Are you done stocking up?

[Richard Winter]

Bingo. And there's math involved. I was so happy to retire my online Ohm's Law calculator, constantly checking the resistance of my coils, etc. And the new regulated mods go safely up to 200 watts--should anyone need it. So I really see no purpose for mechs other than the vapocalypse or just as a hobby--and I totally understand people who love their Reos and Caravelas.

Still not doing it though. I'd rather buy more regulated mods and hope they do well in storage. Probably the kind with replaceable batteries, come to think of it. batteries do age.

I do like my mechs as well as regulated.
Thing about mechs is they never break. I'm not a cloud chaser or high wattage user and am happy to build on the mechs to vape around 20w

 

[Myrany]

Well @Uncle is 2, I'm 3 (most are Boge + others, 100+ boxes), and I know of at least 1 other ECF member who has even more. There are people who pop in to ECF every now and then who are still looking for them, too! Have you checked the price of them now? Whoa!

I have maybe 20 boxes tucked away but I also have about 10 Divers/sophias which are rebuildable units for carto tanks.

 

[DavidOck]

I did struggle in the early days of mechs and kicks in building the coil to work with the limitations of the kick. I didnt think kicks were available anymore.

They are a bit hard to find! I'm thinking it's just old stock, since 12 watts as the max doesn't entice many folk. And I think they're no longer made... since there's so little demand for them.

 

[Katya]

Well @Uncle is 2, I'm 3 (most are Boge + others, 100+ boxes), and I know of at least 1 other ECF member who has even more. There are people who pop in to ECF every now and then who are still looking for them, too! Have you checked the price of them now? Whoa!

I still love and use cartos! Just wish I could buy them for my tanks!

All right, made me look. I have 5 boxes of Boge cartos, 2 Ikenvapes (also Boge with Ikenvape's logo on it ), and several boxes of miscellaneous cartomizers, including some dual-coil cartos, see-through cartos, Smok and Truman cartos, Joytech megas, XX large cartos I think from Hoosier E-cig, Smokstick 4081, a box of KR808s from V4L, a few Bloogs from Leaford, and a half-full box of hairy Greencig cartos from Drew from Nhaler.

I may have more--somewhere.

 

[Richard Winter]

They are a bit hard to find! I'm thinking it's just old stock, since 12 watts as the max doesn't entice many folk. And I think they're no longer made... since there's so little demand for them.

12w was low and must admit it was a faff getting extension tubes to house the kick. Used to use one in my old Nemesis. I did end up taking the kick out in the end to play around with different coils.

 

[Debbie Lee]

Our flavor ban in Ca will be voted on this coming Monday. I’m worried of course since V4life won’t be able to send my favorite juices and if I buy on line from them there’s this shipping to ca under fed ex or something like that because USPs won’t bring my items to my front porch. I have to go to the post office to get my ejuice. There a price hike just because they will charge more then because they know we need them. So unfair. But I know V4life won’t even attempt to mail to ca if the flavor ban passes. I’m not going to buy a extractor device for flavors either. So what and how can I vape with my favorite flavors?
I’m hoping someone came up with something some kind of solution since the last time I was on here.

 

[hittman]

Our flavor ban in Ca will be voted on this coming Monday. I’m worried of course since V4life won’t be able to send my favorite juices and if I buy on line from them there’s this shipping to ca under fed ex or something like that because USPs won’t bring my items to my front porch. I have to go to the post office to get my ejuice. There a price hike just because they will charge more then because they know we need them. So unfair. But I know V4life won’t even attempt to mail to ca if the flavor ban passes. I’m not going to buy a extractor device for flavors either. So what and how can I vape with my favorite flavors?
I’m hoping someone came up with something some kind of solution since the last time I was on here.

There are plenty of places to buy flavors to mix your own. Many are stockpiling nic and buying flavors to mix their own liquid. It’s not hard. I use a scale and an online recipe calculator. However it can take some trial and error before coming up with something you like. There are tons of recipes online.

 

[Katya]

I’m hoping someone came up with something some kind of solution since the last time I was on here.

I wish I could. We're all switching to DIY. I'm not sure what you mean by flavor extractor. You can buy ready to use flavoring from places like Bull City Vapors Flavors.

