Are you done stocking up?

[fiddleshe]

I think someone's pulling your leg.
They're lithium ion (older ones ar nickel metal hydride), but I don't think they use that form factor. These don't look like 18650's.
Lithium-ion Battery 2017 Prius teardown Video with Professor Kelly
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I can't watch videos but I guess Ill have to trust you.

 

[markfm]

I think someone's pulling your leg.
They're lithium ion (older ones ar nickel metal hydride), but I don't think they use that form factor. These don't look like 18650's.
Lithium-ion Battery 2017 Prius teardown Video with Professor Kelly
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I don't know the Prius, however Tesla has been using Panasonic 18650, with a newer power cell using the 21700: Understanding Tesla's lithium ion batteries

 

[BigPappa]

I just did a tally on my factory coils and I very conservatively have 74+ years worth, divide that between my wife and I and it is 37+ years each. Then I have an additional 1,050 pre-made coils for my RDAs, RTAs, squonkers, etc... along with enough wire to create a decent sized chicken coop or two. Combine that with my 70+ mods and squonkers and 85 tanks, RDAs, RTAs, plus 60 pieces of glass for various tanks. Then the 17.5L of 100mg nic. I think I have enough.

Big Pappa's Vape Shop opens May 2020. Keep an eye out for our grand opening discount code.

 

[Brewdawg1181]

I don't know the Prius, however Tesla has been using Panasonic 18650, with a newer power cell using the 21700: Understanding Tesla's lithium ion batteries

Well, that's interesting, and surprising. I would've thought all that casing mat'l would be a waste.

But yeah, I'm thinking that if some radical new chemistry comes along, they wouldn't necessarily change the form factor on everything, making all the battery pack using industries redesign. I'm just wondering if the mods we buy, and the programmed protections on the boards, would still work correctly, even if an 18650 still fit but had more power. Seems it would, but just have more available power, but I'm no electrical engineer, so....

What made me think of it was that I probably have enough mods, if I include what's on order. But I was thinking of breaking my tightwad habit and springing for a "lifetime" Dani Mini. But it'd pi$$ me off if it was only good for the next 8-10 years.

 

[fiddleshe]

Prius Tesla, same thing. LOL jk

 

[stols001]

No. it wouldn't. Once you received it you would be like "This is the best vape of all time, I I get ten years with it I will be complete.

Plus, it's German made and like, honesty, they might just release an update or something, the Dani is magic.

Well only you can decide.... IDK. If you think 10 years is not enough and you don't think the batteries will be around well,, don't get one I guess.
Anna

 

[NolaMel]

Probably not me. I don't mech much.
I have a Rig V2 & a Coppervape squonk and neither is a side-fire.

You are correct of course . I think I still have mush brain from the Canada trip. It was @TrollDragon who deserves the credit. Or, I can just give a blanket thanks/blame to a bunch of y’all on the Shiny thread . That would cover several months worth of packages

 

[rosesense]

Prius Tesla, same thing. LOL jk

So I can say I am driving a generic Tesla when in reality it is a Cmax hybrid?

 

[fiddleshe]

So I can say I am driving a generic Tesla when in reality it is a Cmax hybrid?

Nothing generic about your Tesla rose! Say it loud and say it proud!

 

[Myrany]

Don't forget how many other things the batterys are used for. Flashlights, laptop battery packs etc. I really don't think we will even see the 18650 fully gone for 20 years or more.

Also if you are working with a mech then the circuit board protections are a non issue. Your knowledge of what is safe is the key. That is not that hard to learn.

This is why I personally made the decision to plan mechs to be my long term solution rather than regulated mods.

 

[BigPappa]

Don't forget how many other things the batterys are used for. Flashlights, laptop battery packs etc. I really don't think we will even see the 18650 fully gone for 20 years or more.

Also if you are working with a mech then the circuit board protections are a non issue. Your knowledge of what is safe is the key. That is not that hard to learn.

This is why I personally made the decision to plan mechs to be my long term solution rather than regulated mods.

