I noticed significant differences in the way they each vaped. I wanted to try a coconut, but could only find it in small quantities. If I find a source I like, I want to be able to buy it in liters or larger.

A bit pricey compared to ED's VG - Glycerin, vegetable source USP | Coop Coco
 

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Considering that the most draconion and restrictive vaping laws for online purchasing have been passed in Arkansas, Utah, and Indiana all were signed into effect by republicans. PA too I think?

It is not partisan. They are all doing it.

Must be lost in translation. The Liberals I was referring to were Justin and Kate.

OK I must REALLY be done. Went to make up a Fasttech cart to use the coupon, and came up with about $10 worth. o_O Not really worth ordering! Maybe by Labor Day?

That's all I spent. Some drip tips and adapters. I buy my coils 5 packs at a time and that discount is larger.
 

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If I didn't have so much VG from ED on hand I would definitely give this coco a try. Maybe in 3 or 4 years when I am running low. Agreed it is very cheap either way for how long it lasts.

Flax is intriguing. I have been eating ground flaxseed in my cereal/oatmeal most days (great thickener and source of healthy fats) and my 'bread' of choice lately is Ever-G White Rice with Flax.
 

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