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But...for those of us who are energy conservationists (ie. lazy)...there's something to be said for going to Vapecrawler =>

But, most of the people who've been stashing boxes of the Zenith coils in quantity...don't need them right now...like they're out of them. So, they can be, as you say, "lazy" and wait until deals are posted for them. Savings a few bucks per box is worth the wait, IMO. :thumbs:

If someone has none though, and needs to order a box or 2 right away...then maybe VC would be the way to go. I'd personally still take the time to do a quick Google search myself to price compare. But, that's just me. :)
 

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I love Kayfuns and have a lot of EHpro clones, I don't think I have any originals. How are the Kayfun 2019 clones? May get some :)

I have 2 originals 22mm versions (and 1 24 mm on the way) and and 1 SXK 22mm clone from FT. I got the clone to 'test drive' before springing for the originals.

The SXK clone is dang near as good as the real deal. Very hard to tell them apart. The main difference is the clone comes with a SS air adjustment screw and the Svoe's come with the new longer (6mm) nylon screw. Supposedly the longer screw stops some minor juice weeping some users have complained about. I get a minuscule amount of juice seepage from the clone. It can buy a package of 3 6mm nylon screws from Svoe vendors for $2-$3 dollars if so desired/needed.

It's only a 2ml tank capacity so I run all mine with the 'Long Mode' kit for 3 ml of capacity. The other thing is they (Svoe's and clones( come with the PEI yellow tank section. I dislike that color for my tanks so I get the optional clear tank section.

Oh and the drip tip is very short with a narrow diameter. Tough to put it in your mouth w/o your lips resting on the top of the atty. I switch it out and use a KFL V5 drip tip.

One, last thing ... it vapes mildly warmer than any of my other Kayfuns (the original Lites, V4, V5, V3 mini - I like Kayfuns too). I only vape at 8-10 watts. Many folks who vapor with more power and/or use TC don't 'say' it vapes a bit warmer. But I've heard other also say it's a warm vape. It's a tiny atty so the vape doesn't cool hardly at all by the time it reaches your mouth.
 

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No, all mine are EhPro. Wish I could have got some authentic but out of my price range. The EhPro ones are good so I always wondered if the real thing was even better.

Relax, you're not missing anything except less money in your bank account. I have EhPro Kayfun Lites and the originals. I can not tell the difference in the vape. And if I don't keep track of which mod had an original and which an EhPro I can't tell them apart by looks or quality. Maybe my eyes just aren't keen enough to see the difference. :confused:
 

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    The Aspire Triton Mini I got takes drop-in coils. These other tanks also come in Rose Gold and take drop-ins: Uwell Crown, Uwell Crown Mini, Horizon Tech Falcon, and Aspire Cleito.

    Element Vape even has the Uwell Crown Mini in Rose Gold only, on sale for $14.95. It takes the dual sub-ohm coils described, but also the 1.2ohm single coils.

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    Well,dang.I had O interest in another tank til you posted the mini Crown.I have an original but I find myself liking smaller tanks
     

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    Mike, did you try any of the clone Long Mode tank extensions on your authentic KFL19? I am curious about that considering the difference in price. I have a couple of Svoe's Long Mode kits but I would like backups. I did order an SXK 2ml window section from FT to try on one of my KFL19's. If that works I'll get one of their Long Mode kits to try unless you know already.

    Also thanks for the tip in the 9 month thread on the Zenith D22's. The D22's are right up my alley. I scooped up some of those and replacement coils over the weekend. Until I saw your posts, MikeAdore's and Fran's I didn't even think about "what if I can't build for a period of time".

    I have 2 originals 22mm versions (and 1 24 mm on the way) and and 1 SXK 22mm clone from FT. I got the clone to 'test drive' before springing for the originals.

