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I agree, Rossum. I have six batteries that I cycle through. My charge rate is "low" and they cool before and after a charge. I my "stocked up" drawer, I have six more all charged to around 4.0 give or take, checked every so often with a multimeter. I have used the same LG batteries for a long time, I have not noticed a degradation of performance. It takes a couple of days to cycle through three and start of the second three.

I am glad to have your thoughts on "age". I have periodically wondered about my "stocked up" drawer batteries. Should I get them all out and use them or not. I have elected not to use them more because I don't want to set up any method that assures they all get used on a regular basis (some might call that lazy, I say contemplative). But the multimeter check shows the discharge rate to be negligible. I had not thought of your idea that to use them all is to leave them all fully charged most of their lives. Makes sense to me.
If they're in "storage", they should be down around 3.6V. 4.0 is certainly better than 4.2, but probably still not ideal.

I do have a pair of unused (except for one test cycle) cells that were put away fully charged and another pair that was put away at 3.6V. I'll check them again test cycle them again this summer to see if what how much difference it makes. In addition, there's two more pairs; one has been the fridge since last summer, and the last pair has been in the freezer (these were all at 3.6V). However, it may take more than one year to see big differences. That's OK, I've developed a good bit of patience as I've gotten older...
 

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I've bought several batteries in the past 3 or 4 months and every single one came with a 3.5V charge. These batteries include...
  • AvatarControls AVB 21700s that came with my Pico 21700 kits
  • LG HG2 bought from Liionwholesale
  • Hohm Tech Hohmgrown 26650 (which were old stock with the old wraps bought on clearance)
Total 15 or 16 batts. All 3 brands were from different vendors.
 

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I've bought several batteries in the past 3 or 4 months and every single one came with a 3.5V charge.
Yeah, they used to come a little higher than that, but transport regulations now demand a lower level of charge. The lower the charge, the less energy they can release if something bad should happen.

FWIW, I've gotten some new cells with as little as 3.45V..
 

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Yeah, they used to come a little higher than that, but transport regulations now demand a lower level of charge. The lower the charge, the less energy they can release if something bad should happen.

FWIW, I've gotten some new cells with as little as 3.45V..


This is why I was looking for a charger that can charge or discharge up to a certain voltage - so I can take batteries, charge or discharge to whatever voltage I want for storage. The only suggestions I got was SkyRC. But I'm not paying $100 for a charger. Call me cheap.
 

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This is why I was looking for a charger that can charge or discharge up to a certain voltage - so I can take batteries, charge or discharge to whatever voltage I want for storage. The only suggestions I got was SkyRC. But I'm not paying $100 for a charger. Call me cheap.
The opus bt-c3100/3400 can do this.
 
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The opus bt-c3100/3400 can do this.

I was told that the Opus couldn't do that which is why I didn't buy it during the last Fasttech sale. :-x

BTW: Can you tell me who makes the Opus BTC-3100 and if they have a website? I cannot find the company to save my life.
 
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I was told that the Opus couldn't do that which is why I didn't buy it during the last Fasttech sale. :-x

BTW: Can you tell me who makes the Opus BTC-3100 and if they have a website? I cannot find the company to save my life.
I don't know who makes it and technically it doesn't have storage mode, it has a hidden switch inside the case that you can set the cutoff at 3.7v

A better option may be the Xtar-vc4s which has storage mode, it tests the capacity of the battery and then charges it to 50%, it's only $30.

XTAR VC4S 4 Bay Li-ion Battery Charger with Colorful LCD Display / Grade Mode / Storage Mode
 

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    Hmm glad we had this topic of batteries. I recently switched in some new ones and they don't charge to their rated capacity either so it makes me question using them so early. Was going to chuck the old ones but on second thought I'll get them to 3.6V and leave them around as backups. They're not even old, like a year or two.
     

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    Okay - Question, if Ya' just ordered 20 new batteries a couple of months ago that are now in your "Stash" - Do Ya' really NEED to get more? :confused:

    OH - @Rossum, how are the frozen batteries doing - I usualy kept/stored C,AA/AAA, etc. batteries in frig crisper . . . Just Sayin' . . . :rolleyes:


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    OH - @Rossum, how are the frozen batteries doing
    Dunno. I need to check my records to see how long they've been in there. I think it will be a year sometime next month. That means it will be time to thaw them out and test them.
     

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    Dunno. I need to check my records to see how long they've been in there. I think it will be a year sometime next month. That means it will be time to thaw them out and test them.


    Please let "US" know, when you do . . . :)


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    Welp, it's past noon on Oklahoma and I haven't received an email from heartland vapes about a Memorial Day sale nor is any discount showing in my loaded cart. So I guess it's safe to say no nic sale this weekend. :(

    I guess there's still time. However they seem to normally activate the sale Friday before noon.
     

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    VapoRider.deals is having a 10% off sale.

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