If it makes you feel any better, we're all in the same boat. It's a shame.

 

[JCinFLA]

I’m hoping someone came up with something some kind of solution since the last time I was on here.

Nope, there's been nothing new, or other solution since then that I know of. The same solution that's been recommended to everyone for quite a few years now - DIYing your eliquids - is the way to go. That way, no matter what any city, state, or national government regulations, laws, etc. are passed...you'll still be able to vape.

It's really not hard to do. There have been many people just in the last 6-8 months or so who have started it, and quite a few have been reporting really good success with it. I know 2 people I've taught how to DIY since last November...are thrilled with it. They're making multiple recipes they love, saving a bunch of money, and like many others in the past...they're wishing they'd started it much earlier.

 

[stols001]

I will say lots of folks do wind up enjoying DIY but it can be overwhelming to a newcomer, even with one shots, The solution needs to be leave vaping alone but that's never gonna happen so it truly is DIY or die. I enjoy flavoring...now. But I started a long time ago and it was a bit panic fueled like, "If I don't figure this out now what COULD happen." We have had so many extensions I think it's easy to get panic stricken or for the vape store to NOT say, "You need to DIY.'" Because I think really, it is truly on the way. Winter is coming.

Anna

 

[Rossum]

Politely disagree. You don't have to be clueless to have it happen to you. Just ask @Baditude. He most certainly is not clueless.

If I remember that story correctly, the mod malfunctioned while it was in a pocket in some article of clothing in his locker, and that incident is what set him to becoming "not clueless".

I don't like traditional tube mechs at all due to their potential to become pipe bombs, but my squonkers are a different story; there is simply no way that they can build up pressure from a failing battery.

 

[f1vefour]

Politely disagree. You don't have to be clueless to have it happen to you. Just ask @Baditude. He most certainly is not clueless.

Exactly, I'm far from clueless and used a safe build and battery. A coil in the atomizer can move, an insulator can fail, and 20 other things out of your control can go wrong.

 

[Katya]

If I remember that story correctly, the mod malfunctioned while it was in a pocket in some article of clothing in his locker, and that incident is what set him to becoming "not clueless".

I think it came in contact with some coins in his pocket? Not sure, it was a long time ago. But I vividly remember the pictures he was posting all over the place. Made a big impression on me.

I don't like traditional tube mechs at all due to their potential to become pipe bombs, but my squonkers are a different story; there is simply no way that they can build up pressure from a failing battery.

What about spring failures? I'm not challenging you, just asking. I don't want to use a mech, so it's just educational for me.

 

[sofarsogood]

Our flavor ban in Ca will be voted on this coming Monday. I’m worried of course since V4life won’t be able to send my favorite juices and if I buy on line from them there’s this shipping to ca under fed ex or something like that because USPs won’t bring my items to my front porch. I have to go to the post office to get my ejuice. There a price hike just because they will charge more then because they know we need them. So unfair. But I know V4life won’t even attempt to mail to ca if the flavor ban passes. I’m not going to buy a extractor device for flavors either. So what and how can I vape with my favorite flavors?
I’m hoping someone came up with something some kind of solution since the last time I was on here.

Mixing is easy. The challenge is confidence. Here's a way, may be, to build some confidence. You probably always buy the same percent of pg, vg, and nic so first make a batch of that, no flavoring. There are plenty of apps and calculators to tell you exactly how much of each for a given size batch. Next put a tiny bit of the unflavored mix in an atomizer and take some puffs so you know how it tastes without flavoring. Then take a small, half empty bottle of some premix you ike and dilute it with some of your unflavored pre-mix. Give yourself a day or two to get used to the muted flavor and you might find you like it better than the full strength. Finally, I say don't bother with complicated chef vape recipes that usually fail miserably. Get some all-in-one flavoring and start out with a very low percent, like1 or 2 or 3%. You can always add more but wait until you have a chance to adjust to the new flavor. I never mix stronger than 1% and it tastes fine to me.