20-30 years is a long time though... and there is new tech out there for batteries (charging in like 1 min, much safer chemistry, etc) but I was thinking that even if they did phase them out, someone would most likely come up with an adapter to allow a smaller battery to be used as long as there was a smaller battery available (i.e. something comparable to an 18500 or even an 18350 similar sized battery).

 

[Brewdawg1181]

Don't forget how many other things the batterys are used for. Flashlights, laptop battery packs etc. I really don't think we will even see the 18650 fully gone for 20 years or more.

Also if you are working with a mech then the circuit board protections are a non issue. Your knowledge of what is safe is the key. That is not that hard to learn.

This is why I personally made the decision to plan mechs to be my long term solution rather than regulated mods.

No doubt. Not sure anyone uses them in laptops any more, but power tools make up a pretty large segment of the market. That's why I said this part: "they wouldn't necessarily change the form factor on everything, making all the battery pack using industries redesign."

After all, 18650 just refers to the shape/size. So it seems a new tech would just mean that you might get double, triple, whatever mAh from a battery the same size. And battery makers would just continue making 18650's with much more power, since all the battery packs already accept those. What I was getting at is that I assume that the amount of power available wouldn't affect a mod's ability to use it, but was kind of hoping someone that knows this kind of thing might chime in to reassure us.

 

[fiddleshe]

Your knowledge of what is safe is the key. That is not that hard to learn.

Unless your like me and just cant wrap your head around Ohm's law.

 

[Haktuspit]

I followed that link, thought it said $50 for free shipping.

Their shipping policy says $30 USD but I did add a mod to my order to get to $75 total and all it did was change shipping from $33 to $35. Oh well.

 

[fiddleshe]

No doubt. Not sure anyone uses them in laptops any more, but power tools make up a pretty large segment of the market. That's why I said this part: "they wouldn't necessarily change the form factor on everything, making all the battery pack using industries redesign."

After all, 18650 just refers to the shape/size. So it seems a new tech would just mean that you might get double, triple, whatever mAh from a battery the same size. And battery makers would just continue making 18650's with much more power, since all the battery packs already accept those. What I was getting at is that I assume that the amount of power available wouldn't affect a mod's ability to use it, but was kind of hoping someone that knows this kind of thing might chime in to reassure us.

Yes but... battery packs will get smaller which means smaller cells. No construction worker (insert whoever) wants to carry around anymore than he has to anymore than the rest of us.

 

[markfm]

More mAh (higher capacity) in a given format (size) will cause no harm, if the operating voltage matched current batteries.

What would be a problem is if they changed the cell operating voltage. Vaping batteries are nominal 3.7v, top off at 4.2v fresh off the charger, and regulated mods cut out at typically 3.2v +/-.

Changes in voltage or chemistry would likely require new chargers.

If the cell stays nominal 3.7v, life is good in regulated mods, unless the initial voltage is significantly higher than 4.2 ( I kind of doubt that would happen, a wider voltage variance)

On a mech a change in nominal voltage could be accommodated by building to a different resistance, as long as the base format is the same.

 

[Tig7]

And don't forget some companies like Hohm Tech that started out making mods (Hohm Wrecker) has switched over and only make batteries now mostly for vaping.

 

[Pigs]

I think someone's pulling your leg.
They're lithium ion (older ones are nickel metal hydride), but I don't think they use that form factor. These don't look like 18650's.
Lithium-ion Battery 2017 Prius teardown Video with Professor Kelly
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Tesla's use multiple 18650s in sealed battery packs. They guarantee each battery pack for 8 years.

 

[fiddleshe]

Tesla's use multiple 18650s in sealed battery packs. They guarantee each battery pack for 8 years.

I should order my 18650 from Tesla then.

 

[rosesense]

Well here she is. I like it and I don't usually like dual batt mods. Mine doesn't tip over any more than any other but I have a zlide atty on it. Still sad about the starry night, might have to pay more and pick that one up.

Shouldn't because I just learned that 3 trees fell on my property for sale in Ky and now I have to pay to clean that up at the money pit.