    The SXK clone is dang near as good as the real deal. Very hard to tell them apart. The main difference is the clone comes with a SS air adjustment screw and the Svoe's come with the new longer (6mm) nylon screw. Supposedly the longer screw stops some minor juice weeping some users have complained about. I get a minuscule amount of juice seepage from the clone. It can buy a package of 3 6mm nylon screws from Svoe vendors for $2-$3 dollars if so desired/needed.

    It's only a 2ml tank capacity so I run all mine with the 'Long Mode' kit for 3 ml of capacity. The other thing is they (Svoe's and clones( come with the PEI yellow tank section. I dislike that color for my tanks so I get the optional clear tank section.

    Oh and the drip tip is very short with a narrow diameter. Tough to put it in your mouth w/o your lips resting on the top of the atty. I switch it out and use a KFL V5 drip tip.

    One, last thing ... it vapes mildly warmer than any of my other Kayfuns (the original Lites, V4, V5, V3 mini - I like Kayfuns too). I only vape at 8-10 watts. Many folks who vapor with more power and/or use TC don't 'say' it vapes a bit warmer. But I've heard other also say it's a warm vape. It's a tiny atty so the vape doesn't cool hardly at all by the time it reaches your mouth.
     

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    Mike, did you try any of the clone Long Mode tank extensions on your authentic KFL19? I am curious about that considering the difference in price. I have a couple of Svoe's Long Mode kits but I would like backups. I did order an SXK 2ml window section from FT to try on one of my KFL19's. If that works I'll get one of their Long Mode kits to try unless you know already.

    Also thanks for the tip in the 9 month thread on the Zenith D22's. The D22's are right up my alley. I scooped up some of those and replacement coils over the weekend. Until I saw your posts, MikeAdore's and Fran's I didn't even think about "what if I can't build for a period of time".

    Shoot ... I just filled up all my atty's so I don't want to dump out the juice to mix and match the long mode kit from clone to original. But, it's encouraging. The following clone accessories fit just fine on an original nKFL/KFL19 whatever it's called.
    • Bell Cap
    • Dome Kit/Cap with chimney extension
    • Top Fill Kit/Cap
    • Replacement 2ml Window section
    So I'd assume the long mode would fit OK too. None of those accessories 'rang my chimes', so they're just in the spares pile.
     

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    No, all mine are EhPro. Wish I could have got some authentic but out of my price range. The EhPro ones are good so I always wondered if the real thing was even better.
    I have a couple authentic KFL's and also the Russian 91% clones and I can't tell the difference at all so I don't think you are missing anything either. I never tried the EHPro's. When those 91%'s went on sale a few years back I grabbed 8. Evcig's still has them in stock for $35 now. IMO it's just as good as the authentic. The Russian 91% v2 RBA by Kebo
     

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    Shoot ... I just filled up all my atty's so I don't want to dump out the juice to mix and match the long mode kit from clone to original. But, it's encouraging. The following clone accessories fit just fine on an original nKFL/KFL19 whatever it's called.
    • Bell Cap
    • Dome Kit/Cap with chimney extension
    • Top Fill Kit/Cap
    • Replacement 2ml Window section
    So I'd assume the long mode would fit OK too. None of those accessories 'rang my chimes', so they're just in the spares pile.
    Good to know. Thank you. Next FT order I'll grab one or two.
     

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    I have a couple authentic KFL's and also the Russian 91% clones and I can't tell the difference at all so I don't think you are missing anything either. I never tried the EHPro's. When those 91%'s went on sale a few years back I grabbed 8. Evcig's still has them in stock for $35 now. IMO it's just as good as the authentic. The Russian 91% v2 RBA by Kebo

    I've got about 1/2 doz of the R91's from back when ECF co-ops were quite active. I liked them better than the KFL-Lites ... to me they were a bit looser draw then the KFL-lites but not airy. I was thinking of passing them on until this new DD (Deeming Deadline) came about. So now, they're in my DSB (Deeming Stash Box).
     