 

[hittman]

Also, chefs sells one shots and short fills. On the short fills you just add nic

 

[Katya]

Mixing is easy. The challenge is confidence. Here's a way, may be, to build some confidence. You probably always buy the same percent of pg, vg, and nic so first make a batch of that, no flavoring. There are plenty of apps and calculators to tell you exactly how much of each for a given size batch. Next put a tiny bit of the unflavored mix in an atomizer and take some puffs so you know how it tastes without flavoring. Then take a small, half empty bottle of some premix you ike and dilute it with some of your unflavored pre-mix. Give yourself a day or two to get used to the muted flavor and you might find you like it better than the full strength. Finally, I say don't bother with complicated chef vape recipes that usually fail miserably. Get some all-in-one flavoring and start out with a very low percent, like1 or 2 or 3%. You can always add more but wait until you have a chance to adjust to the new flavor. I never mix stronger than 1% and it tastes fine to me.

I started with Bill's 100 drop method where 1 drop represents ! percent. If you're mixing at, say, 5%, pour 95 drops of your base at the nic strength you like into a 5 ml bottle, then add 1 drop per 1% of flavorings. Shake and put aside. Doesn't get any easier than that.

I learned this method from @Bill's Magic Vapor.
Using Bill's 100DT Taste Test Method | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[Myrany]

I think it came in contact with some coins in his pocket? Not sure, it was a long time ago. But I vividly remember the pictures he was posting all over the place. Made a big impression on me.


What about spring failures? I'm not challenging you, just asking. I don't want to use a mech, so it's just educational for me.

From what I remember about baditudes situation. It was a stuck firing button coupled with a failed safety switch.

If a spring fails in my REO it is the heat spring collapsing to break the circuit. There is not any traditional "Spring" on the firing button. There is also a hard safety that involves turning the button so it physically cannot fire (it is blocked). REO imo is one of the safest mechs.

I own a few tube mechs but they are so far down the totem pole of use order that I will likely never need them. I just do not trust them as much.

My old Silver Bullet is a semi mech. It does have wiring but no chips that I know of. It also runs with a collapsible heat spring. I am fairly comfortable with that one as well.

 

[englishmick]

From what I remember about baditudes situation. It was a stuck firing button coupled with a failed safety switch.

If a spring fails in my REO it is the heat spring collapsing to break the circuit. There is not any traditional "Spring" on the firing button. There is also a hard safety that involves turning the button so it physically cannot fire (it is blocked). REO imo is one of the safest mechs.

I own a few tube mechs but they are so far down the totem pole of use order that I will likely never need them. I just do not trust them as much.

My old Silver Bullet is a semi mech. It does have wiring but no chips that I know of. It also runs with a collapsible heat spring. I am fairly comfortable with that one as well.

I have a Silver Bullet that I've used daily for years. I got it because it was the only one at the time with a side button, don't like bottom buttons. I blew the hot spring once when I absentmindedly stuck on a tank with a flush 510 pin. It's reassuring to know it works. I got a bag full of springs after that.

The first mod I got after Spinners was a Sigelei 20 tube mod. Really long, about the size of an SVD 2. Great mod and it lasted for years but one day it started firing just sitting on my desk. Strangely it had exactly the same hot spring as the SB. It's the only regulated mod I ever saw with a hot spring. The spring collapsed but the battery was trashed. Smoke came out of it but it didn't explode.

I got some Short Stop reusable fuses. Not much point with a hot spring as well, although the Short Stop is supposed to trip fast enough to save the hot spring.

 

[englishmick]

Yes, the Kick puts one back into micro-electronics, but not an integral part of the mod. But a nice way to, in the event all one's regulated mods have died, to still have a regulated (low power, 12 watt max) vape, and at least a partial safety net

Seems Voprider still has some:
Kick Module for Mechanical MOD - N.D.

And I understand that on purchases over $10, FREESHIP gets you free shipping

I have a Kick sitting around somewhere. I got a Kick 2 as well. That goes up to 15W. I tried them out when I got them but there didn't seem to be much point.

 

[Rossum]

What about spring failures? I'm not challenging you, just asking. I don't want to use a mech, so it's just educational for me.

I can't really comment on that in a general way. So much depends on the specific design of the mod. Does the failure result in an Open Circuit? A short? An Auto-Fire? Obviously a short is the worst of these.

But I can tell is that I'm quite comfortable with the squnokers I use. Note however that I don't do really low builds. My most demanding is 0.5 ohms (dual 1.0), and my ADV is a single 0.75.