Are you done stocking up?
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That was my thinking. VG has too many human pharm applications. Trying hard to not laugh at the thought of my daughter’s in-laws pulling up to TS with one of their cows to get my PG.
For me I do not trust the FDA at all. Seeing things seized by them years ago when they tried to stop vaping in it's tracks, then the deeming regs and PMTA put in place, I think we are on borrowed time. We have no idea at this point what will pass PMTA, if anything. I am not taking any chances, I am stocked up as best I can with regulated and several mech mods, toppers, and DIY. Vaping has been a miracle for me to quit smoking and I am not having the gov't mess with me over what is or isn't available. Too many have gone out of business already because of their meddling. I do not trust them. I am going thru my stock and weeding out things I don't need, but getting more of what I will need 
I am with you.For me I do not trust the FDA at all. Seeing things seized by them years ago when they tried to stop vaping in it's tracks, then the deeming regs and PMTA put in place, I think we are on borrowed time. We have no idea at this point what will pass PMTA, if anything. I am not taking any chances, I am stocked up as best I can with regulated and several mech mods, toppers, and DIY. Vaping has been a miracle for me to quit smoking and I am not having the gov't mess with me over what is or isn't available. Too many have gone out of business already because of their meddling. I do not trust them. I am going thru my stock and weeding out things I don't need, but getting more of what I will need
I think pg and vg probably the least threatened but just received an Amazon gift card so will probably order a gallon of each. Cheap enough. Already stocked with nic and flavors but will keep adding as long as possible.
As one of our German friends said a month ago, if a bureaucrat calls a pigeon a cat, it's a cat.
Best one line description I have seen, ever.
Have zero interest in putting my vaping in their hands.
For me I do not trust the FDA at all. Seeing things seized by them years ago when they tried to stop vaping in it's tracks, then the deeming regs and PMTA put in place, I think we are on borrowed time. We have no idea at this point what will pass PMTA, if anything. I am not taking any chances, I am stocked up as best I can with regulated and several mech mods, toppers, and DIY. Vaping has been a miracle for me to quit smoking and I am not having the gov't mess with me over what is or isn't available. Too many have gone out of business already because of their meddling. I do not trust them. I am going thru my stock and weeding out things I don't need, but getting more of what I will need
I never went through the seizure before as I wasn't vaping back then..(that was 2012 wasn't it? I didn't start vaping til 2014) so I don't have that in my head..
But you are right about not knowing what devices or juices will make it through the PMTA, we dont know that, but I'm just not willing to say the sky is falling when I do believe there will be some items which will get through..
Won't be what we like, but there are too many vapers for it to be completely shut down at this point... they didn't succeed when vaping was in its infancy, they won't succeed now..
Stock up because your favorite things may disappear, not because vaping will..
I believe this depends on the quality of the boards. And there is a huge difference in quality out there for mods. The worst ones of course, the battery will probably outlast the board. But there are also many quality boards out there too that I wouldn't be surprised if a good number of them may even last up to 100 years or more.
But in case I am wrong, I also have a plentiful stock of spare boards too. But that's a lot like carrying the toolbox in my automobile. If I have it with me, I never seem to need it. The day I don't, then I need it.
Absolutely, and this is the very reason why external battery mods should be preferable.... Nothing wrong with internal battery mods except for the simple fact that the electronics will far outlive the internal battery... It would not be far-fetched to think that a board may last for 100 years. That is easily feasible with todays design and manufacturing techniques.
I think it was Smoke Anywhere, they had their product seized. They also were forced out of business. Then we had hopes for the lawsuits that came about, but the outcomes were not wins for vaping. Now FDA attacks flavors and even going after menthol. If the only flavor available in the future is tobacco in a high priced disposable I am screwed. I vape desserts. I agree that it seems like something would be available in the future but fact is FDA can do anything it pleases and it has shown that they do just that. They can close everything down anytime they want. They are also coming after online sales, that is the only way I purchase, if that is shut down, again I am screwed. They do not care about us old time vapers and it shows. I wouldn't be surprised if they told us to just go have a cigarette.
I would because I was an electronics professional for years.... But lots of boards nowadays do not even have removable chips... If a chip goes bad, then you simply replace the entire board... Once in time, an electronics technician had to trace though the many thousands of components to find the single faulty one... Not so nowadays.... The transistor days are long gone and have been replaced by "chips".... Some chips are removable but most are not..... In the old days (2 decades ago) whenever your TV acted up you would troubleshoot it and find the faulty chip and replace the chip.... Nowadays, many of the chips are soldered in place and not removable and so you simply replace the entire board along with the rest of the circuitry on the board.
Boy I really sound cynical about FDA LOL but after vaping for 7 yrs you kind of get that way
You are not cynical... just stating the facts that many folks are not even aware of.
I remember when I got my first cig a like in 2009 a cartridge, an atomizer and a batt, it wasn't great but it helped me cut down, the news was all about banning ecigs and it almost happened. It wasn't until 2011 that I went to full time vaping with the great invention of cartomizers. So I have seen quite a bit during my journey
The FDA is not on our side.
How do you get replacement boards (which I also wouldn't know how to install)? From the manufacturer?
I also have several internal batt products that still work that are years old by Innokin. I was surprised how long they lasted.
I remember when I got my first cig a like in 2009 a cartridge, an atomizer and a batt, it wasn't great but it helped me cut down, the news was all about banning ecigs and it almost happened. It wasn't until 2011 that I went to full time vaping with the great invention of cartomizers. So I have seen quite a bit during my journey
Right on Brother …. They are not your friend.... Like I always tell everyone here "follow the money" and you will find who is making the rules and who is also corrupt.... The FDA arm of the gvt. is an agency of the gvt. who has bowed to Big tobacco for years (proven fact) as well as the big pharmaceutical Companies (also proven) ... Both BT and the pharmaceutical companies have power and loads of money in which to influence politicians and gvt. agencies.
I am not sure about mods as I have never worked on mods..... Televisions and radios I could tell you about but not mods... You probably could order them directly from whatever manufacturer makes your mod, that is if they sell them.
I used to build PC boards many years ago, all by hand, I used to marvel that anything electronic worked Ha Ha! But things have changed since those early days thank goodness.
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