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    We don't know how extreme Deeming will be BUT the whole no sales of anything not PTMA approved could halt everything vape related in May because nothing is approved that I have heard. So I am planning for worst case senerio
    That has interesting ramifications. BT could afford to wait out a dry spell but none of their competitors could. It would mean the death of every B&M store. An interesting way to sweep away all competition.
     

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    Thanks, JC.

    I should buy in celebration of my county expected to have minimal impact from Dorian. What a relief.
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    Looks like a big one all right. It apparently whack the heck out of the Bahamas. No news yet that I’ve seen on Puerto Rico. They still haven’t recovered from last year’s stuff and this won’t be the only storm if history plays out.
     

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    I ordered a couple of rose gold KFL's just a couple of hours ago. Just received a PDF of the packing slip which is something I never got before. I panicked for a moment, the address was in Ontario, CA. I knew Ontario was a province in Canada but I didn't know it was a town in California. That's a pretty fast response time, 2 hours and they have already been picked and packed.
     

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    I ordered a couple of rose gold KFL's just a couple of hours ago. Just received a PDF of the packing slip which is something I never got before. I panicked for a moment, the address was in Ontario, CA. I knew Ontario was a province in Canada but I didn't know it was a town in California. That's a pretty fast response time, 2 hours and they have already been picked and packed.
    Heh. There are repetitive town names all over the world. One of the more famous is Paris, Texas. The rule used to be wherever there was a post office there was a town by definition. Also the standard distance between train stops was seven miles. These two together put large numbers of itsy bitsy towns with one or two digit populations all over the USA.
     

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    That has interesting ramifications. BT could afford to wait out a dry spell but none of their competitors could. It would mean the death of every B&M store. An interesting way to sweep away all competition.
    Anything on the market after 8-8-16 has to be PMTA submitted and approved or it is illegal. The original Deeming had another date, that everything has to be approved, that includes all juices too. Sooooo no one knows what will happen. My attitude is trust no one LOL! Take care of your needs while you can because it could be the end of online sales too.
     

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    We don't know how extreme Deeming will be BUT the whole no sales of anything not PTMA approved could halt everything vape related in May because nothing is approved that I have heard. So I am planning for worst case senerio
    Things don't have to be approved as of May in order to remain on the market, the just have to have an application filed. Of course that application has to be of sufficient quality that the FDA won't reject it out-of-hand, because as soon as the FDA rejects an application, the item in question must be removed from the market.

    The Deeming explicitly grants an additional year on the market while the FDA reviews the application. I've never really understood that because the Tobacco Control Act, which gives the FDA the authority to do any of this, explicitly states that the FDA should complete these reviews within six months.

    Anyway, I think the way this will shake out is that anything that gets a PMTA filed for will be allowed to remain on the market until the FDA either approves or rejects the application. It may take them several years to approve anything at all. I believe they've only ever approved two PMTAs, one for Swedish snus and the other for IQOS, and both of those took considerably longer than one year.

    So the question really is: Who will actually file PMTAs that don't quickly get rejected?
     

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    Heh. There are repetitive town names all over the world. One of the more famous is Paris, Texas. The rule used to be wherever there was a post office there was a town by definition. Also the standard distance between train stops was seven miles. These two together put large numbers of itsy bitsy towns with one or two digit populations all over the USA.

    I used to live in London in a district called Acton. An hours drive south of me now there's a tiny town called Acton which has 7 streets. Five miles further on there's an even smaller town called London. I drove through Acton once.

    Just like you said:

    London is an unincorporated community in Moral Township, Shelby County, in the U.S. state of Indiana.. History. London was platted in 1852 when the railroad was extended to that point. The community took its name from London, the capital of England. A post office was established at London in 1854, and remained in operation until it was discontinued in 1959.

    The weekly news from London in a local newspaper, The Shelby Democrat. (I just had to share)

    Special correspondence of the Democrat.
    LONDON, Jan. 25, 1886
    Frank Mason, of Indianapolis, was visiting our place last week.
    Edward Harrell, our school teacher, is seriously ill with lung fever.
    Mrs. Mollie Graham, who has been sick for quite awhile, is again out with us.
    G. W. House shod a horse complete in fifteen minutes. G. W. is a plum good one.
    D. L. Powers, of Indianapolis, was in our place last week working up the music business.
    Miss Lula Grubbs, a dashing belle of the capital, was visiting her many friends here last week.
    William Coons made a flying trip to Indianapolis last Thursday and laid ina fine lot of groceries. Coons is ever awake.
    Owing to Edward Harrell's illness the schools was conducted by Prof. McBales for some time. Mc Gave general satisfaction.
    Robert Deerman left our burg last week and accepted a position at the capital in a wholesale book and stationery department.
    It is rumored that Dr. Wray will in the spring move to Hartsville and follow his profession. the Doctor will leave quite a number of friends here.
    There were services at the M. E. Church Sunday by the pastor, A. Jameson. He made known the fact that he would hold a protracted meeting here soon.
    I have been unable to find any Democrats in Moral township who are Magill men. They are all opposed to him. My advice to Jimmy is for him not to offer.

    The Shelby Democrat
    February 13, 1897
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    LONDON.
    ---- The corn trade is very brisk here at present.
    ---- G. W. Crum, who has been sick with lung fever, is slowly recovering.
    ---- London is anticipating two weddings. Hurry girls, while your chance is good.
    ---- Mrs. Tighlman Graham, who has been dangerously sick for seven or eight weeks is slowly recovering but is not yet out of danger.
    ---- Mr. Hugh T. Graham is giving his full attention to a Miss Rose. That is right, Hugh, there is nothing like a rose, but look out for the thorns.
    ---- A little child of Mr. and Mrs. C. O. Crum, sixteen months old, accidentally fell into a tub of boiling hot lye, recently, and was so badly scalded before it could be rescued that its life is despaired of
    ---- P. A. Graham, who, it was thought, would be compelled to have his foot amputated is once more going about, and on that same foot. He has had several applications from various establishments to furnish

    The Shelby Democrat
    Thursday, January 25, 1906
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    The roads are in an extremely bad shape.
    John Davis, of near Acton, was in town today.
    John Small made his usual call Sunday evening.
    Harry Harrell was a passenger to Indianapolis Tuesday.
    Dr. O. H. McDonald and Rol Means were passengers to Shelbyville, Tuesday.
    Manuel Mease, after several weeks stay in Edinburg, has returned to his home here.
    Mrs. Willard Means and mother, Mrs. Charles House, called on relatives in Fairland last Friday.
    Mrs. Tony Ashton went to Greenfield Monday to visit her daughter, Mrs. Feaster. Miss Claudine accompanied them.
    Mrs. Carrie Ashton entertained at supper last Friday evening, Miss Stella Small of Shelbyville and Rev. M. S. Brown.
    Mrs. Mayme B. Means and her mother, Mrs. Brant, entertained Rev. H. S. Brown and the Misses Mease ....
     

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    Things don't have to be approved as of May in order to remain on the market, the just have to have an application filed. Of course that application has to be of sufficient quality that the FDA won't reject it out-of-hand, because as soon as the FDA rejects an application, the item in question must be removed from the market.

    The Deeming explicitly grants an additional year on the market while the FDA reviews the application. I've never really understood that because the Tobacco Control Act, which gives the FDA the authority to do any of this, explicitly states that the FDA should complete these reviews within six months.

    Anyway, I think the way this will shake out is that anything that gets a PMTA filed for will be allowed to remain on the market until the FDA either approves or rejects the application. It may take them several years to approve anything at all. I believe they've only ever approved two PMTAs, one for Swedish snus and the other for IQOS, and both of those took considerably longer than one year.

    So the question really is: Who will actually file PMTAs that don't quickly get rejected?
    We really have no idea who has submitted, juice makers? Probably BT vape products have been submitted, but anyone else? Mods, tanks??
     

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